new machine

new machine

PostBy: tvb On: Mon Oct 05, 2009 9:31 pm

PC or iMac?

A PC is certainly cheaper but those iMacs sure look nice.
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Re: new machine

PostBy: 009to090 On: Mon Oct 05, 2009 9:35 pm

PC... They are cheaper. Sure, they have alot of updates every month, but the updates are free.
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Re: new machine

PostBy: Richard S. On: Mon Oct 05, 2009 9:39 pm

Well if there is any Mac fans you'll get a lot of grief but I'll point out two things....

You can nearly any type of software you could ever want for free for Windows and certainly have plenty to choose from if you want to pay for it. Not the case with Mac.

The second thing is not only are they more expensive but if it's still the way it used to be also expensive to fix. With a PC you can walk into Best Buy and get anything you need and have a variety of stuff to choose from.
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Re: new machine

PostBy: Freddy On: Tue Oct 06, 2009 6:01 am

I do not own a Mac, never have, but my neighbor got one. He showed me a write up that claims if you include the cost of software to maintain a PC, the Mac is cheaper! Pay me now or pay me later type of thing. He's been happy as heck with it for 6 or 7 months now. His is a laptop, looks like it was built to survive being run over by a Mack truck. (Or a Mac truck?)

I think his Mac has some sort of program so he can use any PC software.
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Re: new machine

PostBy: Richard S. On: Tue Oct 06, 2009 6:52 am

Freddy wrote:if you include the cost of software to maintain a PC, the Mac is cheaper!


Baloney, I'm assuming they are referring to virus/malware protection. The only money I've spent on software in the last 10 years has bee video/image related for some professional programs. Matter of fact most of the best video software applications I use are free like virtualdub. There is no good editor I'm aware so you need to purchase that.
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Re: new machine

PostBy: 009to090 On: Tue Oct 06, 2009 7:58 am

Theres even Free software out there to replace Microsoft Office.... That'll save hundreds of $.
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Re: new machine

PostBy: Poconoeagle On: Tue Oct 06, 2009 8:32 am

I have both. I prefer the pc due to pretty,gimicky,entertaining reasons.
the mac is almost bullet proof. very few problems. its a whole different crowd

My opinion is that if you have been a pc person for a while then stick with it as the different way of doing thing of the mac may make the transition difficult and frustraiting
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Re: new machine

PostBy: kozel On: Tue Oct 06, 2009 8:42 am

I prefer the openness of the PC platform, but you would not get that impression from my license plate. I don't believe that cost of ownership claim either. Microsoft now offers a free security suite that's getting some good reviews.

http://windows.microsoft.com/en-us/wind ... s-download

As far as office replacement software, there are 2 free alternatives, Open Office and IBM's Lotus Symphony. I prefer Open Office.

http://www.openoffice.org/
http://symphony.lotus.com/software/lotu ... e.nsf/home

If you want a Mac and if you have the will to try this, you can try to build your own Mac. I'm curious about this but have not tried it.

http://lifehacker.com/321913/build-a-ha ... -under-800
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Re: new machine

PostBy: Richard S. On: Tue Oct 06, 2009 9:04 am

Poconoeagle wrote:the mac is almost bullet proof. very few problems.


I have a PC here that is 5 years old, it's been on 24/7 since I bought it and the only thing I replaced is a few case fans and the power supply. One reason it has lasted so long is everything was almost top of the line when I bought it. Just like everything else you get what you pay for but it was still a lot cheaper than a comparable Mac.

It's had one virus I'm aware of and that was the result of teenager. Windows is a huge target and many of the people using it are less than adept where technology is concerned. People that write malicious code target what is popular. Linux can claim the same thing as Mac where personal OS's are concerned but there is probably more exploits for software on Linux based servers than anything else. As a matter of fact many of the viruses people pick up on their Windows machine from the web are the direct result of exploited servers running Linux which have the largest market share. ;)
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Re: new machine

PostBy: mr1precision On: Tue Oct 06, 2009 1:35 pm

I've always been under the impression that Mac's are better for art work because there are so many more software options in that area.
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Re: new machine

PostBy: CapeCoaler On: Sat Oct 10, 2009 10:40 am

iMac...

Cons:
Practically sealed unit.
Laptop processor.
Expensive for what you get.

Pros.
Few virus/malware attacks
Very compact.
You'll be cool.

The G5 towers on the other hand
Are very good and very expensive.
The towers are what go in my customers shops when they are involved in graphics or publishing.

Windows based servers for businesses that have the need to run Windows based applications.
Very nice 2003 Server and SQL server built with large fast drives, lots of redundancy and 20TB of hard drive based backup...
For 10k...
Using top of the line parts.

I can still build a Windows based PC that blows away a Mac tower on a price to performance ratio.
You need to see what software is going to be run on the computer and ten decide which platform makes the most sense.
For example some Adobe applications are better developed on Windows 64 bit platform, the Mac version has yet to see 64 bit architecture.
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Re: new machine

PostBy: EasyRay On: Thu Apr 15, 2010 10:40 am

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Re: new machine

PostBy: grumpy On: Thu Apr 15, 2010 4:29 pm

I have my Mac PowerBook G4 for six and a half years now, I travel with it all the time so it gets beat up a lot...It's still going strong... I will never buy another PC again..for many reasons... :)

I would like to add, I used to know a lot about computers back in the old day, Today I know nothing, I don't have to , I turn it on and it works, always, No blue screen of death here..
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Re: new machine

PostBy: matlock On: Thu Apr 15, 2010 8:01 pm

I switched from windows to a mac and i wont go back for many reasons.
there stable and sure they cost more but i think that if you do your home work you will find out that you don't have to fix them as often.
And there are alot of programs out there that are free and I use to use microsoft money and had no problems finding some thing like that in mac os.
Plus if you cant live with out windows you can run both on the same machine.
thats my two cents.
Matt
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Re: new machine

PostBy: grumpy On: Thu Apr 15, 2010 8:34 pm

Yeah with the new Intel chip set you can run both OS so why not get a mac. Once you go Mac you never go back... :D

Some people say they cost more but if you look at what your getting they really don't. Compare a PC with the same drive , CPU, memory ect and your spending just as much..
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