Couple questions on a Econo I

Couple questions on a Econo I

PostBy: k9 Bara On: Sun Sep 27, 2009 4:41 pm

First off, In other post I have read on this board. I called Valley Coal and spoke with Karen. She was great, very helpful and knowledgeable to all my questions. Just wanted to say that. I explained to Karen that the reason I looked at getting a LL stove was because of the help that both her and Jerry give on this board. And I wasn't disappointed in calling them.

My questions are again for the Econo I, recently purchased and I'm doing a ground up rebuild.

I hope the pictures are viewable. It appears that the previous owner tried to rig up a quick fix on the feeder adjustment. At the bottom of the control knob is a black plastic piece but nothing was connected to it. There was a short piece of wire coming off it. On the back of the pusher plate is a long button head screw that is bent a couple times. I'm hoping someone can notice what parts I am missing so that I can order them.

My 2nd question is regarding the combustion fan and how it mounts. While removing it, getting everything ready for the sandblaster, I noticed that there wasn't ant gasket to where it was secured/bolted. Picture #32. Is a gasket needed?
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Bottom of feed rate control knob. The wire must of been added by other owner.
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Back of pusher plate.
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Combustion Fan while removing. Need a gasket?
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Stoker Coal Boiler: EFM
Coal Size/Type: Rice Anthricite

Re: Couple questions on a Econo I

PostBy: WNY On: Sun Sep 27, 2009 7:14 pm

Looks like the adjustment knob is not longer functional, the little slip joint/ball joint should hook onto the other end of the stoker plate with another slip joint/ball joint, but I see you just have a long metal rod with a tab hook to it. Not sure what the wire was for, maybe to hold it together.? Yes, you need a shorter pusher rod with the little slider/ball joint.

The combustion blowers dont have gaskets, my Hyfire didn't them either. I think mine only had 3 screws, the one behind the motor is a PITA to get in, especially if you have to change a blower out from the behind the stove if it fails.

If you update to the Coaltrol, the manual adjustment can be unhooked and it turned all the way in for max feed.
WNY
 
Hot Air Coal Stoker Stove: Keystoker 90K, Leisure Line Hyfire I
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Re: Couple questions on a Econo I

PostBy: k9 Bara On: Sun Sep 27, 2009 8:15 pm

Thank you for the reply Sir,

I will order what I need tomorrow. If I keep this stove I will go the the Coal-Trol. I bought it for heating my garage. It might be a learning tool for the rebuild and a re-sell. Thank again for the info. :)
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Stoker Coal Boiler: EFM
Coal Size/Type: Rice Anthricite

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Re: Couple questions on a Econo I

PostBy: WNY On: Mon Sep 28, 2009 8:49 am

Jerry at LL should be able to set you up with what you need. It will work fine as is, just have to reach behind to adjust the feed.

FYI
Clockwise IN is MAX feed, it tightens up the stroke, Counterwise OUT, makes the opening bigger, is slower feed.
WNY
 
Hot Air Coal Stoker Stove: Keystoker 90K, Leisure Line Hyfire I
Coal Size/Type: Rice
Stove/Furnace Make: Keystoker, LL & CoalTrol
Stove/Furnace Model: 90K, Hyfire I, VF3000 Soon

Re: Couple questions on a Econo I

PostBy: k9 Bara On: Fri Oct 02, 2009 9:16 pm

Ty WNY, I did call Jerry. Was a great help, very down to earth. I was impressed to say the least.

Have another question for you knowledgeable folks, In the attached picture I can see how and where the feeder motor makes contact with the shovel (at the yellow line)and pushes it back. But what pulls the shovel forward? Am I missing a part? Gravity? Weight of the coal? I am at the assembly stage (picture 2) but was concerned when watching the feeder work.

Thank you for reading,

George
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Stoker Coal Boiler: EFM
Coal Size/Type: Rice Anthricite

Re: Couple questions on a Econo I

PostBy: Matthaus On: Sat Oct 03, 2009 8:24 am

k9 Bara wrote:snip..In the attached picture I can see how and where the feeder motor makes contact with the shovel (at the yellow line)and pushes it back. But what pulls the shovel forward?


The front side of the opening not shown in the picture should have a lip that the pusher bearing contacts when it rotates forward (forward being toward the fire). This lip will move the shovel forward, the threaded rod makes the opening smaller and larger thus determining how far the shovel moves with each motor revolution.

Glad to see you have joined the ranks of those of us refurbishing coal burning appliances! :D
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Re: Couple questions on a Econo I

PostBy: k9 Bara On: Sat Oct 03, 2009 10:09 am

Wow, Thank you sir. I guess I have all I needs as far as parts, just didnt know the shovel traveled that far. Great illustration, thank for your reply. Yeah, I'm having fun with this project. Only owned it 9 days, but it has been completly torn down, sandblasted, painted and used SS fasteners. I'm putting it together this morning. Hope to have a burning picture later today or tomorrow depending on the piping . Thank you again,

George
k9 Bara
 
Stoker Coal Boiler: EFM
Coal Size/Type: Rice Anthricite

Re: Couple questions on a Econo I

PostBy: WNY On: Sat Oct 03, 2009 3:53 pm

Looks like you know what you are getting into! That's how I learned too! THey are not that complicated , once you tear them apart and put them back together..

Keep up the good work!! :)
WNY
 
Hot Air Coal Stoker Stove: Keystoker 90K, Leisure Line Hyfire I
Coal Size/Type: Rice
Stove/Furnace Make: Keystoker, LL & CoalTrol
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Re: Couple questions on a Econo I

PostBy: k9 Bara On: Sat Oct 03, 2009 6:00 pm

Thanks guys, it's done except a couple pices of pipe and the new baro damper to be put in. :)
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Coal Size/Type: Rice Anthricite

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