Enviromental Politcs and your fishing rights.

Re: Enviromental Politcs and your fishing rights.

PostBy: Black_And_Blue On: Wed Oct 14, 2009 7:30 am

For the uninitiated :

PREAMBLE

WE, THE PEOPLE OF COLOR, gathered together at this multinational People of Color Environmental Leadership Summit, to begin to build a national and international movement of all peoples of color to fight the destruction and taking of our lands and communities, do hereby re-establish our spiritual interdependence to the sacredness of our Mother Earth; to respect and celebrate each of our cultures, languages and beliefs about the natural world and our roles in healing ourselves; to insure environmental justice; to promote economic alternatives which would contribute to the development of environmentally safe livelihoods; and, to secure our political, economic and cultural liberation that has been denied for over 500 years of colonization and oppression, resulting in the poisoning of our communities and land and the genocide of our peoples, do affirm and adopt these Principles of Environmental Justice:

1) Environmental Justice affirms the sacredness of Mother Earth, ecological unity and the interdependence of all species, and the right to be free from ecological destruction.

2) Environmental Justice demands that public policy be based on mutual respect and justice for all peoples, free from any form of discrimination or bias.

3) Environmental Justice mandates the right to ethical, balanced and responsible uses of land and renewable resources in the interest of a sustainable planet for humans and other living things.

4) Environmental Justice calls for universal protection from nuclear testing, extraction, production and disposal of toxic/hazardous wastes and poisons and nuclear testing that threaten the fundamental right to clean air, land, water, and food.

5) Environmental Justice affirms the fundamental right to political, economic, cultural and environmental self-determination of all peoples.

6) Environmental Justice demands the cessation of the production of all toxins, hazardous wastes, and radioactive materials, and that all past and current producers be held strictly accountable to the people for detoxification and the containment at the point of production.

7) Environmental Justice demands the right to participate as equal partners at every level of decision-making, including needs assessment, planning, implementation, enforcement and evaluation.

8) Environmental Justice affirms the right of all workers to a safe and healthy work environment without being forced to choose between an unsafe livelihood and unemployment. It also affirms the right of those who work at home to be free from environmental hazards.

9) Environmental Justice protects the right of victims of environmental injustice to receive full compensation and reparations for damages as well as quality health care.

10) Environmental Justice considers governmental acts of environmental injustice a violation of international law, the Universal Declaration On Human Rights, and the United Nations Convention on Genocide.

11) Environmental Justice must recognize a special legal and natural relationship of Native Peoples to the U.S. government through treaties, agreements, compacts, and covenants affirming sovereignty and self-determination.

12) Environmental Justice affirms the need for urban and rural ecological policies to clean up and rebuild our cities and rural areas in balance with nature, honoring the cultural integrity of all our communities, and provided fair access for all to the full range of resources.

13) Environmental Justice calls for the strict enforcement of principles of informed consent, and a halt to the testing of experimental reproductive and medical procedures and vaccinations on people of color.

14) Environmental Justice opposes the destructive operations of multi-national corporations.

15) Environmental Justice opposes military occupation, repression and exploitation of lands, peoples and cultures, and other life forms.

16) Environmental Justice calls for the education of present and future generations which emphasizes social and environmental issues, based on our experience and an appreciation of our diverse cultural perspectives.

17) Environmental Justice requires that we, as individuals, make personal and consumer choices to consume as little of Mother Earth's resources and to produce as little waste as possible; and make the conscious decision to challenge and reprioritize our lifestyles to insure the health of the natural world for present and future generations.

http://www.ejnet.org/ej/principles.pdf

BTW they are based in Pennsylvania :idea: http://www.actionpa.org/

They don't like coal fired plants or nuclear technology and know a racist when they see one :

"Nuclear power is an expensive, polluting, dangerous, racist, depletable, and now foreign source of energy. 80-90% of uranium used in the U.S. is imported from Canada, Australia, the former Soviet Union and Africa.1 At the current consumption rate, low-cost uranium reserves will be exhausted in about 50 years."
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Re: Enviromental Politcs and your fishing rights.

PostBy: samhill On: Wed Oct 14, 2009 8:25 am

In the 60s & 70s every car no matter what make or model in & around the Pittsburgh area had spots on the finish, almost exclusevly on the tops or the vehicles, if you were unlucky enough to work at Clairton works or live the river from it in Liberty Boro where almost nothing grew on the hillside your cars metal would actually become perferated in a matter of a few short years. And the problem in Donora is what some say started the enviromental or clean air movement, because these people died from heavy metal posioning due to a combination of things is enviromental politics, whatever the other things as age or general health does not make someone less dead from pollution.
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Re: Enviromental Politcs and your fishing rights.

PostBy: ken On: Wed Oct 14, 2009 11:14 am

When the Cuyahoga river caught fire , I think in the mid 70's. That woke people up to how bad we were polluting our water ways. It was like the start of cleaning things up in the country. Here it is 30 years or so later and walleye are starting to spawn again up the river. Who would of thought that 20 years ago. Sure theres still stuff in the bed of the river , but the fish spawn futher up river. Lake Erie is the cleanest it has been in decades. You can see 10 to 15 feet down. Of course the zebra mussels had alot to do with that. Their catching Northern pike and Largemouth bass now at the west end of the lake. Things sure have turned around since the fire. One other thing that hurt (nice paying jobs) and helped was the steel mills closing or reduced in size.
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Re: Enviromental Politcs and your fishing rights.

PostBy: Black_And_Blue On: Wed Oct 14, 2009 4:43 pm

You can play the game of anecdotal evidence all day long and no one will deny that as citizens we should be good stewards of our environment.

The real questions are why would we submit our sovereignty to a United Nations charter when all local problems can and should be resolved at the local level as outlined by our Constitution. Furthermore, why are the advocates injecting racial injustice into an environmental issue?
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Re: Enviromental Politcs and your fishing rights.

PostBy: tvb On: Wed Oct 14, 2009 7:46 pm

That's one small group - one that most people have probably never heard of; I, for one, never had. Anyone can start an organization, get 501(c)3 status, put together a mission statement, and raise money to keep it going. I wouldn't pay them any attention.

However, historically, most instances of bad environmental practices have taken place in the back yards of those of a lower socio-economic status. Those backyards often belong to black people. The polluters go there because they know that group doesn't have the means and education to fight back unless they get very lucky and an Erin Brockovich comes along.
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Re: Enviromental Politcs and your fishing rights.

PostBy: KLook On: Wed Oct 14, 2009 8:16 pm

That is not true. The poor people come along after to get the jobs that no one else wants. Then they move into neighborhoods that were previousely middle class and trash them because they have no standards and are constantly stirred by activist telling them that they are "oppressed". Then the company leaves because they cannot afford the labor, insurance, taxes, and constant abuse by people acting on the behalf of the oppressed. Then people like you rail at them for cutting and running and taking the jobs overseas. There is no question that environmental abuses occurred. But here where I live it is ludicrous what is being done in the name of "saving the environment". You either have jobs or you do not, don't blame the people that create such opportunities for going where they are not vilified for investing in making something. After all, they could just keep their money in the bank instead of investing it in a risky business venture. Then they would not be putting themselves at risk and not employing anyone to boot. Of course, this is the root of you socialist, you want to take the wealth away from people that have it for whatever reason and redistribute it to the masses. It is the exact opposite of the freemarket capitalist system that we are supposed to be. Someone has to work and make something or there is no value. What are americans going to do to have value in the world?

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Re: Enviromental Politcs and your fishing rights.

PostBy: Berlin On: Wed Oct 14, 2009 8:49 pm

Klook is absolutely right. In most of the nation, poor, primarily minority individuals move into old, "first ward" urban industrial rustbelt cities after/during industry moves out. then the poor, primarily minority indivduals trash, destroy, and pollute the area untill it becomes both worthless and uninhabitable. I live in North Buffalo, NY; in much of the city south of my location, homes can be bought for under $5,000 and often as little as $100. industry didn't shiit in the poor's backyard, the poor minorities shiit in their own backyard after unions, excessive taxes, and unreasonable business and environmental regulation drove industry and business to the point of catastrophic collapse (thank NYState/NYC!) :mad:
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Re: Enviromental Politcs and your fishing rights.

PostBy: SMITTY On: Thu Oct 15, 2009 1:39 am

You just described Worcester MA to a tee. Worcester used to be a nice place to live. There were hundreds of factories churning out world class products. Starting in the 70's with cheaper materials being sold from overseas, one by one the factories went out of business, & the tax base evaporated. .... so in typical Massachusetts fashion, they RAISED taxes to fill the gap, further driving businesses away. Fast forward to today, & Worcester is a shell of it's former self. Abandoned brick factories make the city look like a complete dump when viewed from 290. Anytime a new chain business tries to set up shop, protesters come out in droves, crying about the environment ... which already sucks there anyway! The city is a dumping ground for every liberal social outreach program. Taxes, utilities & trash collection have risen to ridiculous rates for the services received. Roads don't get sanded in the winter making some neighborhoods life threatening to drive through after a storm. The rest of the neighborhoods are life threatening from all the gangs & garbage that moved in as the middle class fled. Take a drive on any road & you will see some of the most ignorant, arrogant drivers on the face of the earth. Roads remain pot-holed, & some unpaved & primitive depending on what part of the city you live in.

I remember being back in MA for 1 hour after spending 2 years out west, driving through Worcester, a woman pulled out in front of me from a McDonalds. I laid on the horn, because I was about 3 inches from putting her rear bumper in her back seat! She turns around (while continuing to drive, mind you) & proceeds to re-enact the scene of the little girl from The Exorcist!!! :lol: :lol: That's exactly what she looked like. Flipping out at me because she did something stupid & almost caused an accident. Just unbelievable. You'll see examples of this several times per day if you spend any length of time there. There's a handful of stable & friendly people there, but most are escapees from a bad mental institutional experiment. I sometimes wonder if that's how Worcester got started ....... an experiment in which subjects were inflicted with mental damage, then made to reproduce, testing to see if they can live life normally in a city. It's a complete hell hole. Don't know how ANYONE could bear living there without climbing a clock tower with an assault rifle!! :roll:

I wonder how many millions of dollars the state has spent cleaning up chemicals from all these 100+ yr old factories?
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Re: Enviromental Politcs and your fishing rights.

PostBy: Black_And_Blue On: Thu Oct 15, 2009 5:40 pm

tvb wrote:That's one small group - one that most people have probably never heard of............


Oh, it's much, much....much bigger than you pretend to NOT know.
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Re: Enviromental Politcs and your fishing rights.

PostBy: samhill On: Thu Oct 15, 2009 6:14 pm

I think what always disturbs me the most out of organizations like this by or for people of color, afro-americans, latinos, hispanics, cowboys, indians & outlaws the list goes on & on are all ok to have but just try to have one group, business or anything envolving caucasions or people generally considered to be of the white color it is considered racist.
The other thing is its not only Ma. or N.Y. but in just about every inner city U.S.A. large or small & the shame of it is most tend to gauge all people of color by the bad we see. Thats why a lot of the so-called black ministers really didn`t want B.O. to win, they have been preaching that the blacks are held down by the white society when its them themselves that are holding the people of color down. Anything to make a buck.
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Re: Enviromental Politcs and your fishing rights.

PostBy: KLook On: Thu Oct 15, 2009 6:47 pm

They are not only making a buck, they are raising a revolution of their own. By including other minorities, even though they think they are superior to them, they are a hugh voting block and are destroying this country. It is as the commies predicted, we will implode because the voting masses will vote for whomever promises to entitle them the most. As in,"tax the rich".

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Re: Enviromental Politcs and your fishing rights.

PostBy: samhill On: Thu Oct 15, 2009 7:11 pm

Don`t you think that the greedy rich are as much to blame as anyone else, as soon as areas start going downhill its the greedy rich slumlords that buy the places up & either fix them to minimum standards or pay off inspectors to get section 8 approval & then rent to the minorities. They are the ones that don`t repair the slums, just make their money & walk away. Theres always a double edged sword, very few of these people that you think allow these places to run down own them. Granted they have absolutely no price or self esteme, most are so ignorant they just listen to someone else that tells them its because of their color that they are living in filth.
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