OBAMA won't meet with FOX NEWS without preconditions

Re: OBAMA won't meet with FOX NEWS without preconditions

PostBy: tvb On: Tue Oct 13, 2009 5:46 pm

Black_And_Blue wrote:
samhill wrote:Don`t do it Mr. President its a trap, now they are saying your afraid to, if you go they will say that you should be in D.C. running the country. No matter what you do its wrong, maybe you should just vacation on your ranch( scratch that "wrong Pres.")on second thought there is no place you can go that won`t be wrong may as well just eat worms.


Or he could multi-task by using the Al Gore invention without having to leave the semen stained Oval Office.


Oh, I'm sure Bush had it cleaned and then proceeded to drool all over it.
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Re: OBAMA won't meet with FOX NEWS without preconditions

PostBy: evilstevie On: Tue Oct 13, 2009 10:37 pm

Kevin H wrote:
SMITTY wrote:It's easy to tell that none of you left leaners watch Fox. Like the video said, it appears nobody can tell the difference between a straight news broadcast, & an OPINION broadcast. Whenever Fox interviews a lib, they give them equal time, as they do a conservative. How is that the mouthpiece of the Republican party? Straight news during the day, opinion at night.

Facts are facts -- Fox is the most popular news outlet among all political leanings. You don't get that following by lying.


Yes, you get that popular by telling people what they want to hear; Nothing is our fault, it's the gays and the immigrants. Bush made this country safer, and we're doing a noble thing in the Middle East. Government programs are a bad thing, even if they people's lives better. Big business is your friend. Global warming is just a "Theory." Being born American is an accomplishment. The answer to a recession is to cut taxes... Really? And as the Reagan cheerleaders will tell you: DEFICITS DON'T MATTER. Wow. Sure blew the snot out of that argument in the last few years haven't we?

It's the same way the Republicans get millions of Americans to vote against they're own self interests in every election. Being popular does not make it real news. It's Rupert Murdock's bullhorn, nothing less and nothing more.


That about hits the nail on the head as far as Fox goes. People generally like to have something to point at and blame, and Fox "news" provides a great avenue for that. I find it kind of comical that we just got through an election in which the D's not only won the white house, but BOTH the house and senate, and yet some people point to fox news' ratings as some sort of sign that the country is going in a completely different direciton. The fact of the matter is that 1) People with brains don't sit around the tube rooting for their favorite channel like 14 year olds at a high school football game (but Fox newsers do), and 2) since ABC, NBC, CBS, PBS, CNN, MSNBC, BBC......to infinity are all "liberal", then all the "liberals" (who are actually mostly moderates) are going to be split up between all of those channels. The nuts flock to fox, while the other 85% of the country is distributed between all the other channels. See the past election results if any of you doubt this theory. It's a great business strategy, I'll give Murdock credit for being able to line his pockets off of the fear and insecurity of that slice of the population.
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Re: OBAMA won't meet with FOX NEWS without preconditions

PostBy: SMITTY On: Tue Oct 13, 2009 10:42 pm

If you think I or any of us conservatives are fearful or insecure, I have a health plan I'd like to sell you! :lol: :lol: :lol:
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Re: OBAMA won't meet with FOX NEWS without preconditions

PostBy: coalkirk On: Tue Oct 13, 2009 11:12 pm

evilstevie wrote:The nuts flock to fox, while the other 85% of the country is distributed between all the other channels.


Think you better check the ratings. :roll:
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Re: OBAMA won't meet with FOX NEWS without preconditions

PostBy: ErikLaurence On: Tue Oct 13, 2009 11:35 pm

coalkirk wrote:
evilstevie wrote:The nuts flock to fox, while the other 85% of the country is distributed between all the other channels.


Think you better check the ratings. :roll:



Actually 95% of Americans don't watch cable news at all. Of the 2% who do watch cable news it splits between fox and the other cable new networks.

http://tvbythenumbers.com/2009/10/13/ca ... more-30375

Of course broadcast news (ABC, CBS, and NBC) are not included
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Re: OBAMA won't meet with FOX NEWS without preconditions

PostBy: coalkirk On: Wed Oct 14, 2009 6:08 am

ErikLaurence wrote:
coalkirk wrote:
evilstevie wrote:The nuts flock to fox, while the other 85% of the country is distributed between all the other channels.


Think you better check the ratings. :roll:



Actually 95% of Americans don't watch cable news at all. Of the 2% who do watch cable news it splits between fox and the other cable new networks.

http://tvbythenumbers.com/2009/10/13/ca ... more-30375

Of course broadcast news (ABC, CBS, and NBC) are not included


Well that would be one way to say it. Another would be more people watch Fox than all of the other cable news outlets combined.
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Re: OBAMA won't meet with FOX NEWS without preconditions

PostBy: Kevin H On: Wed Oct 14, 2009 7:26 am

Why all this discussion of who watches what cable news programs? What does that have to do with anything? We're discussing whether or not O will appear and why he should or should not, and all I keep hearing is "Fox is the most watched..." Who cares?

Look, if there was a network called "Burning coal is destroying the earth" network, would any of you want to appear on it? Before you get all gung-ho and tell us how "Oh yeah I'd love to straighten them out!," remember that you'd be behind enemy lines, you'd be cut off constantly, everything you said would be taken out of context. FOR EXAMPLE, the mod might say "So you admit burning coal emits sulfur." (you'd look stupid to deny it, it's a well-known fact). You'd say "Yes, but..." and be cut off with "So even though YOU ADMIT that burning coal emits sulfur, you still burn it! You hate the earth!" So the audience watching who hated you to begin with can now run to all his other coal-hating friends and say "Oh yeah he admitted that coal emits sulfur, but he doesn't care, he burns it anyway."

This overly-simplistic exhaggeration shows EXACTLY what would happen to O if he appeared. Absolutely nothing he said could possibly be correct, and the audience who by in large hates the man to begin with (due to the faulty information they've been force-fed) would use all the skewed information to hate him even more. Much in the way this is squawked across every conservative outlet, that since O won't appear he must be afraid or have something to hide, and all the conservatives flock to the bird bath and drink the kool-aid. Sillyness.
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Re: OBAMA won't meet with FOX NEWS without preconditions

PostBy: coalkirk On: Wed Oct 14, 2009 7:43 am

Kevin H wrote:Why all this discussion of who watches what cable news programs? What does that have to do with anything? We're discussing whether or not O will appear and why he should or should not, and all I keep hearing is "Fox is the most watched..." Who cares?


Maybe it's just me but I think it's relevant to point out the the Pres. won't appear on Fox which happens to be the most watched by far cable news show. I don't have the time now to look for the stats as I have to go to work but I'm pretty sure it's also well ahead of the networks in viewership also. Put that in your kool aid glass and drink it. :wine: ;)
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Re: OBAMA won't meet with FOX NEWS without preconditions

PostBy: Black_And_Blue On: Wed Oct 14, 2009 7:56 am

Kevin :

It's the job of the media to question and keep the government in check, our Republic form of government demands it.
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Re: OBAMA won't meet with FOX NEWS without preconditions

PostBy: stockingfull On: Wed Oct 14, 2009 8:05 am

Notice, Kevin, that neither of the above posts responds to the substance of your point that it's stupid to allow yourself to be interviewed by an organization you have concluded has decided simply to oppose and try to ambush you.

In fact, you could ask my old friend, former Gov. Bob Ehrlich of MD, a Republican, who refused to give interviews as Governor to, IIRC, the Baltimore Sun, on exactly the same grounds.
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Re: OBAMA won't meet with FOX NEWS without preconditions

PostBy: samhill On: Wed Oct 14, 2009 8:10 am

The foxtrotters know that the Pres. would be considered wrong if he was even allowed to fully answer a question so they just change the subject as to how popular fox is. Thats exactly how fox conducts its reporting.
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Re: OBAMA won't meet with FOX NEWS without preconditions

PostBy: Black_And_Blue On: Wed Oct 14, 2009 8:55 am

A savvy person would pick up the phone and call direct :

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Re: OBAMA won't meet with FOX NEWS without preconditions

PostBy: Kevin H On: Wed Oct 14, 2009 9:09 am

I think I actually got dumber watching that dimwit for 3 minutes.

Incidentally, Chris Wallace is not "fair" either, he's as neocon as the next guy. Remember his treatment of Congressman Paul in the primaries??

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kHLnP8VuoV4

"Are you suggesting we take our marching orders from Al Qaeda?" That is word twisting, ad homonym, appealing to the emotions of the audience rather than their reason: The sole armaments of the modern little-r republican party. Appalling behaviour for someone who calls themselves a reporter.
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Re: OBAMA won't meet with FOX NEWS without preconditions

PostBy: stockingfull On: Wed Oct 14, 2009 9:15 am

Wanna know why Fox isn't pushing it's perceived 4th Estate "rights" in court, on 1st Amendment grounds?

Because a Republican Governor has already won an appeal for taking a position identical to the President's.


http://www.dailypress.com/news/national/bal-md.circuit16feb16,0,1957030.story
This link is broken, either the page no longer exists or there is some other issue like a typo.


:oops2:
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Re: OBAMA won't meet with FOX NEWS without preconditions

PostBy: coalkirk On: Wed Oct 14, 2009 11:51 am

stockingfull wrote:For me, while I'm glad to see that political discussion didn't cease here with Devil's exile and my summer break, I don't plan to engage in it here this season. My reasons are above.


Jeez it's great to have you back! :D Especially with that new commitment not to engage in the political discussion this season. If I recall, that commitment lasted about 3 minutes in the "Rush" thread. That's ok. I didn't believe it when I read it anyway.

stockingfull wrote:Notice, Kevin, that neither of the above posts responds to the substance of your point that it's stupid to allow yourself to be interviewed by an organization you have concluded has decided simply to oppose and try to ambush you.
In fact, you could ask my old friend, former Gov. Bob Ehrlich of MD, a Republican, who refused to give interviews as Governor to, IIRC, the Baltimore Sun, on exactly the same grounds.


I live in Maryland and subscribe to the Baltimore Sun. Even though it's a blatantly biased hack paper, I read it daily as it is pretty much the only game in town. Plus I need the newsaper to put on the table when we are eating steamed crabs. The Sun editorial board hated the fact that a Republican got elected gov and it wouldn't have mattered if it was mother theresa, they would have set upon her and tried to destroy her. They constantly lambsted everything Ehrlich did. When Ehrlich proposed slots as a tool to help with Md's financial, you would have thought he proposed prostituting 12 year old school girls. Now that the boy wonder O'malley is in office(a dem of course) and he has proposed slots, why it's as if he has found a cure for cancer.
By the way the Sun is so small now, that it takes a weeks worth of newspapers to actually eat crabs.
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