In God We Still Trust

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Re: In God We Still Trust

PostBy: BillMarti On: Sun Dec 20, 2009 11:33 pm

Mark, along with Quelle, is the source material for the other two synoptic gospels.

Mark was not an apostle.

Matthew and Luke are derivative works of Mark and Q

Very few serious biblical scholars still believe John the Apostle wrote the gospel.

By the way, Quelle is not a person. http://www.earlychristianwritings.com/q.html


There's far more to understanding Jesus (or any religion) than the canonical. If you only follow the canonical you are limited by the dogma of whatever denomination you choose to follow.


You believe what you believe out of faith.

The Bible declares it plainly Romans 10:17 So then faith cometh by hearing, and hearing by the word of God


I believe what I believe out of reason, history, archaeology, and linguistic research.

So your saying there is new revelation or lost scriptures


You clearly have no interest in learning anything you don't already know so I'm going to give up trying to get you to learn something new.

No you are adding words that we are forbidden to do Rev 22:18 I warn everyone who hears the words of the prophecy of this book: If anyone adds anything to them, God will add to him the plagues described in this book.
Good night.[/quote]


I think your way out there The bible clearly states . As I said mans opinion has nothing to do with God's word and if you had something to teach me fine but your opinion on teaching is not biblical is it? God's bible and mans opinion on the bible are as far as the east is from the west. Here's an educational site for you to do so research http://www.allaboutreligion.org/ Good Night
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Re: In God We Still Trust

PostBy: samhill On: Tue Apr 01, 2014 10:02 am

Bringing back this old thread because of learning something new. Stopped at the Senior Center yesterday for a short visit with our therapy dog, in talking to an old 102 & still going strong gentleman I was told that they used to salute the flag with a Nazi style except palm up when he was in school.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Bellamy_salute
Didn't know this or how sharp he was until I looked it up, he also said back in the days there was a big mess with Jehovah Witnesses refusing to say the P of A in schools but it was either prior of during WW2 & some violence against them happened. I guess everything old does become new again but I wonder why my parents never mentioned about the flag salute. :?
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Re: In God We Still Trust

PostBy: rberq On: Tue Apr 01, 2014 12:42 pm

samhill wrote:I wonder why my parents never mentioned about the flag salute. :?:

Interesting. I don't recall my parents ever mentioning it, either, though they would be approaching the same age if they were still living. I wonder when the salute style changed.
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Re: In God We Still Trust

PostBy: freetown fred On: Tue Apr 01, 2014 1:42 pm

When this topic first came out--I asked my Mom, then 99 yrs-has crossed over since--& she said she didn't recall it in the Phila. school system--Frankford to be precise:) FYI--it was the Roman salute way before it became the Nazi salute
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Re: In God We Still Trust

PostBy: samhill On: Tue Apr 01, 2014 2:39 pm

I hear that Freetown, I had learned a lot about the swastika being on many real old tombstones years ago, just never knew our school systems ever used anything but the hand over the heart. As I said everything old becomes new again, glad I never had to try doing some of those march step some countries do, I'd still be doing hard time in military prison. :roll: :oops:
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Re: In God We Still Trust

PostBy: freetown fred On: Tue Apr 01, 2014 3:13 pm

Appropriately called goose steppin--WTF--them thar lil guys got no knees :clap: toothy
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Re: In God We Still Trust

PostBy: chester On: Fri Apr 04, 2014 9:46 am

As was the swastika,It was in many Cultures long before Hitler. He had nothing new ,Just packaged it up in a different form. once again knowing history is vital in your choice to be a sheep or a wolf ! :rambo2:
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Re: In God We Still Trust

PostBy: samhill On: Fri Apr 04, 2014 11:18 am

You lost me with that one Chester. :?
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Re: In God We Still Trust

PostBy: Sunny Boy On: Sun Apr 06, 2014 10:32 am

chester wrote:As was the swastika,It was in many Cultures long before Hitler. He had nothing new ,Just packaged it up in a different form. once again knowing history is vital in your choice to be a sheep or a wolf ! :rambo2:


The old saying is, "There's nothing new under the Sun."

The swastika goes way back. Hitler was big into history (and twisting it).

When I worked in a museum, we did a display on armor through the centuries. The oldest piece was a bronze Greek helmet - the newest was WWII Army Air Corps flack suits.

One display I set up was a Samurai's full suit of armor - early 17th century. It was decorated in many places with the exact same symbol as the Nazis swastika.

That symbol turns up in many different cultures throughout history. The Nazis were just one of the most recent to use it.

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