superior red ash vs blaschak white ash

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superior red ash vs blaschak white ash

PostBy: sharkman8810 On: Tue Oct 13, 2009 9:59 pm

I'm trying to figure out the differences in burn characteristics of the two brands, to decide which i should get for the winter. So far the superior is what i just started up with yesterday, and it was easy to get started, and seems plenty hot, but seems to be more sulphery smelling, and more explosive gasses than i remember blaschak having. Anyone else have similar observations? Opinions on which burns hotter longer, easiest fire to run, or just outright better? I realize neither is generally considered a bad choice from my research and experience, and realistically i could probably make do with either, but opinions and discussion and experience is welcome. I am burning a hitzer 82 u.l. and will use nut, and maybe a little stove for fun (they have superior red ash only in this size). The blaschak is $215 a ton and superior is $205 a ton in 3 ton quantities delivered.
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Hand Fed Coal Stove: hitzer 82 ul
Coal Size/Type: nut
Stove/Furnace Make: hitzer
Stove/Furnace Model: 82 u.l.

Re: superior red ash vs blaschak white ash

PostBy: the snowman On: Tue Oct 13, 2009 10:08 pm

Congratulations on being able to get your hands on superior coal. I do not have that ability up here in northern ny. I would love to have three or four tons of superior especially at $205 a ton. Thinking of taking a trip down to PA next summer to get some just do not know if they sell to out of state individuals and I have to find out if I have to carry insurance on my trailer when traveling to PA. In ny one does not have to carry insurance just have it inspected every year. Keep us posted as to your findings. I am interested in what coal seems to burn better.

the snowman.
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Hand Fed Coal Stove: Jotul 507
Coal Size/Type: Nut, Stove coal, Egg coal

Re: superior red ash vs blaschak white ash

PostBy: traderfjp On: Wed Oct 14, 2009 12:09 am

If my memory serves me red ash coal burns hotter and has less ash.
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Re: superior red ash vs blaschak white ash

PostBy: coal berner On: Wed Oct 14, 2009 3:16 pm

Red ash will have more btu's per lb then white ash but most red ash coal will have more ash content then white ash coal
Red will also clincker more when there is to much air going threw it then white ash coal Red ash has a higher iron content then white ash . Being both of the coal that you have will have both white ash and red ash coal mixed in it will be
close on ash content bt the btu's will be higher with Superior coal 13.600 to 13.800 Per lb. with 12.4 to 14.0 % ash
content. Blaschak coal will be 13.100 13.200 BTU's Per lb with a ash content of 10 to 12.5% ash content sometimes more depending on there mix of coal .
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Stoker Coal Boiler: 1986 Electric Furnace Man 520 DF
Stove/Furnace Make: Electric Furnace Man
Stove/Furnace Model: DF520

Re: superior red ash vs blaschak white ash

PostBy: Freddy On: Wed Oct 14, 2009 3:31 pm

I burn Superior...red ash...my buddy burns Kimmel...white ash. We make just about the same volume of ash, but his is fluffy, mine is crunchy and my ash weighs a lot more per pan full.
Freddy
 
Stoker Coal Boiler: Axeman Anderson 130 (pea)
Hot Air Coal Stoker Stove: Reading piece o' junk in the barn (rice)
Coal Size/Type: Pea size, Superior, deep mined

Re: superior red ash vs blaschak white ash

PostBy: coal berner On: Wed Oct 14, 2009 3:42 pm

Freddy wrote:I burn Superior...red ash...my buddy burns Kimmel...white ash. We make just about the same volume of ash, but his is fluffy, mine is crunchy and my ash weighs a lot more per pan full.

First the veins that Superior mine are high in iron content that is why your ash is crunchy and will clinker more with to much air going threw it . Kimmel are in different veins of coal and they buy coal from other sources there coal is not always white ash coal it will be a mix of both .
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Stoker Coal Boiler: 1986 Electric Furnace Man 520 DF
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Stove/Furnace Model: DF520

Re: superior red ash vs blaschak white ash

PostBy: traderfjp On: Wed Oct 14, 2009 6:51 pm

I have Kimmels from 2 years ago and it's red ash so you never know what you might get. That said I'm very happy.
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Stove/Furnace Make: Alaska
Stove/Furnace Model: Channing 3

Re: superior red ash vs blaschak white ash

PostBy: Paulie On: Thu Oct 15, 2009 3:17 am

It is a crap shoot on bagged coal. Could be anything.
Paulie
 
Stove/Furnace Make: leisure Line
Stove/Furnace Model: Pioneer

Re: superior red ash vs blaschak white ash

PostBy: traderfjp On: Thu Oct 15, 2009 6:58 am

Hey Paulie - did u sell your 2 truck loads? Sell any stoves?
traderfjp
 
Stove/Furnace Make: Alaska
Stove/Furnace Model: Channing 3

Re: superior red ash vs blaschak white ash

PostBy: Paulie On: Thu Oct 15, 2009 8:25 am

Sold the coal, re-loaded for this season. Holding off on selling stoves until my "show room" is finished. Too much going
on this summer to complete it the way I wanted. Will finish this winter. :D
Paulie
 
Stove/Furnace Make: leisure Line
Stove/Furnace Model: Pioneer

Re: superior red ash vs blaschak white ash

PostBy: sharkman8810 On: Mon Oct 19, 2009 7:46 pm

Update
I just finished burning all the superior red ash nut i had. It is good coal, not alot of ash, and it is the crunchy kind and doesnt seem as dusty as white ash, and it is a good heat producer. I think i am going to go with this as opposed to the blaschak white ash. I am going to burn up the blashchak next and then report my findings. I did burn alot of the blaschak last year and i don't think it is necessarily worth the extra $$.
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Hand Fed Coal Stove: hitzer 82 ul
Coal Size/Type: nut
Stove/Furnace Make: hitzer
Stove/Furnace Model: 82 u.l.

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