Complaint Department

Re: Complaint Department

PostBy: rberq On: Sun Apr 03, 2011 5:58 pm

samhill wrote:I have a 160 Gal gas tank on a small tower, my neighbor has one for diesel, I don`t know if it`s just the local oil Co. or all of them that put such a high delivery fee that the cost just about comes out the same.

Hmmmm. Gasoline seems like it would be tricky to handle, and you usually see it shipped in very large tanker trucks that are set up for in-ground filling station tanks. So I suppose it requires a special smaller truck with a special pump to deliver to a farm tank, and the economies of scale are lost. I wonder if it is different in the mid-West where the farms are REALLY big.

Same as with no. 2 fuel oil which is widely used for heating in my area -- the cost of small house-to-house deliveries has to be a factor in the price. No. 2 is heavier and therefore in my non-chemist mind is less-refined and should be cheaper than gasoline, but it generally is not.
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Re: Complaint Department

PostBy: SMITTY On: Sun Apr 03, 2011 6:09 pm

Dry Gas - used to pour about 4 bottles in my '85 Monte Carlo to get it to pass emissions back in the day. :lol: Passed with flying colors ... but didn't run so good afterward.

EMISSIONS TESTS! :down: :mad3: :no1:
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Re: Complaint Department

PostBy: Yanche On: Sun Apr 03, 2011 6:11 pm

I tried to buy high octane aviation gas at my local private airport. I wanted to mix it with hi-test road gas to boast the octane for my Corvairs. They would not sell to me. Since Corvair engines are sometimes used to power home built airplanes we got in to a conversation about home built planes. I asked if I were building such an engine where would I get the high octane aviation gas to test it. With a smile he said from him. So there you go, it all depends what you tell the seller.
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Re: Complaint Department

PostBy: samhill On: Sun Apr 03, 2011 6:19 pm

In the 70s we used to be able to drive up to some pumps at the County Airport & get gas, then they would only sell it to you in metal spill proof cans & then finally only if you had an aircraft. I know I can get it from Meadville airport by saying its for my neighbor that has his own plane. I might just start doing that.
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Re: Complaint Department

PostBy: SMITTY On: Sun Apr 03, 2011 6:22 pm

Ahhh .... metal gas cans .... remember those? No waiting 10 minutes for 2 quarts to come out - just tip & go till your full. Those were the good ol' days. :(

Stupid plastic eco crap gas cans! :down: :mad3: :no1:
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Re: Complaint Department

PostBy: Poconoeagle On: Tue Apr 05, 2011 10:53 pm

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but I wanted to break it in on thier fuel....

bought the six pack of thier HP ultra oil mix at the time of purchase and it extended the warrenty to double!

even bought the 20 dollar 2.5 gal i d 10 t carb compliant gas can.....

those bas$#^9s :|
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Re: Complaint Department

PostBy: samhill On: Wed Apr 06, 2011 8:16 am

Bob, I guess it`s because of such a demand in rural areas but gas is delivered in the same size single rear axle trucks that deliver heating oil & diesel, the elevated tanks are common around here, some of the big farms have the underground tanks with a gas pump just like a service station.
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Re: Complaint Department

PostBy: Poconoeagle On: Wed Apr 06, 2011 8:27 am

When I owned my gas stations the delivery tankers had a max ability to bring 9000 gal. They were multi axle trailers with several separate compartments.

I think the smaller companies use smaller trucks for different types and ease of access to smaller retailers.


selling gasoline by the quart in a hardware store is by far the smallest quantity i have bought yet other than nitro fuel in the hobby store ;)
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Re: Complaint Department

PostBy: coalnewbie On: Fri Apr 08, 2011 9:25 am

The old farmer across the street from me, now ten years dead, had a big red gas tank by his equipment shed


See if it still has gas in that you can buy. A good friend so mine (a Vietnam vet) swears that when the war really ramped up the military had a temporary gas shortage. They dug up a load of 55 gal drums filled with gas from WWII and the fuel was just fine. Meanwhile your truly spent three hours yesterday ungumming a stabilized (hah) lawn mower carb - all thx to ethanol.
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Re: Complaint Department

PostBy: Poconoeagle On: Fri Apr 08, 2011 11:49 am

the instructions from Sthil currently says: " Only mix sufficient fuel for a few days work,not to exceed 3 months of storage."

"for periods of 3 months or longer:
drain and clean the fuel tank in a well ventilated area
dispose of fuel properly in accordance with local environmental requirements
run the engine until the carburetor is dry- this helps prevent the carburator diaphragms sticking together"

funny.... the seminar in hershey the other day had a long discussion about the ethanol situation.
tests done all over NE pa showed 10-15% but many,many stations with up to 27% !!!!! most of those were independent "patel" stations 8-)
the ethanol is "splash blended" meaning its put into the empty tankers and mixed as its filled and transported...

it settle's out when dormant so like apollo 13 be careful when "stiring the tank".... 8-)
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Re: Complaint Department

PostBy: Rob R. On: Fri Apr 08, 2011 12:02 pm

I have had no problems storing gasoline treated with stabilizer through the winter. My Sthil trimmer started right up, as did the pressure washer. I admit that they run better after the old gas is purged, but I haven't had to tear the carburetors apart to get or keep them running.
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Re: Complaint Department

PostBy: Poconoeagle On: Fri Apr 08, 2011 12:10 pm

I agree also. I put stabil in all my tanks before filling them . I do usually shut off the fuel supply and starve the carb before long term tho...
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Re: Complaint Department

PostBy: Poconoeagle On: Sun Apr 10, 2011 10:12 am

Poconoeagle
 
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Re: Complaint Department

PostBy: steamup On: Mon Apr 11, 2011 3:24 pm

Yanche wrote:I tried to buy high octane aviation gas at my local private airport. I wanted to mix it with hi-test road gas to boast the octane for my Corvairs. They would not sell to me. Since Corvair engines are sometimes used to power home built airplanes we got in to a conversation about home built planes. I asked if I were building such an engine where would I get the high octane aviation gas to test it. With a smile he said from him. So there you go, it all depends what you tell the seller.


I ran with a fire department drill team one summer many moons ago. They purchased racing car fuel that was 100 octane. Very expensive compared to regular gasoline but available. Suprising enough there were a couple of service stations that sold it to the public, mainly for racing car hobbists. Bet that gas would make the old Corvair purr.
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Re: Complaint Department

PostBy: Wood'nCoal On: Sat Dec 24, 2011 12:21 am

After Hurricane Irene and TS Lee my Ridgid submersible sump pump quit, about 3 or 4 years old, bought a new pedestal pump from Grainger, Dayton brand, bronze volute, brass tube, stainless steel impeller, shaft, and bottom cover. Got it home...Made in Red China. Motor is from Wang Fong Electric or something like that. It wasn't cheap. Come to find out that the motor isn't split phase like my 15 year old Teel, it can't start under any kind of load. About 2 months ago the rotor was locked, had to take it apart, there was a little piece of coal between the impeller and the bottom cover. Took the dog out around 10:15 tonight, I hear my back up pump running (the old Teel). Ended up pulling the Dayton pump out, there was another little piece of coal stuck in the pump again. If it had a start up windings like the GE motor on the Teel it would have had enough start up torque to blow the jam right out. Damn Chinese crap!
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