32,000 Acres??? Drill'n or Killi'n ??

32,000 Acres??? Drill'n or Killi'n ??

PostBy: Poconoeagle On: Wed Nov 11, 2009 12:14 am

drillin for gas.... Our beautiful state!!!!! thoughts??

http://money.aol.com/article/pa-to-leas ... 0457?flv=1
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Re: 32,000 Acres??? Drill'n or Killi'n ??

PostBy: SMITTY On: Wed Nov 11, 2009 12:37 am

Drill baby drill! Jobs, tax revenue, & maybe they can allow some motorized recreation there too! :idea: ;)
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Re: 32,000 Acres??? Drill'n or Killi'n ??

PostBy: Poconoeagle On: Wed Nov 11, 2009 12:54 am

true but the water from such operations is Baaaaaaadd stuff..
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Re: 32,000 Acres??? Drill'n or Killi'n ??

PostBy: SMITTY On: Wed Nov 11, 2009 1:00 am

I hear ya. I figured they found a way by now to prevent that....

Well I know what would happen in this state (MA) if that were proposed! :shock: :lol:
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Re: 32,000 Acres??? Drill'n or Killi'n ??

PostBy: cArNaGe On: Wed Nov 11, 2009 4:10 am

Its BIG money.

From what I hear (which isn't much). These well drillers coming up from Texas are just amazed at how much gas they are getting from each well. They are also amazed at how little some people signed leases for. My wife's grandparents signed a few years ago for $25 or $50 and acre. A guy I work with got $5750 an acre last month.

I hear the state of PA is going to look like pot holes all over from the air.
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Re: 32,000 Acres??? Drill'n or Killi'n ??

PostBy: brckwlt On: Wed Nov 11, 2009 6:53 am

could all of the ng eventually make ng cheaper then coal? right now ng is almost twice as much for me compared to coal. i used ugi penn natural last winter. i know last year they wanted to raise thier ng prices 12%. this was during the time they started discovering all of the new sorces of ng. i was paying about 1.45 a therm when i cancled with ugi. thats after u factored in distribution and other redicolous taxes.
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Re: 32,000 Acres??? Drill'n or Killi'n ??

PostBy: Sting On: Wed Nov 11, 2009 9:20 am

I paid less than a buck a therm for 7 therms last month -- and that included the meter charge -- Factor in a decent sized load to offset the meter charge and the cost of NG is way less than what I am burning this season.


BUT I own it -- I may as well let it fall out of the space shuttle and into baby boiler to be consumed 8-)
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Re: 32,000 Acres??? Drill'n or Killi'n ??

PostBy: coaledsweat On: Wed Nov 11, 2009 9:27 am

brckwlt wrote:could all of the ng eventually make ng cheaper then coal?
If they were getting the gas out of your back yard it would probably still be more expensive for you than coal the way things seem to work. :o
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Re: 32,000 Acres??? Drill'n or Killi'n ??

PostBy: samhill On: Wed Nov 11, 2009 9:35 am

Last I heard they stopped the drilling in SW Pa because of the water discharge. It was nasty crap that was killing everything & the drilliers solution to the problem was they wanted to truck or pipe some of the water to another stream so it would be more dilute. And they wondered why they were stopped.
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Re: 32,000 Acres??? Drill'n or Killi'n ??

PostBy: gambler On: Thu Nov 12, 2009 12:48 pm

Sting wrote:I paid less than a buck a therm for 7 therms last month -- and that included the meter charge -- Factor in a decent sized load to offset the meter charge and the cost of NG is way less than what I am burning this season.


BUT I own it -- I may as well let it fall out of the space shuttle and into baby boiler to be consumed 8-)


I just got my gas bill for last month and I had heard that NG prices were down so I used the furnace for most of oct. and I used 7000 cuft and was expecting it to cost around $10 per thousand. Boy was I wrong!!!!! My gas was still $16.28 per thousand. I am being ripped off!!!
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Re: 32,000 Acres??? Drill'n or Killi'n ??

PostBy: gambler On: Thu Nov 12, 2009 12:52 pm

samhill wrote:Last I heard they stopped the drilling in SW Pa because of the water discharge. It was nasty crap that was killing everything & the drilliers solution to the problem was they wanted to truck or pipe some of the water to another stream so it would be more dilute. And they wondered why they were stopped.


I had read that it was not the drillers as first thought but discharge water from coal mining (Consol Energy) I believe. I will see if I can dig up the article.

Here it is. http://www.post-gazette.com/breaking/20 ... z0TpaaakCj
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Re: 32,000 Acres??? Drill'n or Killi'n ??

PostBy: poconoman On: Mon Nov 23, 2009 12:57 pm

Sure, drill all the way. :)
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Re: 32,000 Acres??? Drill'n or Killi'n ??

PostBy: wlape3 On: Mon Nov 23, 2009 2:08 pm

As a former PA resident I'd worry about the effect of the fracturing on the local aquifers. There are other areas in the Marcellus shale formation going through these same issues in PA and elsewhere.
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Re: 32,000 Acres??? Drill'n or Killi'n ??

PostBy: Flyer5 On: Mon Dec 14, 2009 9:15 pm

Its still domestic fuel which I like . They are drilling about a mile down the road from me . Sure I am worried what they will do to the environment but as long as they are as careful as possible ,I say drill away . There were a few incidents in the past couple of months that I have to admit make me a little nervous as far as how careful they are. But again, domestic jobs ,fuel and big economic boost to our area . Dave
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Re: 32,000 Acres??? Drill'n or Killi'n ??

PostBy: Barnzy On: Mon Dec 14, 2009 9:31 pm

Its not too bad, as long as the drillers don't ruin the enviroment up there.

That area around Montrose is beautiful. I understand its helping the local economy such as
motels, hardware stores, etc., but that it just what I hear.

Have a friend near Nicholson & his family leased out part of their hunting land.
He said if things go good, they stand to make a fortune.
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