My 1912 Hub Heater Baseburner Thread

My 1912 Hub Heater Baseburner Thread

PostBy: oros35 On: Tue Oct 27, 2009 6:56 pm

Well here it is. Because of you guys I now am the proud owner of a 1912 Hub Heater! Been working on getting it installed over the last month or so. I started out with just a block wall, a pile of old bricks and coblestones and an idea. With all of your input on chimneys and which heater to buy, I bought this one from Barnstable Stove in MA. It's in excellent condition and looks better in real life than the pics. For a chimney I found a silghtly used SS 6" on craigslist for 1/4 of the price of new. I need to connect one piece of stove pipe and then I can light it up! I still have to do some finish work on the wall, 2 shelfs and a half wall to complete it as a 3 sided brick cove that faces the game room.
So here it is, I will have to get some better pics, these are just some quick cell phone pics.
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Baseburners & Antiques: 1912 Smith & Anthony Hub Heater #215
Stove/Furnace Make: Smith & Anthony Co.
Stove/Furnace Model: #215 Hub Heater

Re: My 1912 Hub Heater Baseburner Thread

PostBy: DOUG On: Tue Oct 27, 2009 8:07 pm

WOW!! Sharp stove and great looking installation! If you plan on burning any coal, install a barometric draft regulator in the stovepipe. I can't wait to see pictures of it all fired up. Once again, Great Job! :D
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Re: My 1912 Hub Heater Baseburner Thread

PostBy: SMITTY On: Tue Oct 27, 2009 8:19 pm

That's worth the 6.25% sales tax ... maybe! :D

Nice stove!! :up: :punk:
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Re: My 1912 Hub Heater Baseburner Thread

PostBy: CapeCoaler On: Tue Oct 27, 2009 9:45 pm

Barnstable Stove does nice work...
You should see the parts pile...
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Re: My 1912 Hub Heater Baseburner Thread

PostBy: oros35 On: Tue Oct 27, 2009 10:28 pm

CapeCoaler wrote:You should see the parts pile...

Ya I've heard. I didn't get to see it for myself, but my Father did pick it up in person and bring it home for me. He said it was impressive.

He also brought home a very small pot belly stove that was unrestored. I'm gonna need some help for that one, we are gonna restore it ourselves.
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Baseburners & Antiques: 1912 Smith & Anthony Hub Heater #215
Stove/Furnace Make: Smith & Anthony Co.
Stove/Furnace Model: #215 Hub Heater

Re: My 1912 Hub Heater Baseburner Thread

PostBy: ggans2 On: Tue Oct 27, 2009 11:51 pm

What exactly is a base burner?
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Stove/Furnace Make: Florence
Stove/Furnace Model: Hot Blast #77

Re: My 1912 Hub Heater Baseburner Thread

PostBy: oros35 On: Wed Oct 28, 2009 1:35 am

Definition online:
Base´-burn`er
n. 1. A furnace or stove in which the fuel is contained in a hopper or chamber, and is fed to the fire as the lower stratum is consumed.

I've seen a couple different definitions. Mine could also be clasified as a cylinder stove. But from what I've gathered, a baseburner is generally considered any stove primarily for heating that is fed from above and ashes removed from the bottom that was built from about 1880 to 1915. Usually baseburners are large units that are well decorated.
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Baseburners & Antiques: 1912 Smith & Anthony Hub Heater #215
Stove/Furnace Make: Smith & Anthony Co.
Stove/Furnace Model: #215 Hub Heater

Re: My 1912 Hub Heater Baseburner Thread

PostBy: wsherrick On: Wed Oct 28, 2009 1:57 am

ggans2 wrote:What exactly is a base burner?


Actually a base burner is a stove that circulates the exhaust gasses through a secondary, heat exchanging chamber to extract more heat out of the fuel. The path of the fire usually goes down from the back around and under the base of the stove and then back up to finally exhaust at the collar. The base of the stove actually heats up hence the term base burner. Baseburners may or may not have a hopper or magazine to feed the fire as it burns.
Look at the picture of the back of my stove in the ,"Got The Glenwood Installed and Tested," thread and you will see a vertical pipe that is between the stove and the stove pipe collar. It is hard to see but there is a damper lever there to set the stove for direct exhaust or base burning. The vertical pipe is where the smoke follows the path down through the heat exchanging passages. A standard cylinder stove has a direct vent at the top of the barrel where as a base burner has the exhaust collar near the middle of the stove. Hope this helps. :D
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Re: My 1912 Hub Heater Baseburner Thread

PostBy: oros35 On: Wed Oct 28, 2009 3:13 am

wsherrick wrote:Actually a base burner is a stove that circulates the exhaust gasses through a secondary, heat exchanging chamber to extract more heat out of the fuel. The path of the fire usually goes down from the back around and under the base of the stove and then back up to finally exhaust at the collar. The base of the stove actually heats up hence the term base burner. Baseburners may or may not have a hopper or magazine to feed the fire as it burns.

Yep that too.

Mine has the damper that will recirculate the gasses through the base of the unit too.

I'll get some pictures and post them up here in a couple of days.
oros35
 
Baseburners & Antiques: 1912 Smith & Anthony Hub Heater #215
Stove/Furnace Make: Smith & Anthony Co.
Stove/Furnace Model: #215 Hub Heater

Re: My 1912 Hub Heater Baseburner Thread

PostBy: wsherrick On: Wed Oct 28, 2009 10:34 am

You have a super nice stove there. Take your time in learning how to light it up and use it. So far I have been able to get mine to burn almost 30 hours on one loading of coal. Once the weather actually gets cold I probably won't get it to burn that long, but; you should be able to get the same results out of yours and these things will really heat the whole house. Last night I had the windows open upstairs in the bedrooms to cool the house down.
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Coal Size/Type: Chestnut, Stove Size

Re: My 1912 Hub Heater Baseburner Thread

PostBy: ggans2 On: Wed Oct 28, 2009 10:42 am

wsherrick wrote:You have a super nice stove there. Take your time in learning how to light it up and use it. So far I have been able to get mine to burn almost 30 hours on one loading of coal. Once the weather actually gets cold I probably won't get it to burn that long, but; you should be able to get the same results out of yours and these things will really heat the whole house. Last night I had the windows open upstairs in the bedrooms to cool the house down.



What kind of stove do you have sir?
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Stove/Furnace Make: Florence
Stove/Furnace Model: Hot Blast #77

Re: My 1912 Hub Heater Baseburner Thread

PostBy: ggans2 On: Thu Oct 29, 2009 10:15 pm

Also what kind of coal , size are you burning?
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Re: My 1912 Hub Heater Baseburner Thread

PostBy: oros35 On: Fri Oct 30, 2009 4:50 am

Some more pics

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Baseburners & Antiques: 1912 Smith & Anthony Hub Heater #215
Stove/Furnace Make: Smith & Anthony Co.
Stove/Furnace Model: #215 Hub Heater

Re: My 1912 Hub Heater Baseburner Thread

PostBy: oros35 On: Sun Nov 01, 2009 8:25 pm

Some more pics

Sould fire it up sometime this week!!
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Baseburners & Antiques: 1912 Smith & Anthony Hub Heater #215
Stove/Furnace Make: Smith & Anthony Co.
Stove/Furnace Model: #215 Hub Heater

Re: My 1912 Hub Heater Baseburner Thread

PostBy: oros35 On: Fri Nov 06, 2009 12:28 am

Well I built a small wood fire in it today. Filled the house with smoke..... Started off with just the paint smoking, but after it got going I had alot of wood smoke leaking out of the front door.

A couple of things I'm worried about that I hope someone on here can help me with.
The doors seem to leak so bad that opening or closing the dampers on the ash door or front door doesn't seem to do anything.
It seemed like it was burning way too hot for just a wood fire and I couldn't idle it down any more. With the MPD open you could hear the fire roar, closing it made a huge difference but still quite a suction. The dampers on the doors didn't make a difference at all, either MPD closed or open. Putting it in recirc mode also made a big difference and again the dampers on the doors didn't do anything.

The exhaust pipe was very hot. I need to get thermometers to tell for sure but the flames were going all the way into the exhaust pipe.

Not sure if it's how I'm running it, or if something else is wrong.

It did put off a ton of heat though, I could see the heat comming off of it, and that was as closed up as I could get it.
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Baseburners & Antiques: 1912 Smith & Anthony Hub Heater #215
Stove/Furnace Make: Smith & Anthony Co.
Stove/Furnace Model: #215 Hub Heater

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