GOP Senators Floating Term Limits Amendment

Do you support Term Limits?

Yes
23
92%
No
2
8%
 
Total votes : 25

Re: GOP Senators Floating Term Limits Amendment

PostBy: wlape3 On: Sat Nov 14, 2009 5:27 pm

Renters would qualify through their federal or state income taxes, provided they pay in on a net basis. To quote our president: "you've got to have some skin in the game..." although I'm quite sure he would not approve of my interpretation. The idea is, if people who don't pay into the pot get a say as to how that pot is spent it will likely be spent unwisely or frivolously.
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Re: GOP Senators Floating Term Limits Amendment

PostBy: jpete On: Sat Nov 14, 2009 6:54 pm

wlape3 wrote:Renters would qualify through their federal or state income taxes, provided they pay in on a net basis. To quote our president: "you've got to have some skin in the game..." although I'm quite sure he would not approve of my interpretation. The idea is, if people who don't pay into the pot get a say as to how that pot is spent it will likely be spent unwisely or frivolously.


How about anyone who derives 100% of their income from federal, state, or local government?

I don't believe anyone in those categories qualifies as a "taxpayer" since their income is taken from the public treasury.

A democracy cannot exist as a permanent form of government. It can only exist until the voters discover that they can vote themselves largesse from the public treasury. From that moment on, the majority always votes for the candidates promising the most benefits from the public treasury with the result that a democracy always collapses over loose fiscal policy, always followed by a dictatorship. The average age of the world's greatest civilizations has been 200 years.

Great nations rise and fall. The people go from bondage to spiritual truth, to great courage, from courage to liberty, from liberty to abundance, from abundance to selfishness, from selfishness to complacency, from complacency to apathy, from apathy to dependence, from dependence back again to bondage.
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Re: GOP Senators Floating Term Limits Amendment

PostBy: Berlin On: Sat Nov 14, 2009 9:06 pm

I've always been a fan of a land-owning requirement; how much you have to own or how little i'm not sure, but for as long as i can remember i've had some affinity towards the idea. whether you're rich, poor, black white or green, literate or not doesn't matter, all that matters is that you're 18 and own land.

Unlike most conservatives, I have very mixed feelings about term limits. although it might achieve ends that coincide w/ my ideology, it definately has other consequences and downfalls - some that have already been mentioned here.
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Re: GOP Senators Floating Term Limits Amendment

PostBy: jpete On: Sat Nov 14, 2009 11:26 pm

How about we start another poll on how many people owned land at 18. I suspect not many.

How about a short quiz before you vote. You should at least be able to name your members of Congress, and who the current leadership is.

We don't need another law, we need people who will be engaged and involved with their country.

When asked what sort of government we had, Franklin said "A republic, if you can keep it."

We haven't been keeping it. We haven't even been trying.
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Re: GOP Senators Floating Term Limits Amendment

PostBy: Richard S. On: Sun Nov 15, 2009 8:24 am

jpete wrote:How about we start another poll on how many people owned land at 18. I suspect not many.


You can always start your own poll when you start a new topic, you'll find a tab "Poll Creation" next to the attachment tab but it only appears when you start a new topic.
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Re: GOP Senators Floating Term Limits Amendment

PostBy: jpete On: Sun Nov 15, 2009 8:43 am

Sorry. I forgot the sarcasm tabs. I don't care all that much.....
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Re: GOP Senators Floating Term Limits Amendment

PostBy: wlape3 On: Sun Nov 15, 2009 11:43 am

jpete wrote:How about we start another poll on how many people owned land at 18. I suspect not many.


I wonder how many of us could say we were wise enough at age 18 to make a good decision in a political forum? I for one was not. I voted for Jimmy Carter!
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Re: GOP Senators Floating Term Limits Amendment

PostBy: topper On: Sun Nov 15, 2009 12:12 pm

a two term limit and a permanent exclusion from lobbying activities/support after leaving office
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Re: GOP Senators Floating Term Limits Amendment

PostBy: KLook On: Sun Nov 15, 2009 3:32 pm

Wow great thread. I agree with Berlin in part and Jpete as usual a whole bunch. I also voted for at 18 but it was against Carter and to my chagrin, I can't remember who he beat! This kind of thing is not important to young people. It was more important in rural areas where conservative youths went to church and joined the Masons and got down to life sooner then later. There has been a change in this country and it falls in line with jpete's previous post about the rise and fall of civilizations. There is no easy answer.

Kevin
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Re: GOP Senators Floating Term Limits Amendment

PostBy: wlape3 On: Sun Nov 15, 2009 11:10 pm

KLook wrote:I also voted for at 18 but it was against Carter and to my chagrin, I can't remember who he beat! Kevin


He beat Gerald Ford who would have been a much better president (IMHO).
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Re: GOP Senators Floating Term Limits Amendment

PostBy: warm now On: Tue Nov 17, 2009 4:09 am

I think term limits is only fixing half of the problem. The other half is lobbyists. Who do you think Congress represents, the people who elected them or the people who finance their campaigns?
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