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Post by Coal_Trickle » Wed. Oct. 21, 2009 2:13 pm

Burning Reading Nut. Don't think I could burn pea in this unit.

I checked and the rear yoke was backwards that might help a little but I really think ( Hope ) my problem was swinging the greats wide open left to right and letting unburned coal lock me up.

Well wont be firing it up till at least the weakened the temp hit 70 here in jersey today :o

 
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Post by Coal_Trickle » Wed. Oct. 21, 2009 2:14 pm

New Hope Engineer wrote:
Wood'nCoal wrote:Not if he has a clinker like the one I posted the photo of. That was as hard as a rock and would not break. I hit it with a hammer and it didn't break. I should have saved them, that was before I knew you. It was the load of coal from Fairclough that I keep talking about. My Harman can grind up hard clinkers too, but you are right, the Gibraltar grates are heavy as hell.
you should see the size of the clinkers I pulled out of the choo choo this past weekend!3ft x 3ft! I had to break them in half to get them through the fire door. :mad:
3 foot Clinker! :shock: LMAO

 
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Post by coal berner » Wed. Oct. 21, 2009 2:26 pm

captcaper wrote:I'm not a fan of Combo Wood/Coal burners but he should try pokeing bottom and top and see if the ash falls down anyway...Ash is like powder and will fall thru tight spaces as we know.
But this isn't addressing the jams.
I've been burning Pea and love the fact I can shake and shake and don't worry about jams in my Harmon. I am going to try burning it all winter as long as it gives me my heat and burn time.. Easy to Poke,Shake,Shovel,Pack..
Will the stove take Pea ? or mix nut and pea together. Got to have good draft for Pea though.
Good idea to let the fire go out and check for clinkers like mentioned above..lf so let the fire go out and clean it out and start fresh every week or so until you try different coal.
Not a Fan of combo Wood/Coal stove what do you think your Harman Mark series started out as the one your using right now All of these Sq box stoves started out as a wood stove as well as the early round stoves wood burning as been around a lot longer then coal burning .The first Harman stoves where The D/F and Hero Heath stoves both had over the fire ar knobs on the door so you could burn wood in them better Not Just the underfire air knobs or sliding vents on the ash door that was there for coal burning along with shaker grates for coal burning . The SF stove is a bigger version of the smaller DF series The Hero model was the base line of the Mark I series stove today . All Dane did was take the door air knobs off and put a window in the Mark series.

The Hero had a soild cast door with air knobs on it no window same size as the Mark I The DF model was a smaller version of the SF model air knobs on the loading door and the ash door the early model DF did not have a Glass window
soild door later models had a little window like the SF stove . DF still had the humpback design but did not have the heat exchanger tubs in the front like the SF they had air vent under the front lip on the top of stove where the heated air came out like on the Mark series do. The Hero was the same design as the mark I series flat top .

The Gibraltar stoves a coal burning stove only Read the manual below bottom of cover page as well as bottom of second page. But you can burn wood in them but not as well as a stove with overfire air vents / knobs They do not have overfire air knobs or vents. Extremely heavy shaker grates ash door air vents for underfire air for coal burning removable coal banking bar inside front adjustable baffel plate double wall construction. On The MCC.W/Fan LCC.Natural Convection or fan SCC.W/fan DDS. Radiant & Natural Converction or Fan DDI insert. W/Fan CFI insert W/fan . Model Stoker LR.W/fan The CFS. SCR. Radiant Stoves are single wall constrction. Bottom line they are a coal burning stove first Wood burner stove second The first early model Gibraltar stoves started out as wood burning stove Just like all Box stoves designs
then where converted or adapted to burn coal.
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Post by coal berner » Wed. Oct. 21, 2009 2:47 pm

Coal_Trickle wrote:Burning Reading Nut. Don't think I could burn pea in this unit.

I checked and the rear yoke was backwards that might help a little but I really think ( Hope ) my problem was swinging the greats wide open left to right and letting unburned coal lock me up.

Well wont be firing it up till at least the weakened the temp hit 70 here in jersey today :o
You can burn Pea ChestNut or Stove size in these stoves Just like most other Hand fed coal stoves
Get a few bags and try it Most Nut coal has Pea mixed in with it called Range coal why that is one way the breakers get rid of there pea coal Pea is not a big seller and when they break coal up that happends to be the size they get the most
Also try Stove get a few bags keep it for them really cold nights it will warm you up quick burns faster but throws more
heat like Nut does to Pea coal or you can mix and match sizes If you want a low slow burn use Pea need more heat use
Nut need even more heat quick use Stove size . You can start out with a Nut fire and if it gets to hot then throw some Pea on it will slow the burn down and cool the fire Lots of coal burners will start out with Pea in between Fall & winter then switch over to Nut & stove for the cold winter months Play around with it get use to the stove have Fun with it like I said before Once you learn what your stove like stick to it everyone had to go threw the learning curve on burning coal at one time .But there are some that Just was born into it had it in there bloodline ;) Have Fun Keep it stoke stay warm .

 
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Post by Coal_Trickle » Wed. Oct. 21, 2009 5:29 pm

So much great information thanks again

I think I pight pick up a few backs of pea this week.

 
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Post by CoalHeat » Wed. Oct. 21, 2009 7:13 pm

Burning Reading Nut. Don't think I could burn pea in this unit.
Buying it from Ritter's? They have an old Alaska stoker in the office.

JC is right, as usual, you can burn pea in that stove. You shouldn't have problems with those big, hard clinkers with Reading, as others said make sure the grates are installed correctly and don't shake down too much. Once you see burning coal start to fall into the ash pan-that's enough. If you see any dark areas in the glow from beneath the grates poke up through the grates as described. Coal burning in a hand-fed is something you learn, I went through it, so will you. Once you learn, it's easy.


 
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Post by captcaper » Thu. Oct. 22, 2009 8:17 am

My Harman may have started out a wood burner but it isn't now...It's Definitely a dedicated coal stove..

 
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Post by coal berner » Thu. Oct. 22, 2009 1:40 pm

captcaper wrote:My Harman may have started out a wood burner but it isn't now...It's Definitely a dedicated coal stove..
Yes aswell as the Gibraltar stove's are dedicated coal stove not a wood / coal combo stove .

 
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Post by dtzackus » Thu. Oct. 22, 2009 6:33 pm

I would rather burn coal, but often times during the start of the fall season I will just start a wood fire in mine. I do not pay for the wood since I cut and spilt my own at my house. Call me old fashion, but I still use an ax and only spilt about a cord of wood for a season. It is just nice to get a wood fire going to take the coolness and dampness out of the inside plus when it is warm during the day and cold at night. Trust me I would rather tend to a coal fire twice a day than load wood in every 5 hours.... Dan

 
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Post by JJLL » Tue. Jan. 12, 2010 10:19 am

Recently I've started to experience jamming in the grates in my Harman SF-360, I'm not shaking anymore, I call it "jiggling" :D

Lightly vibrating motion and I'm using an old fireplace poker under and on top of the grates.

Due to the things I've learned in this thread, it's made a world of difference.

Thanks guys.

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