Osama bin Laden is Dead

Re: Osama bin Laden is Dead

PostBy: RMA On: Fri Nov 06, 2009 9:10 pm

ErikLaurence wrote:
ggans2 wrote:
No questions just a comment, No I did not do the math, the math doesn't matter that much.


That pretty much sums up your whole point.

Facts are irrelevant. Science is irrelevant.


They don't teach that at the ROSIE O'DONNELL SCHOOL of UNGENEERING :nana: :nana: :nana:

Bob


I have never read such a strangely amusing thread! :bang: :bang: :bang:
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Re: Osama bin Laden is Dead

PostBy: ggans2 On: Fri Nov 06, 2009 9:13 pm

ErikLaurence wrote:
ggans2 wrote:How thick are you guys, science based fact is what disproves the official story.. DUH..


Well we just disproved your theory of the buildings falling at free fall speeds. Which of your other wacky theories would you like disproved?


That your intelligent.. :D :D :D

Oh edit to ad: No you did not.

Edit to ad again, Did I say that? Dam , there's an old saying, Don't argue with an Idiot, they will drag you down to there level and beat you... Yep :P
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Re: Osama bin Laden is Dead

PostBy: ErikLaurence On: Fri Nov 06, 2009 9:18 pm

ggans2 wrote:
ErikLaurence wrote:
ggans2 wrote:How thick are you guys, science based fact is what disproves the official story.. DUH..


Well we just disproved your theory of the buildings falling at free fall speeds. Which of your other wacky theories would you like disproved?


That your intelligent.. :D :D :D

Oh edit to ad: No you did not.


"you're" not "your"


How would you know if your theory was disproved if you have not bothered to run the numbers?
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Re: Osama bin Laden is Dead

PostBy: ggans2 On: Fri Nov 06, 2009 9:35 pm

Well we just disproved your theory of the buildings falling at free fall speeds. Which of your other wacky theories would you like disproved?[/quote]

That your intelligent.. :D :D :D

Oh edit to ad: No you did not.[/quote]

"you're" not "your"


How would you know if your theory was disproved if you have not bothered to run the numbers?[/quote]

It's not my theory, it's the theory of engineers, physicist and architects.
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Re: Osama bin Laden is Dead

PostBy: ggans2 On: Fri Nov 06, 2009 9:39 pm

Here is one for you guys, I know by the way you all are behaving you must be big Fox News fans. I should call you Hannity & Colmes, Really just Hannity..



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Usama bin Laden has died a peaceful death due to an untreated lung complication, the Pakistan Observer reported, citing a Taliban leader who allegedly attended the funeral of the Al Qaeda leader.

"The Coalition troops are engaged in a mad search operation but they would never be able to fulfill their cherished goal of getting Usama alive or dead," the source said.

Bin Laden, according to the source, was suffering from a serious lung complication and succumbed to the disease in mid-December, in the vicinity of the Tora Bora mountains. The source claimed that bin Laden was laid to rest honorably in his last abode and his grave was made as per his Wahabi belief.

About 30 close associates of bin Laden in Al Qaeda, including his most trusted and personal bodyguards, his family members and some "Taliban friends," attended the funeral rites. A volley of bullets was also fired to pay final tribute to the "great leader."

The Taliban source who claims to have seen bin Laden's face before burial said "he looked pale ... but calm, relaxed and confident."

Asked whether bin Laden had any feelings of remorse before death, the source vehemently said "no." Instead, he said, bin Laden was proud that he succeeded in his mission of igniting awareness amongst Muslims about hegemonistic designs and conspiracies of "pagans" against Islam. Bin Laden, he said, held the view that the sacrifice of a few hundred people in Afghanistan was nothing, as those who laid their lives in creating an atmosphere of resistance will be adequately rewarded by Almighty Allah.

When asked where bin Laden was buried, the source said, "I am sure that like other places in Tora Bora, that particular place too must have vanished."
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Re: Osama bin Laden is Dead

PostBy: ggans2 On: Fri Nov 06, 2009 9:42 pm

And if that's not true..

Wednesday, January 2, 2008
Benazir Bhutto: Omar Sheikh Murdered Osama bin-Laden

In a November 2, 2007 interview, less than two months before she would be assassinated, Benazir Bhutto was asked by reporter David Frost of Al-Jazeera English about a letter that she had sent to Pakistani dictator Pervez Musharraf. The letter outlined who she believed should be investigated in the event of her assassination. While giving her answer, she listed as one of the suspects a "key figure in security... a former military officer in Pakistan" who had dealings with, among others, "Omar Sheikh, the man who murdered Osama bin-Laden."

It would seen all the info no matter what it is seems to point to him being dead.. Hum..
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Re: Osama bin Laden is Dead

PostBy: ggans2 On: Fri Nov 06, 2009 9:44 pm

Not again

April 29th, 2009 6:19 AM Print

The Media Line

Arch-terrorist Osama Bin Laden "may have been killed", since there is little information to suggest he is alive, Pakistani President Asif Ali Zardari said on Monday.

Neither Pakistani nor American intelligence experts have detected traces of Bin Laden since the Qatar-based Al-Jazeera aired an audio recording of his voice in March, Zardari said, and even that recording has not been confirmed as Bin Laden’s voice.

Zardari said his advisers believed there was substance to the rumors of his death, but he could not confirm this.

There have been several reports over the last few years suggesting Bin Laden, 52, could be dead, and others regarding his ailing health.

None of the reports have been substantiated.

It is believed the terror chief is hiding in the mountainous region that straddles the Pakistan-Afghanistan border.

U.S. State Department Spokesman Robert Wood said the U.S. had "no information" as to whether Bin Laden was dead or alive. “We will continue to hunt Osama Bin Laden until we can capture him or bring justice to him,” Wood said.

An editorial in the London-based Al-Quds Al-‘Arabi suggested that whoever leaked the rumor of his death wanted to prompt Bin Laden to produce a new video to prove he was still alive.

“They hope this will provide more information on his whereabouts or hideout, which will help bring about his arrest.”

Zardari’s comments could also be a message to the U.S. that the mastermind behind terrorism in Pakistan is in fact not alive, Al-Quds Al-‘Arabi said.

The U.S. has been pressuring Islamabad to take tougher measures against terrorism within its border.

However, the editorial’s author believes rumors of his death are premature.

“The death of the Al-Qa’ida leader is not so far-fetched, and he will depart at some point, whether as a result of a disease, an assassination or in clashes with the numerous intelligence agencies around the world that are pursuing him” the editorial said.

“But if he dies, it will be announced officially by the organization, the same way they already announced the deaths of several lower-level leaders.”

An official announcement of his death has to be made, he wrote, in order to solve legal issues such as inheritance laws and the legal status of the widow.

There is increasing concern in the international community that terrorists such as those in Bin Laden’s Al-Qa’ida organization and the hard-line Taliban will get their hands on Pakistan’s nuclear weapons.

Last week, the Taliban managed to reach an area located approximately 100 kilometers from the capital Islamabad before being repelled.

Zardari ruled out the possibility of nuclear weapons falling into the hands of the Taliban.

“The nuclear capability of Pakistan is in safe hands,” he said.

The Pakistani government said the Taliban had completely withdrawn from the district, but reports quoting local eyewitnesses said Taliban fighters were still present on the ground.

The Pakistan army killed 46 Taliban fighters over the past two days in northwest Pakistan’s Lower Dir district.

The Taliban is warning it will attack government forces in the North West Frontier Province (NWFP) if the government does not stop its offensive.

The Taliban has suspended talks with the provincial government in the wake of the clashes.

The government in NWFP struck a deal with the Taliban under which Islamic Law, or Shari’a would be introduced to the area in return for a suspension in Taliban hostilities.

[Source: http://www.themedialine.org/news/news_d ... wsID=24972
Photo: We are unable to ascertain whether the photo is genuine or not. -Editor]
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Re: Osama bin Laden is Dead

PostBy: ErikLaurence On: Fri Nov 06, 2009 9:49 pm

ggans2 wrote:
It's not my theory, it's the theory of engineers, physicist and architects.


A small minority of engineers, physicists, and architects who apparently were absent for a few days during freshman physics class.

Just a few posts back we have, using simple Newtonian physics disproved their theory that the buildings free fell. I would imagine the rest of their theories would be equally simple to disprove. So let's just say their credibility is waning.

As to the topic of the thread about UBL being alive...

I have no information one way or the other. But then, neither do you. It's certainly a more believable theory than the rest of the moronically simple to disprove stuff you're spouting on about.
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Re: Osama bin Laden is Dead

PostBy: ggans2 On: Fri Nov 06, 2009 10:39 pm

ErikLaurence wrote:
ggans2 wrote:
It's not my theory, it's the theory of engineers, physicist and architects.


A small minority of engineers, physicists, and architects who apparently were absent for a few days during freshman physics class.

Just a few posts back we have, using simple Newtonian physics disproved their theory that the buildings free fell. I would imagine the rest of their theories would be equally simple to disprove. So let's just say their credibility is waning.

As to the topic of the thread about UBL being alive...

I have no information one way or the other. But then, neither do you. It's certainly a more believable theory than the rest of the moronically simple to disprove stuff you're spouting on about.


Well sir the small minority continues to grow every day. http://www.ae911truth.org/

And I'm still waiting for someone to explain building 7 ... care to chime in on that sir?
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Re: Osama bin Laden is Dead

PostBy: ErikLaurence On: Fri Nov 06, 2009 10:59 pm

ggans2 wrote:
Well sir the small minority continues to grow every day. http://www.ae911truth.org/

And I'm still waiting for someone to explain building 7 ... care to chime in on that sir?


Already did, a few pages back.

http://www.structuremag.org/Archives/20 ... -Nov07.pdf
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Re: Osama bin Laden is Dead

PostBy: ggans2 On: Fri Nov 06, 2009 11:02 pm

It's time for people to understand that there are no coincidences in the grand scheme of this world. Failing to understand that fact seriously limits your ability to evaluate the current state of your reality. You are limiting your perception. Especially since, these coincidences are absolutely astronomical.


Amazing Coincidences...
Is it a coincidence that the “Pentagon Attack” happened to hit the only section designed to take such a hit?

Is it a coincidence that the hijacker, was so nice to go out of his way to attack that portion, rather than any other portion? Going so far as to execute almost an entire downward circle, to avoid all pentagon brass stationed directly on the opposite side of the building. Just a coincidence?

Is it a coincidence that 3 steel structured towers collapsed into themselves on 911, yet it has never happened before or since? How does a fire, a jet, a bomb, or anything which compromises less than 10% of a steel structure, some how cause a unilateral, complete systematic failure?

Is it a coincidence that some how, for the first time in history that day, we had almost two entire planes vaporize? Such as in Shanksville or at the Pentagon. It must be merely a coincidence, that these two planes practically disappeared. And in the Pentagon attack, it is simply a coincidence that the wings did no damage to the exterior of the building, nor did the engines, before they were 'sucked' into the building and vaporized. Right. Through a sixteen foot hole..

Is it a coincidence or simply amazing luck, that Silverstein purchased the WTC complex 6 weeks prior to 911

It is especially convenient, since purchasing the WTC's were theoretically the worst business move in history. The towers were a black hole, that were only a burden. It was losing money hand over fist, and the cost of needed renovations were staggering. It would be cheaper to rebuild the towers, than to go through purchasing them.

It's just a coincidence, that he profited to the tune of 4.5 billion dollars on a six week investment which cost him 14 million out of pocket.

Thus, it must also be coincidence, that he happened to miss a very important meeting in the World Trade Center that day due to his wife “demanding” he see his dermatologist.

It's then, also a coincidence that Rumsfeld announced that the Pentagon could not account for $2.3 trillion in spending, on September 10th. Luckily for him, the next day a problem would occur, which would enable trillions more in wasted spending.

I suppose it must also be a coincidence, that WTC 7, which was never hit with a plane and had sustained only superficial damage to one part of its facade, with small isolated fires burning, collapsed at near free fall speed mirroring the exact look, and movement of any controlled demolition.

Is it just a coincidence, that on the one time that America is actually attacked, that it is the one time Norad fails to scramble any jets towards the threat. Wait, make that, fails four times to scramble jets to neutralize a threat. All on one amazing day.

Is it just a coincidence, with so much debate about what happened at the Pentagon, that they have still never released anything more than 6 frames of footage? Especially when, not even those 6 frames even show anything conclusively. Perhaps an innocent Government, which had actually been attacked, would show every single tape, from every single angle of that plane hitting that building. So why do we only have 6 inconclusive frames?

Is it just a coincidence that scientists have found Military Grade Thermitic Materials in all dust samples studied from the debris?

Is it just a coincidence, that Marvin Bush was a principal in a company called Securacom which handled security of the WTC? At the exact time, someone was able to smuggle in and plant an estimated 10-100 tons of thermite? Obviously just a coincidence.

It's also just a coincidence, that for the first time in history, with the country under direct attack the preisdent sat still, in a location that had been publicly announced. He was never carried off by the secret service to somewhere “safe”. Perhaps he figured, he was safe.

It's also just a coincidence that pools of molten metal were found under the WTC rubble upto 6 weeks after the attacks. This is obviously something fire alone cannot accomplish, and it's additionally coincidental since it's been scientifically proven that thermite was used that day.

It's also interesting that they spent $65 million investigating Clintons Sex scandal, and only $3 million was designated to investigate the most devastating attack on American Soil ever.

Why did the government feel the need to lie about practically every aspect of that day, continually, when they should have wanted to know for themselves exactly what happened. Perhaps, it's all just a coincidence that they did not care.

Thus....?

The government has lied. Their story does not add up. And thus they must be guilty. There are elements of that day which will likely never be uncovered, as well as theories that will never be proven. But what is clearly evident is that we have been sold a joke,
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Re: Osama bin Laden is Dead

PostBy: ErikLaurence On: Fri Nov 06, 2009 11:11 pm



This is your guy?

Seriously?

"an equal and opposite reaction known as the conservation of momentum" is pure gibberish...

That's the best you can come up with? Where did he get his degree? A cracker jack box?
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Re: Osama bin Laden is Dead

PostBy: ggans2 On: Fri Nov 06, 2009 11:18 pm

ErikLaurence wrote:
ggans2 wrote:
Well sir the small minority continues to grow every day. http://www.ae911truth.org/

And I'm still waiting for someone to explain building 7 ... care to chime in on that sir?


Already did, a few pages back.

http://www.structuremag.org/Archives/20 ... -Nov07.pdf


What bull. this :

Technology (NIST) formed a team to analyze
the collapse of WTC 7. The effort began with
the collection of structural pieces.


Is an absolute lie, NIST nor the 911 commission was not aloud anywhere near wtc 7. The debris was removed Immediately before anything else was touched, the fireman there commented on how fast wtc 7 was cleaned up and removed from the island .It was shipped out of the country within days of the event..

It cracks me up your unwillingness to see the truth, The 911 commission members said not long ago there very own report was bogus because they were lied to by the government. They themselves admit it but you can't accept that.. WOW..
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Re: Osama bin Laden is Dead

PostBy: ggans2 On: Fri Nov 06, 2009 11:19 pm

ErikLaurence wrote:

This is your guy?

Seriously?

"an equal and opposite reaction known as the conservation of momentum" is pure gibberish...

That's the best you can come up with? Where did he get his degree? A cracker jack box?


Never saw that never will ...
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Re: Osama bin Laden is Dead

PostBy: ErikLaurence On: Fri Nov 06, 2009 11:22 pm

ggans2 wrote:
ErikLaurence wrote:

This is your guy?

Seriously?

"an equal and opposite reaction known as the conservation of momentum" is pure gibberish...

That's the best you can come up with? Where did he get his degree? A cracker jack box?


Never saw that never will ...


He's the head of the organization you keep referencing.
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