Our tenth live broadcast will be a discussion with Matthaus and Dave(Flyer5) long time members of the forum who also happen to be the new owners of Leisure Line Stoves.
Note: Unfortunately, the recording of the show is missing the first minute or two. The missing portion contained the show intro, introduction of Matt and Dave, and some quick background/biographical Q&A.
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Coalcast Ep10: "A Chat With Leisure Line" - December 10th, 2009
- Richard S.
- Mayor
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- Joined: Fri. Oct. 01, 2004 8:35 pm
- Location: NEPA
- Stoker Coal Boiler: Van Wert VA1200
- Coal Size/Type: Buckwheat/Anthracite
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- MURDOC1
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- Joined: Fri. Aug. 14, 2009 10:00 am
- Location: Harleysville, Pa.
- Hand Fed Coal Stove: Harman Mark 3 Top Flue
I will tell the world L.L. stoves are the best if you can sell me a new power venter kit for less money than Alaska Stove Co.. Lol!! I do like the L.L. product and am considering a Pocono top vent for next season perhaps..
Seeing 10 episodes of a Coal Pod Cast, well, more officially "Coal Cast" is amazing. I'll be listening to the shows, catching up, just for fun as I'm burning natural gas still. Well done gents!
Coal Kid / Walt
Coal Kid / Walt
- wlape3
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- Hot Air Coal Stoker Furnace: Alaska 140 Auger
- Coal Size/Type: Rice
- Other Heating: Propane
Unfortunately I missed it because it was at the same time as my daughter's choir recital. Any hope of having it posted soon?
Thanks again to everyone for their efforts.
Will
Thanks again to everyone for their efforts.
Will
- Richard S.
- Mayor
- Posts: 15184
- Joined: Fri. Oct. 01, 2004 8:35 pm
- Location: NEPA
- Stoker Coal Boiler: Van Wert VA1200
- Coal Size/Type: Buckwheat/Anthracite
What you missed this for some choir recital, you could have blown it off...
Forgot to thank Matt and Dave for excellent show, it will be posted as soon as Paul gets a chance in the first post.
The next show will be announced shortly.
Forgot to thank Matt and Dave for excellent show, it will be posted as soon as Paul gets a chance in the first post.
The next show will be announced shortly.
Did I understand this correctly? Sales were down because of the CoalTrol's 'complexity'? Personally, I LOVE the fact LL stoves come standard with CT!
Doesn't make sense to me. For people that want something 'simple', I'd think it would be EASIER to operate and save some money by using coal more efficiently with CT.
Doesn't make sense to me. For people that want something 'simple', I'd think it would be EASIER to operate and save some money by using coal more efficiently with CT.
- pvolcko
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He wasn't saying the major sales slump this year was due to the Coal-trol. That's due to the home heating oil price easing as well as the deep recession we've been in.
No, he's saying that having the Coal-trol as standard equipment is a turn off for some potential customers. And the reason is right along the lines you touched on.
The coal stove business is niche and some customer expectations (probably more than with other non-hand-fed heating types) are focused squarely on the simplest of controls, the more manual and mechanical/physical the better. For them the inclusion of an electronics package will never be acceptable, no matter its purpose, ease of use, or track record of reliability and strong customer support, etc. Those customers end up going to other brands because of the decision Leisure Line made to make Coal-trol standard equipment. Being that no company likes to see customers going to a competitor, it is something that comes up from time to time in discussion.
That's not to say that the Coal-trol hasn't brought new customers in to Leisure Line, too. I believe that the net effect has been positive for Leisure Line, as evidenced by their working with us through the years to improve the control and their continued inclusion of Coal-trol as standard equipment on all but their lowest cost model stove, the Econo.
No, he's saying that having the Coal-trol as standard equipment is a turn off for some potential customers. And the reason is right along the lines you touched on.
The coal stove business is niche and some customer expectations (probably more than with other non-hand-fed heating types) are focused squarely on the simplest of controls, the more manual and mechanical/physical the better. For them the inclusion of an electronics package will never be acceptable, no matter its purpose, ease of use, or track record of reliability and strong customer support, etc. Those customers end up going to other brands because of the decision Leisure Line made to make Coal-trol standard equipment. Being that no company likes to see customers going to a competitor, it is something that comes up from time to time in discussion.
That's not to say that the Coal-trol hasn't brought new customers in to Leisure Line, too. I believe that the net effect has been positive for Leisure Line, as evidenced by their working with us through the years to improve the control and their continued inclusion of Coal-trol as standard equipment on all but their lowest cost model stove, the Econo.