EMERGENCY HELP PLEASE!!!

EMERGENCY HELP PLEASE!!!

PostBy: rocketjeremy On: Sat Sep 19, 2009 3:53 pm

Ok now I have a problem. I'm at the end of what so far has been a pretty easy upgrade of an EFM520 that was in my house when I bought it 2 years ago. I don't think it was taken very good care of so I've been working this summer/fall to get things done right. I thought ending today with putting in a domestic hot water coil gasket. Well despite starting to WD40 over a week ago and being careful to work the nut back and forth the lower right bolt snapped off. I don't know maybe it was leaking for years before I bolt the place and started to rust it out? WTF do I do now?!?! :cry: Is it something that can be welded? Tapped? Fixed? I'm really praying this simple last afternoon project hasn't totally F'd my boiler.

Thanks in advance to your response to my frantic post. ~Jeremy
rocketjeremy
 
Stoker Coal Boiler: EFM DF-520
Coal Size/Type: Rice
Stove/Furnace Make: EFM
Stove/Furnace Model: DF520

Re: EMERGENCY HELP PLEASE!!!

PostBy: coal berner On: Sat Sep 19, 2009 4:38 pm

rocketjeremy wrote:Ok now I have a problem. I'm at the end of what so far has been a pretty easy upgrade of an EFM520 that was in my house when I bought it 2 years ago. I don't think it was taken very good care of so I've been working this summer/fall to get things done right. I thought ending today with putting in a domestic hot water coil gasket. Well despite starting to WD40 over a week ago and being careful to work the nut back and forth the lower right bolt snapped off. I don't know maybe it was leaking for years before I bolt the place and started to rust it out? WTF do I do now?!?! :cry: Is it something that can be welded? Tapped? Fixed? I'm really praying this simple last afternoon project hasn't totally F'd my boiler.

Thanks in advance to your response to my frantic post. ~Jeremy

Drill the broken stud out re tapping with a 1/2 by 20 replace with a 1/2 x 20 bolt screw it in from the inside out put your gasket on and tighten up the nuts your done
coal berner
 
Stoker Coal Boiler: 1986 Electric Furnace Man 520 DF
Stove/Furnace Make: Electric Furnace Man
Stove/Furnace Model: DF520

Re: EMERGENCY HELP PLEASE!!!

PostBy: stoker-man On: Sat Sep 19, 2009 5:45 pm

I would put a bolt in from the outside. If it starts turning, how would you hold it on the inside?

Maybe a permanent type locktite on the bolt if you go that route, but cars use the outside bolt option all the time, with non-hardening Permatex.
stoker-man
 
Hand Fed Coal Boiler: 1981 efm wcb-24 in use 365 days a year
Coal Size/Type: Anthracite/Chestnut
Other Heating: Hearthstone wood stove

Re: EMERGENCY HELP PLEASE!!!

PostBy: whistlenut On: Sat Sep 19, 2009 8:11 pm

....and put some anti=seize on the threaded portion. Next time you get brave, find a torch and gently heat the nuts, quench them, and carefully remove them one by one.

This is where I bitch about the old design of AA and EFM concerning the hot water coils. Look at the new style and understand what hundreds of guys learned the hard way. NOW, all you have to do is break it off, cut it off or some other simple method to change a gasket, or replace the coil. You, however should be able to drill out the broken stud and replace as chris or coal berner suggested. I have done the inside out method with grade 8 bolts myself, muttering the whole time about what kind of idiot would design a wear item that requires service to be so difficult.

Good luck, and hopefully you won't have to donate too much 'skin' to the project. :D :D :D
whistlenut
 
Stoker Coal Boiler: AA130's,260's, AHS130&260's,EFM900,GJ&VanWert
Hand Fed Coal Boiler: Franks Boiler,Itasca415,NYer130,Van Wert
Hot Air Coal Stoker Furnace: Yellow Flame
Hot Air Coal Stoker Stove: Alaska-4,Keystoker-2,
Hand Fed Coal Stove: Alaska,Gibraltor,Keystone,Vc Vigilant 2
Hand Fed Coal Furnace: Van Wert, NYer's, Ford,Jensen.
Coal Size/Type: Rice,Buck,Pea,Nut&Stove
Other Heating: Oil HWBB

Re: EMERGENCY HELP PLEASE!!!

PostBy: rocketjeremy On: Sat Sep 19, 2009 8:15 pm

Update.....thanks for responding to my panic!! I guess I overreacted a little but I was having a )#%*)@(% I just bought a new boiler moment there. Once I got my head on straight I got a mig welder and some extra hands over here and we welded on a new bolt. Got the coil back in with a new gasket, some new unions for a quick change next time and we're heating up as we speak! Ah the smell of some fresh burning rice coal! That should get me through the night. Thanks to everyone for the advice! Virtual beers for all!
rocketjeremy
 
Stoker Coal Boiler: EFM DF-520
Coal Size/Type: Rice
Stove/Furnace Make: EFM
Stove/Furnace Model: DF520

Re: EMERGENCY HELP PLEASE!!!

PostBy: whistlenut On: Sat Sep 19, 2009 8:17 pm

I just luv a Happy Ending!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! :beer: :drunk: :up: :notworthy: :dancing: :clap: :crutch:
whistlenut
 
Stoker Coal Boiler: AA130's,260's, AHS130&260's,EFM900,GJ&VanWert
Hand Fed Coal Boiler: Franks Boiler,Itasca415,NYer130,Van Wert
Hot Air Coal Stoker Furnace: Yellow Flame
Hot Air Coal Stoker Stove: Alaska-4,Keystoker-2,
Hand Fed Coal Stove: Alaska,Gibraltor,Keystone,Vc Vigilant 2
Hand Fed Coal Furnace: Van Wert, NYer's, Ford,Jensen.
Coal Size/Type: Rice,Buck,Pea,Nut&Stove
Other Heating: Oil HWBB

Re: EMERGENCY HELP PLEASE!!!

PostBy: coal berner On: Sun Sep 20, 2009 7:36 pm

rocketjeremy wrote:Update.....thanks for responding to my panic!! I guess I overreacted a little but I was having a )#%*)@(% I just bought a new boiler moment there. Once I got my head on straight I got a mig welder and some extra hands over here and we welded on a new bolt. Got the coil back in with a new gasket, some new unions for a quick change next time and we're heating up as we speak! Ah the smell of some fresh burning rice coal! That should get me through the night. Thanks to everyone for the advice! Virtual beers for all!

Great should of told you about the welding the bolt in place part sorry forgot :oops:
Glad you got her fixed not as bad as you thought ;)
coal berner
 
Stoker Coal Boiler: 1986 Electric Furnace Man 520 DF
Stove/Furnace Make: Electric Furnace Man
Stove/Furnace Model: DF520

Re: EMERGENCY HELP PLEASE!!!

PostBy: rocketjeremy On: Sun Sep 20, 2009 8:40 pm

No worries coal berner....I was very happy with your quick response! We weren't sure if we could do as nice of a weld job as factory to get a good seal with the gasket. So your plan definitely gave me hope for a plan B!! :D
rocketjeremy
 
Stoker Coal Boiler: EFM DF-520
Coal Size/Type: Rice
Stove/Furnace Make: EFM
Stove/Furnace Model: DF520