Osama bin Laden is Dead

Re: Osama bin Laden is Dead

PostBy: ErikLaurence On: Fri Nov 06, 2009 12:29 pm

ggans2 wrote:
Yeah at ten floors or about 120 feet per second? sure Ok..


Go figure it out for yourself. Here's everything you need

The buildings were 1350 feet tall (415 meters)

They took about 14 seconds to fall.


The equation for the time it takes a falling object to reach a given velocity is:

t = v/g

where

* t is the time in seconds
* v is the velocity in meters/second (m/s) or feet/second (ft/s)
* g is the acceleration due to gravity (9.8 m/s^2 or 32 ft/s^2)

Therefore v=tg




The equation to determine the time it takes an object to fall a given distance is:

t = √(2x/g)

where

* x is the distance from the starting point in meters (m) or feet (ft)
* √ stands for square root
* √(2x/g) is the square root of the quantity (2x/g)
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Re: Osama bin Laden is Dead

PostBy: Richard S. On: Fri Nov 06, 2009 12:31 pm

ggans2 wrote:But if you insist please provide the video of the plane hitting the building, please show me the turbofans, the seats , the cargo, the wings , the tail and more important the damage to the building where the plain impacted. As in where the wing tips hit , where the tail hit, where the engines hit.



Here's what happens to a plane when it hits something going 500MPH:

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Re: Osama bin Laden is Dead

PostBy: SuperBeetle On: Fri Nov 06, 2009 12:47 pm

So I suppose this would be a hoax as well :?:
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Re: Osama bin Laden is Dead

PostBy: ggans2 On: Fri Nov 06, 2009 12:59 pm

Richard S. wrote:
ggans2 wrote:But if you insist please provide the video of the plane hitting the building, please show me the turbofans, the seats , the cargo, the wings , the tail and more important the damage to the building where the plain impacted. As in where the wing tips hit , where the tail hit, where the engines hit.



Here's what happens to a plane when it hits something going 500MPH:



Thats great, It's a fighter jet hitting a solid wall, A 757 is not, And did not hit a solid wall, And cant fly at sea level at 500 MPH. If you don't believe me call this number and ask for yourself.. 206-655-1131
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Re: Osama bin Laden is Dead

PostBy: ggans2 On: Fri Nov 06, 2009 1:02 pm

SuperBeetle wrote:So I suppose this would be a hoax as well :?:



Boy you guys are doing a great job of jogging my memory!!!

I'll give you a hint , the hint is: "Cleveland Airport Mystery" :D
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Re: Osama bin Laden is Dead

PostBy: Richard S. On: Fri Nov 06, 2009 1:25 pm

ggans2 wrote:Thats great, It's a fighter jet hitting a solid wall, A 757 is not, And did not hit a solid wall, And cant fly at sea level at 500 MPH. If you don't believe me call this number and ask for yourself.. 206-655-1131


The pentagon is almost entirely constructed with concrete. It may not be the equivalent of solid wall but it's pretty damn close.


http://concreteproducts.com/mag/concrete_nothing_secret_pentagons/
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Chances are good the Pentagon will be in the news this month for action related to Sept. 11, 2001. To construction and engineering professionals, one of the more obscure reports involving the world's largest reinforced concrete building should come as no surprise: The Pentagon's resilient structural system curtailed damage inflicted by the crash of the hijacked American Airlines Flight 77 shortly after 9:30 a.m. on Sept. 11. Its design helped arrest progression of collapse and resultant loss of life.

Those are among observations of The Pentagon Building Performance Report, prepared by a six-member team of structural, fire protection, and forensic engineers and released in late January by the American Society of Civil Engineers. They noted that the structural performance of the Pentagon — a five-story fortress whose 1941-1943 construction saw placement of more than 400,000 yd. of concrete — validates measures to reduce collapse resulting from unlikely events, including 1) continuity, such as the extension of floor reinforcements through structural supports; 2) redundancy in design and construction, such as two-directional framing of the floors; and, 3) spirally steel-reinforced concrete columns that absorb energy generated from a lateral load, such as high wind, earthquake … or aircraft impact.
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Re: Osama bin Laden is Dead

PostBy: ErikLaurence On: Fri Nov 06, 2009 1:27 pm

ggans2 wrote:
Yeah at ten floors or about 120 feet per second? sure Ok..



Did you do the math yet?

Freefall from 1350 feet takes 9.18 seconds and the object hits the ground going 294 feet/second.

Any questions?
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Re: Osama bin Laden is Dead

PostBy: coaledsweat On: Fri Nov 06, 2009 1:38 pm

How does rate of fall connect to the death (real or imagined) of OBL?
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Re: Osama bin Laden is Dead

PostBy: wlape3 On: Fri Nov 06, 2009 1:43 pm

Maybe he got pushed out of an airplane? :notsure:
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Re: Osama bin Laden is Dead

PostBy: ErikLaurence On: Fri Nov 06, 2009 2:27 pm

coaledsweat wrote:How does rate of fall connect to the death (real or imagined) of OBL?


They both fall into the category of refuting paranoia about 9/11.
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Re: Osama bin Laden is Dead

PostBy: ggans2 On: Fri Nov 06, 2009 8:48 pm

ErikLaurence wrote:
ggans2 wrote:
Yeah at ten floors or about 120 feet per second? sure Ok..



Did you do the math yet?

Freefall from 1350 feet takes 9.18 seconds and the object hits the ground going 294 feet/second.

Any questions?


No questions just a comment, No I did not do the math, the math doesn't matter that much. What matters is the fact that the buildings turned into dust and fell out of the sky or haven't you seen the video. That event did not happen all by it self, there was help, nothing self distructs like that. There was nothing but dust left. Further more it did not happen just once, nor twice but three times on the same day in the same place ! Give me a break...

Now whats your freeken point?
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Re: Osama bin Laden is Dead

PostBy: ErikLaurence On: Fri Nov 06, 2009 8:55 pm

ggans2 wrote:
No questions just a comment, No I did not do the math, the math doesn't matter that much.


That pretty much sums up your whole point.

Facts are irrelevant. Science is irrelevant.
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Re: Osama bin Laden is Dead

PostBy: ggans2 On: Fri Nov 06, 2009 9:00 pm

How thick are you guys, science based fact is what disproves the official story.. DUH..
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Re: Osama bin Laden is Dead

PostBy: ggans2 On: Fri Nov 06, 2009 9:03 pm

Back to topic...

AP Article, 4/26/02, by ROBERT BURNS
"We're hunting him down," he said. "We're tracking him down. He's hiding. We haven't heard hide nor hair of him for about, oh, since December, in terms of anything hard." Rumsfeld said.

Rumsfeld admitting signs of Bin Laden after mid December were probably not valid.

RECENT PHOTOS SHOW A SICKLY BIN LADEN:

Early photo
Dec 7, 2001 tape
Very ill from Kidney Dialysis

Reported Funeral mid December 2001: Translation on right.
2001 was spent in American hospitals,
Till his death in mid-December
# Israeli Intelligence: he died and all new videos are faked
# He had Kidney operation July 4 in Dubai, reports "La Figaro"
# CNN reported 2/1/02 bin Laden aged enormously
# Pakistan President Musharraf says he died of Kidney Failure
# Doctor says he is extremely ill requiring dialysis

Reported Funeral mid December 2001: Translation on right.
2001 was spent in American hospitals,
Till his death in mid-December
# Israeli Intelligence: he died and all new videos are faked
# He had Kidney operation July 4 in Dubai, reports "La Figaro"
# CNN reported 2/1/02 bin Laden aged enormously
# Pakistan President Musharraf says he died of Kidney Failure
# Doctor says he is extremely ill requiring dialysis

Somebody is trying to convince us
that he is still alive
# October Surprise 2004: From left handed to right handed? The new tape is fake!
# November 2002: Lab confirms voice tapes are fake
# September 2002: More bin Laden videos, but voice only?
# March 2002: bin Laden sends an email from his AOL?
# May 2002: Old bin Laden tapes, sent as new tapes
# June 2002: Promises of new tapes, which the U.S. media may "choose" not to air. Who were the terrorists REALLY working for?
Venice Flying Circus
Reported Funeral mid December 2001




Translation of Funeral Article in Egyptian Paper:
al-Wafd, Wednesday, December 26, 2001 Vol 15 No 4633

News of Bin Laden's Death
and Funeral 10 days ago

Islamabad -
A prominent official in the Afghan Taleban movement announced yesterday the death of Osama bin Laden, the chief of al-Qa'da organization, stating that binLaden suffered serious complications in the lungs and died a natural and quiet death. The official, who asked to remain anonymous, stated to The Observer of Pakistan that he had himself attended the funeral of bin Laden and saw his face prior to burial in Tora Bora 10 days ago. He mentioned that 30 of al-Qa'da fighters attended the burial as well as members of his family and some friends from the Taleban. In the farewell ceremony to his final rest guns were fired in the air. The official stated that it is difficult to pinpoint the burial location of bin Laden because according to the Wahhabi tradition no mark is left by the grave. He stressed that it is unlikely that the American forces would ever uncover any traces of bin Laden.
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Re: Osama bin Laden is Dead

PostBy: ErikLaurence On: Fri Nov 06, 2009 9:04 pm

ggans2 wrote:How thick are you guys, science based fact is what disproves the official story.. DUH..


Well we just disproved your theory of the buildings falling at free fall speeds. Which of your other wacky theories would you like disproved?
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