1 ton coal bags

1 ton coal bags

PostBy: Mike Wilson On: Sat Oct 17, 2009 8:05 am

Does anyone use, have photos of, dimensions for, or experience with "1 ton" coal bags? My dealer says they have them available, but I don't have a good description of them, what they look like, or how much space each one will take up. If there's anyone with experience, or a camera, I'd appreciate it. Building a bin next season, just trying to be somewhat efficient this year (and not have 50,000 empty bags to throw out).
(didn't know where to post this, this forum says Coal Bins, so I guess it's at least partially in the correct spot!)

Thanks,
MW
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Re: 1 ton coal bags

PostBy: WNY On: Sat Oct 17, 2009 8:10 am

one ton takes up about 40 cubic feet. So approx. 4ft x 4ft x 2-3ft high would be around a ton.

here;s one someone is using
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Re: 1 ton coal bags

PostBy: envisage On: Sat Oct 17, 2009 8:28 am

Here is what they look like! :-)
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Re: 1 ton coal bags

PostBy: k9 Bara On: Sat Oct 17, 2009 9:02 am

Sorry to jump on your thread, but how much are the bags and where can you get them? Online?

** I found some online, $15.00 is that bad?

Thank you for the question Mike, I might have to try these in the shop. ;)
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Re: 1 ton coal bags

PostBy: Scotttique On: Fri Oct 23, 2009 11:51 am

Where did you find them online? Does the bag truly hold 1 ton? i.e. I am going to have 5 tons delivered with a truck with a chute here in Baltimore, will 5 bags on pallets be enough or do I need more bags than that? This seems like a great solution for not having a coal bin. I can keep the filled bags covered outside and just use a pallet jack to move one bag at a time into my garage. Very excited about this, as I have always purchased my coal in 50lb bags, but by doing it this way I can save almost $400

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Re: 1 ton coal bags

PostBy: gitrdonecoal On: Sat Oct 24, 2009 1:55 pm

maybe if people are interested in bags like these, find a cash crop farmer that plant wheat, barely, or some kind of grain like that. i knor there is a farmer near me that uses such bags for the seed. the loops that are in that pic can slide into pallet forks on a forklift for easy transport
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Re: 1 ton coal bags

PostBy: cag310 On: Tue Oct 27, 2009 9:06 am

wow wish I saw this thread last night...just posted in the coal bin pics sticky thread...That is the cheapest site I found with them. ULINE.com wanted $50/bag! If you want to search for them online, search for "FIBC"..I think I might try and make a small pallet sized cart or 2 or just use my cherry picker to move these around in my shop..planning on buying 3 today..
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Re: 1 ton coal bags

PostBy: Scotttique On: Tue Oct 27, 2009 6:26 pm

I just got the bags in the mail from the above link at onetonbags.com Unfortunately (and I didn't notice this) they are only 3x3x3 ft which is 27 cu ft. From what I've found on this site, 1 ton of nut is approximately 40 cu ft. The bags were only $15 and the only larger ones I have found are much more expensive...

If anyone knows of a place to get 5x5x5 or 4x4x4 bags let me know.
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Re: 1 ton coal bags

PostBy: Stephen in Soky On: Wed Oct 28, 2009 11:56 am

In addition to farmers who purchase seed as mentioned above, these are routinely used for feed & grain at the feed mills these days. You might try your local feed mills, not TSC/Farm & Fleet type stores, but actual feed mills.
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Re: 1 ton coal bags

PostBy: Scottscoaled On: Wed Oct 28, 2009 8:14 pm

I have bags that are 3x3x4' tall. They hold almost a ton and have a flap closure on top. I think that they would have held a ton. I didn't fill them full because I was worried one would break and make a mess. I have ten for ten apeice. :)
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Re: 1 ton coal bags

PostBy: whistlenut On: Wed Oct 28, 2009 10:00 pm

Aren't those called "Blivit Bags"? That, by definition is 4000 lbs in a 2000 pound bag.
Some folks say it's 10 lbs in a 5 lb bag. What is a Stroker Stoker doing with these bad boys anyway?
There are several ads on the page bottoms about big bags, and bagging supplies.
I've heard of a "two Bagger", even seen a few, but 2000 lbs in a soft sided bag is extraordinary!
I might have known Stroker would be right in the middle of this. I hear that he has an 'A-dust Combine' running over in the Conn River Valley. The Stoker 'A-dust Hot Air Balloon' was spotted over near Bellow Falls this past weekend, seemingly quite far off course from the Lake George Area. Need some electronic controls on that bad boy don't ewe? Did anyone see the 'A-dust Shriner Mini Cars from Albany'? Little 50 lb Steam fired boilers...and a cute little whistle on them too!

I heard there is an 'A-Dust' powered fishing boat over near Provincetown called 'Thar She Blows'. Is Barney the Skipper on that Minnow? What about the 'New A-Dust Turbo H 1 Hummer'? Snorkel equipped to go down on everything but the Titanic!
Penski hasn't got a thing on Stroker Boy!

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Re: 1 ton coal bags

PostBy: Scottscoaled On: Wed Oct 28, 2009 10:51 pm

Damn Doug! Do you grow your own or buy out of state :lol: :lol: By the way, everyone knows that you couldn't possibly fire up a ballon in this misereable weather. At least not without letting your kid fly off in it. And how did you find out about the Hummer? That was a freakin secret. :)
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Re: 1 ton coal bags

PostBy: cf1 On: Wed Oct 28, 2009 11:51 pm

there is also what they call a pallet box its 48x48 x4 very heavy cardboard that they use to transport magnisium in..
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Re: 1 ton coal bags

PostBy: Mike Wilson On: Thu Oct 29, 2009 7:51 am

Well, thanks for all the replies and info. I think I am going to go with 3 one ton bags this year, instead of 150 forty pound bags. I'll save 30 bucks a ton by doing this, including the purchase of the bags, which I can use next year. Have to see where they will go, but I'll figure something out.

One concern... the bags will be outside. Assuming they're covered, and the coal is not soaking wet all winter long (likely won't be), will this stuff freeze together at all? If so, will a nice 8lb sledge resolve the problem?

Thanks,
Mike
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Re: 1 ton coal bags

PostBy: 009to090 On: Thu Oct 29, 2009 9:18 am

Mike Wilson wrote:One concern... the bags will be outside. Assuming they're covered, and the coal is not soaking wet all winter long (likely won't be), will this stuff freeze together at all? If so, will a nice 8lb sledge resolve the problem?
Thanks, Mike

Hi Mike, You may want to cover the bags with a tarp, if you store them outside, that'll keep out excess water. The water in the coal when you got it, will probably drain out thru the bottom of those bads, a good thing. Yes, any frozen lumps of DAMP coal will EASILY break apart, sometimes just squeezing them with your hand breaks them apart. If the coal is WET, SOAKING WET, you'll never be able to break it apart, as it will be as hard as a block of ice.
My main concern with storing those bags outside is, Rodents. If you live in an area similar to my area (Woods, farms, fields) then expect those bags to be chewed apart by mice, rats, squirrels, etc..... :shock:
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