nuts about lincolns

nuts about lincolns

PostBy: lincolnmania On: Tue Nov 17, 2009 4:46 am

yes i'm a lincoln maniac
got the 1986 town car in 1998
picked up a 1991 mark VII last fall
picking up a 1994 mark VIII soon
my two current lincolns are great cars, cheap to fix, reliable, comfortable, fast, decent fuel economy (towny 20 highway, mk7 25 highway)
some pics
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town car
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mk7
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Re: nuts about lincolns

PostBy: Paulie On: Tue Nov 17, 2009 8:27 am

" Son you are gonna drive me to drinkin' if you don't stop drivin' that Hot Rod Lincoln. " Saw Nick Lowe last month, the guitarist from Commander Cody opened for him. Pretty fun, and of course, the picking based Hot Rod Lincoln was his
finale. Older fords are fun and cheap to mess around with. That Dodge on the other hand.......
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Re: nuts about lincolns

PostBy: samhill On: Tue Nov 17, 2009 9:19 am

Only had two lincolns, made money on both which usually doesn`t happen on cars, can`t remember the years but the last was a versalles only made a little. Made an outragest amount on a 39 zeypher v12 got it running after it was sitting for years but I didn`t have a place to store & restore it. The guy that bought it offered me three times more than what I had in it sight unseen & gave me a big tip when he came & got it. Had a leather top & wood spoked wheels, real smooth running vehicle.
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Re: nuts about lincolns

PostBy: coaledsweat On: Tue Nov 17, 2009 9:27 am

Paulie wrote:That Dodge on the other hand.......

.......... is even cheaper to mess around with.
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Re: nuts about lincolns

PostBy: SMITTY On: Tue Nov 17, 2009 10:58 am

I have the same chassis, different body - 1986 Mercury Grand Marquis. We bought it in '02 with 64K original miles. It's now got 160K & still runs like a top. The FI system is a little quirky at idle, but other than that, we get similar mileage numbers. The only thing I absolutely HATE with this car is the AOD tranny. Overdrive is too tall, 3rd is too short - so when your at around 40 mph ( which is average around here ) the tranny hunts non-stop. Gets real aggravating! Or when you come to a hill & need a little juice, it stays in OD a bit too long for my liking & falls on it's face, then abruptly downshifts twice because I have the pedal mashed to the floor ....

Been having some electrical gremlins over the past couple years. Kept blowing fuses first for the power trunk, then the power fuel door latch, then the A/C compressor clutch, now on HI-beam the headlights will shut completely off if your on a bumpy road. All minor stuff. My wife puts 80 miles per day on this thing -- it's as reliable as a stone ax. Over the past 7 years I haven't done very many repairs.

I had her buy this one because 10 years ago I had an '86 -- same color too -- that I bought with 206K miles. I drove that car for 3 years, beat the hell out of it -- actually overheated it to the point where the heads warped & let coolant into the crankcase when I failed to bleed the cooling system after a repair, then a week later hooked up a U-Haul trailer to it with over 1000# of motorcycle, tools & everything else I owned, & made a 2,650 mile trek to AZ. The only problem I had that whole trip was when I got to AZ -- that funky-shaped heater hose broke -- so you can't just slap on a straight section of hose or it'll kink! SO I cut the hose in half & stuck a 5/8ths deep socket in there with 2 hose clamps. Got me to Phoenix & I left it that way for 3 weeks after! :lol:

The car got stolen from Phoenix in 2000, with 255,000 miles on the clock. Didn't see it for a year. Then my parents get a phone call in MA that they found my car in Bell, CA!By that time I was living in Northern CA, SO I took a bus from Oakland to East LA at 3:30 AM -- that was fun! Why go to Mexico! :lol:

Had to pick it up from an impound yard. So you know what that means ..... yep, had to buy the car again! $500 in impound fees. So the guy comes wheelin' out of the gates in my Merc -- covered with dust, GIGANTIC rearview mirror installed, some stupid bead seat cover, another stupid steering wheel cover, & piles of trash & dried up food all over the interior. Looks like a whole family of them was living in it! So he comes out with the door open & says: DON'T LET IT STALL while holding his foot on the gas to keep it running. Battery was smoked. SO I hopped in & got the hell out of Dodge!! Thru all the worst ghettos in the country. Made it to I-10, then to I-5 north. While climbing that mountain outside of LA I decided to stop for a death burger at Mc Swill ..... I got off the highway & as soon as I got close to the end of the downhill ramp, the thing stalls on me! WTF! Not long after a landscaping guy stops & asks if I need a push ... I say yeah ... so he gets back in his truck & orders his 15 illegal immigrants out to push me! :lol: :lol: I couldn't write this stuff! So I get to the side of the road, & now have to walk about a mile to get a new battery ..... & carry that son of a bitch back .... uuugggh.

Long story short I made it back, spend 4 hours detailing the car, then sold it for $1300! 8-) I got my $500 back, plus $800 for gas to drive my '72 El Camino I bought in AZ for $500 back to this hellhole!
SMITTY
 
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Re: nuts about lincolns

PostBy: lincolnmania On: Tue Nov 17, 2009 11:33 am

yes the panther chassis is a great automobile! shame that ford is giving it the axe in 2011 :( i always wanted a brand new one someday, but that isnt going to happen now
i also own a 89 crown victoria and just got a 92 grand marquis given to me......roomates have 88 towny, 90 vic, 86 vic, 88 vic.
found a 87 townie for a friend from a member here in ny about 2 yrs ago.......still runs like a champ
oh i forgot to mention that my town car has a 5.0 ho with ported heads that i installed in 2004.......my crown victoria also has a stock 5.0 ho that i installed in 2006

smitty: check out my forum www.grandmarq.net
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Re: nuts about lincolns

PostBy: SMITTY On: Tue Nov 17, 2009 11:37 am

Great site there!

Is it possible to eliminate the FI system on these & install a carb/intake manifold setup? Or will the ignition system get confused?
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Re: nuts about lincolns

PostBy: lincolnmania On: Tue Nov 17, 2009 9:59 pm

yes it can be converted to carb, but why? the 86 has sefi........very easy to keep fixed and reliable......but if you want to carb it, it is not hard........you need to convert the ignition over to duraspark, and remove the fuel pump in the tank and either use a mechanical fuel pump or a low pressure electric pump.
past two weeks been trying to make a 84 grand marquis run right (has cfi.....looks like a carb with two injectors in it) tried everything, still wont run right.......doing a sefi conversion this weekend
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Re: nuts about lincolns

PostBy: SMITTY On: Wed Nov 18, 2009 1:11 am

While it is reliable, the erratic idle I get with it is annoying. At least with a carb I know I can tune it out if needed. Plus if I ever decide to get a little more juice out of the motor, the carb will supply alot more fuel. 8-)

I threw my scan tool on it one time & got like 5 codes for issues completely unrelated to performance - all basically having to do with emissions. I couldn't care less about emissions! :lol:
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Re: nuts about lincolns

PostBy: lincolnmania On: Wed Nov 18, 2009 2:36 am

sounds like it needs an iac (idle air controller) also possible that it has some vacuum leaks......the vacuum hoses under the upper intake turn to goo......also if the vac line for the map sensor gets sucked shut it will run weird
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Re: nuts about lincolns

PostBy: Poconoeagle On: Wed Nov 18, 2009 8:53 am

douching the iac motor and throttle body does wonders. we us to sell a B&G service ...Induction Cleaning Service. the "t" shaped hose near the pass side rear of the intake gets soft and creats vac leak. biggest prob with the ford motor for decades has been the formation of sludge caused by too infrequent oil changes and or cheaper oil quality but mostly it is the crank vent system of which by design has hot spots in the upper area and cooks Dinasour oil. the pcv valve in the later model 4.6 shows this as well as the insane circular screen pressed in the manifold under the pcv requiring a small slide hammer and screw to remove it. late 80's lincolns and 90's were such sludgemachines the oil light would come on due to the pump pick up screen being clogged with it.

A german fellow in fla came up with a process called Enginuity where by he replaced the oil filter and pressure sending unit and flushed the engine with solvent and out came a black slurry of "quaker state".....his biggest selling point was that he had a boroscope that he shoved on the oil drain hole and let you look on a monitor at the before and after. sad thing is it knocked too much crap loose and the high milage fords would start to knock in a few days as they were already worn out and just not knocking yet. most folks with the oil lite blinking on at stop lites or decel tried this answer but lost.

Castrol GTX 20-50 every 3 k or 3 mos is the answer but amsoil synthetic is even better.

same issue in the intake system due to it being on the top of the motor and after shut down the cooking of the hydrocarbons is increased due to convection effect. every thing from ECC-3, 4, dura spark, ect did work well if matained. nobody knew how in the early days and thus injection got a bad rap. early 40's Kuglefisher direct high pressure injection from the germans was a huge foward move for normal aspriation engines but also had its issues with the fuel itself...

hydrogen peroxide and ceramic cranks and pistons may be the answer???? :D :lol: 8-)
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Re: nuts about lincolns

PostBy: SMITTY On: Wed Nov 18, 2009 12:28 pm

I actually bought a IAC a few years back spankin' new at the Ford dealer - because I had that problem with my first Marquis. This time it helped, but didn't cure it. I took the upper intake off around that time so I could fix that passenger side valve cover gasket ... & while it was off I cleaned all the carbon & crap out of the whole upper plenum.

I'll have to check that hose - I don't remember it's condition, but this car was in above average shape. Most of the rubber parts were still intact. I'll have to go through it over the winter. I run 20W-50 until I park it for the winter - then I go to 10W-30 or 40 ... because in the spring after it's sat , when you fire it up there's no oil anywhere ... so it raps like a bastard for several seconds. I found with the lighter oil it raps only for a few seconds. One time I left straight 30W oil in there - I thought the motor was gonna be junk that spring ........ but she lives on! 8-)

I'd run Amsoil in there (I'm a dealer) but it'll leak out of everywhere! Got a few bad seals.... :lol:
SMITTY
 
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Re: nuts about lincolns

PostBy: lincolnmania On: Wed Nov 18, 2009 12:44 pm

send it down to pa for a ho conversion, wide ratio aod, big brakes and rear discs :D i'll fill the trunk with coal for you :lol:
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Re: nuts about lincolns

PostBy: SMITTY On: Wed Nov 18, 2009 12:48 pm

Now that would make the car FUN! :up:

If this motor ever lets go, I'll probably try to squeeze a 351 in there ... shouldn't have a fitment problem as the police package Crown's came with them.

I'll have to get crackin' on the rear suspension before I take you up on the coal offer -- no air-ride on this one! :lol: 8-)
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Re: nuts about lincolns

PostBy: lincolnmania On: Wed Nov 18, 2009 1:22 pm

302 ho is plenty.
my townie runs 15.91 at 88 mph (stock ho with thumper heads)
my vic runs 16.30 at 87 mph (160k low output shortblock with used ho heads, cam computer, upper intake and throttle body.......all free too!)
my mk7 runs 16.08 at 87 mph (stock untouched 135k)
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