Fire Safe Cigarettes

Fire Safe Cigarettes

PostBy: Don_t_Say On: Sun Nov 08, 2009 2:12 am

I've been sick for 45 days with a sinus infection and terrible headaches. I thought I had the H1N1. Now I find my goverment has added some damn chemical to
my cigarettes. I am furious. I will never vote for another incumbent politician as long as live. What the hell has happen to this country? :mad:
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Re: Fire Safe Cigarettes

PostBy: Richard S. On: Sun Nov 08, 2009 2:32 am

Ethylene vinyl acetate (also known as EVA) is the copolymer of ethylene and vinyl acetate. The weight percent vinyl acetate usually varies from 10 to 40%, with the remainder being ethylene.

It is a polymer that approaches elastomeric materials in softness and flexibility, yet can be processed like other thermoplastics. The material has good clarity and gloss, barrier properties, low-temperature toughness, stress-crack resistance, hot-melt adhesive water proof properties, and resistance to UV radiation. EVA has little or no odor and is competitive with rubber and vinyl products in many electrical applications.

Hot melt adhesives, hot glue sticks, are usually made from EVA, usually with additives like wax and resin. EVA is also used as a clinginess-enhancing additive in plastic wraps.

EVA is also used in biomedical engineering applications as a drug delivery device. The polymer is dissolved in an organic solvent (e.g., methylene chloride). Powdered drug and filler (typically an inert sugar) are added to the liquid solution and rapidly mixed to obtain a homogeneous mixture. The drug-filler-polymer mixture is then cast into a mold at -80 degrees and freeze dried until solid. These devices are used in drug delivery research to slowly release a compound over time. While the polymer is not biodegradable within the body, it is quite inert and causes little or no reaction following implantation.

EVA is one of the materials popularly known as 'expanded rubber' or 'foam rubber'. EVA foam is used as padding in equipment for various sports such as ski boots, hockey, boxing, mixed martial arts, wakeboard boots, waterski boots, and fishing rods. It is typically used as a shock absorber in sports shoes, for example. In addition, because of its buoyancy, EVA has made its way into non-traditional products such as floating eyewear. It is also used in the photovoltaics industry as an encapsulation material for silicon cells in the manufacture of photovoltaic modules. EVA slippers and sandals are nowadays very popular because of its properties like light weight, easy to mold, odorless, glossy finish, and cheaper compared to natural rubber. In fishing rods, it is used to construct handles on the rod-butt end. EVA can be used as a substitute for cork in many applications.

EVA emulsions are polyvinyl acetate (PVAc) copolymers based on vinyl acetate (VAM) internally plastized with vinyl acetate ethylene (VAE). PVAc copolymer are adhesives used in packaging, textile, bookbinding for bonding plastic films, metal surfaces, coated paper.

Orthotics, fire safe cigarettes, surfboard and skimboard traction pads, and for the manufacturing of some artificial flowers. It is also used as a clinginess-enhancing additive in plastic wraps, a cold flow improver for diesel fuel and a separater in HEPA filters. EVA is easily cut from sheets and molded to shape. It is also used to make thermoplastic mouthguards that soften in boiling water for a user specific fit.
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Re: Fire Safe Cigarettes

PostBy: cArNaGe On: Sun Nov 08, 2009 3:00 am


Your mad because your sick from smoking? :lol: Your too funny.

Re: Fire Safe Cigarettes

PostBy: Richard S. On: Sun Nov 08, 2009 3:06 am

If the old gubmert started mandating plastic be added to beer would you still be singing same tune carnage?

I think it's understood by the smoker that there is health risks associated with smoking a cigarette but do we really need to compound that with more chemical additives?
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Re: Fire Safe Cigarettes

PostBy: cArNaGe On: Sun Nov 08, 2009 3:11 am

Richard S. wrote:
I think it's understood by the smoker that there is health risks associated with smoking a cigarette but do we really need to compound that with more chemical additives?

No I don't agree with adding the additives.

But I do find it funny that someone with a sinus infection for 45 days is upset that smoking caused it.

Sorta like the person that has a smoke then puts their oxygen mask back on.

Re: Fire Safe Cigarettes

PostBy: samhill On: Sun Nov 08, 2009 8:38 am

I`m not a smoker so I do see a bit of humor in it but I have to agree with the smokers on this one, adding another chemical just doesn`t make sense I fear it will turn out like other things that seem to be a good idea at the time. Asbestos, lead in glass, paint & gas & things like that started out to be mans best friend, if some are having reactions to it already you have to wonder what the long term effects are gonna be.
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Re: Fire Safe Cigarettes

PostBy: ErikLaurence On: Sun Nov 08, 2009 9:04 am

Is there any reason to think that the addition of the chemical to the cigarette paper is what is causing the symptoms? Did these chemicals get added 45 days ago?
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Re: Fire Safe Cigarettes

PostBy: tvb On: Sun Nov 08, 2009 9:05 am

Maybe if smokers weren't so careless with their trash like not leaving burning cigs around to start fires or not tossing them out the car window to start fires, etc, the added chem wouldn't be necessary.
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Re: Fire Safe Cigarettes

PostBy: whistlenut On: Sun Nov 08, 2009 9:42 am

Guess all the folks that 'chew' are laughing at this one......until the mouth cancer, throat cancer and related illnesses kick in. It's a habit, not a lifestyle that promotes good health. Everyone probably has some sort of 'addiction'.....even a Coal Forum qualifies.
Smokes are 7.50 a pack up here, so when you see the guy in front of you at the convenience store buying two packs, a 30 pack of Bud and a couple lottery tickets, you wonder if his family is being cared for, or just his or her habits.

If, and a 'BIG IF', do you think about how much better you could feel, and the money saved just giving up 2 packs a day: $15.00 times 365 equals $5475 ! It AIN'T rocket science boys and girls. Here in NH, the state motto is: "Live Free or Die". Think this applies to any of you guys also? No helmet law on our 'Donor-cycles' as the doc's and nurses call them.......but we are close to liberal-cusetts
That could mean 450 a month freed up for a college fund, bill paying fund, mortgage pay-down,.....and if you wanted a new vehicle, that would be a good payment on a ZERO percent ride!
Ever watch the 'oxygen caravan' at the mall....on store. At 40 you think your body won't break down, but you are in for a surprise.
Enough about smoking, hell, you probably grew up thinking that big cast iron steam boiler in the basement was a damned FURNACE! It was not, and still IS NOT!

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Re: Fire Safe Cigarettes

PostBy: Dann757 On: Sun Nov 08, 2009 9:57 am

Nicotine itself is a poison. If you have an addiction it means it's very difficult to stop harming yourself. Your brain craves more nicotine every twenty minutes.
Your sinus problems are your own body trying to tell you to stop. There's already 300 other ingredients in your smokes besides tobacco. Your body has a much harder time fighting off respiratory problems when it's already being damaged constantly. If you don't want to stop then there is nothing anybody can do for you. The government is happy to see you die young, less social security payments to you.
Google Neti Pot if you can. It's a nasal wash that is very soothing and will help your sinus problems. Try taking vitamins.
Try to take a step back and see; you have a chronic respiratory problem that is being made worse by smoking. Nobody wants to be rude to you, your health is up to you. I'm not without sin by a long shot, I put down The Marlboro Reds, I was able to stop when they made me too miserable.
Good luck.

Re: Fire Safe Cigarettes

PostBy: SMITTY On: Sun Nov 08, 2009 10:07 am

I can't pick on anyone for smoking....

I'm asthmatic & used to smoke a pack a day (and that was just cigarettes..... ;) ) until age 16 when I just about died. Woke up in the morning, rolled over & stretched & suddenly realized my airway was about 95% closed ....... not a good way to wake up! Panic city... Long story short, cops arrived first .... and I could see the look of fear in the cops faces while they were both fumbling with the oxygen tank & trying to get it on me until the ambulance got there ...... then the ambulance went by the house at about 75! :lol: I remember thinking to myself, yep - this could only happen to me! Good times! :roll:
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Re: Fire Safe Cigarettes

PostBy: charlie On: Sun Nov 08, 2009 10:49 am

So EVA is the additive that makes the Fire Safe Smokes? Yikes! Not that I'm looking for anyone to condone my habit... but sneaking in another additive is pretty nefarious. Did anyone see information about it one the front page of the newspaper or on the 5 o'clock news? Maybe I don't get out enough, but I didn't hear anything about it. I was complaining about "bad cigarettes" at the place where I buy mine, and they explained the new safety additive. The UPC code on the side of the pack has an "FSC" if it has the additive. You can't even tell part of a decent story without a cigarette going out now! I have a hard time believing this is an improvement in any way. Especially when I have to interupt a story to light up again.

It reminds me... remember when matches were blamed for starting so many fires (mostly absent-minded smokers apparently throwing them out the window??). Since we mostly switched to lighters, I wonder how much the incidents of fire has decreased?
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Re: Fire Safe Cigarettes

PostBy: coaledsweat On: Sun Nov 08, 2009 11:27 am

One thing is for sure, they taste like crap since they added that stuff.
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Re: Fire Safe Cigarettes

PostBy: Pete69 On: Sun Nov 08, 2009 11:50 am

I don't think he was complaining about how smoking tobacco made him feel. I think every smoker is aware of the ill effects of smoking, and has the right to decide to smoke or not.
Now it's a little different story when a smoker no longer has the right to decide to smoke organic tobacco, without the addition of other toxic polymers and chemicals.
Mandated smokeless cigarettes are relatively new on the scene...
As far as 7.50 a pack smokes go. Most of the cost is federal tax... For over ten years I have bought bulk tobacco and rolled my own smokes. Several months ago federal tax on cigarette tobacco rose to $24.00 a pound. Previously I used to be able to purchase tobacco for less than $24.00 a pound... Now the cost of a pound of tobacco + $24.00 tax.
Now what if they added toxic chemicals to white sugar, and started to tax it at $24.00 a pound.
I wonder what that would do to your grocery bill... And we all know that white sugar is no good for you, so who cares if they add some more toxic chemicals to it.
Now for a temporary fix to the smoking problem. I started smoking a pipe. Did away with the chemicals in the paper, and for whatever reason, pipe tobacco has not been hit with the hefty tax yet. Must be all the Harvard professors that smoke pipes...
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Re: Fire Safe Cigarettes

PostBy: Stephen in Soky On: Sun Nov 08, 2009 1:51 pm

I've injected my own for over a year now. Still do. $11.75/carton even after the 2400% tax increase. The tubes I use don't contain the fire preventative although pre-mades do here in KY. TN hasn't gone to self extinguishing yet that I'm aware of. I avoid about half the chemicals in pre-mades by making my own as well. Without even trying my consumption has gone down by around 40%. Ran out of makings & picked up 2 packs of pre-made. They made me sick for a week. I couldn't believe how they affected me as opposed to what I make at home. Tobacco on its own really isn't that bad for you, the added chemicals on the other hand........
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