American Conservative on the Palin Phenomona

Re: American Conservative on the Palin Phenomona

PostBy: tvb On: Fri Nov 20, 2009 10:14 pm

Oh, she's pissed about the image they chose for their cover:
http://blog.newsweek.com/blogs/thegaggle/archive/2009/11/17/official-statement-on-newsweek-s-sarah-palin-cover.aspx
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It's an image she posed for.

I'd upload but it's likely to violate Richard's copyright policy.

It's kinda like Carrie Prejean being upset that her teenage *censored* debut became public.
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Re: American Conservative on the Palin Phenomona

PostBy: spc On: Fri Nov 20, 2009 10:27 pm

tvb wrote:I'd upload but it's likely to violate Richard's copyright policy.

Why not, Newsweek did.

"The photos from that shoot are still under a one-year embargo, and Runner's World did not provide Newsweek with its cover image."

http://www.runnersworld.com/photo/sarahpalin/home.html
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Re: American Conservative on the Palin Phenomona

PostBy: tvb On: Fri Nov 20, 2009 10:35 pm

I suppose Ms. Palin could sue the agency that sold the photo but from what I'm reading, when interest in the image came from news outlets last summer, Runner's World was a willing participant provided they were given credit.

http://www.dailyfinance.com/2009/11/18/ ... -newsweek/

I'd be really surprised if Newsweek didn't have an airtight agreement on the photo usage.

It still doesn't explain why she even posed like that in the first place if she has further political aspirations.
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Re: American Conservative on the Palin Phenomona

PostBy: tvb On: Fri Nov 20, 2009 10:42 pm

Plus, beyond the photo rights and usage rights, what gives with her dunning the flag like that? Totally against flag protocol:

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/United_States_Flag_Code

The flag should never be drawn back or bunched up in any way.


The flag should never be used for any advertising purpose.


The flag should never touch anything beneath it.


The flag should always be permitted to fall freely


When on display, the flag is accorded the place of honor, always positioned to its own right. Place it to the right of the speaker or staging area or sanctuary.


I suppose it's okay to violate flag protocol when one is being rogue-ish.

Edit: Ooops ... almost forgot this one:
The flag should not be used as "wearing apparel, bedding, or drapery",[1] or for covering a speaker's desk, draping a platform, or for any decoration in general (exception for coffins). Bunting of blue, white and red stripes is available for these purposes. The blue stripe of the bunting should be on the top.
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Re: American Conservative on the Palin Phenomona

PostBy: mikeandgerry On: Sat Nov 21, 2009 2:53 am

In another 6-12 months Sarah Palin will be relegated to total obscurity. She is out of office and her book will be out of steam. The media has annilated her. She is a lightning rod for media criticism; If she rejuvenates her candidacy she'll be attacked again and again because she is an easy target. She remains lousy on her feet as she has demonstrated in interview after interview. The party will dump her like garbage in favor of a moderate.
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Re: American Conservative on the Palin Phenomona

PostBy: ErikLaurence On: Sat Nov 21, 2009 7:55 am

mikeandgerry wrote:In another 6-12 months Sarah Palin will be relegated to total obscurity. She is out of office and her book will be out of steam. The media has annilated her. She is a lightning rod for media criticism; If she rejuvenates her candidacy she'll be attacked again and again because she is an easy target. She remains lousy on her feet as she has demonstrated in interview after interview. The party will dump her like garbage in favor of a moderate.



I think her "use by" date is after the 2012 primaries.

The media cares about ratings far more than political philosophy, if they were trying to minimize her, they wouldn't cover her. If she gets viewers then they'll cover her. I do agree that she will not have the support of the party establishment, but she really does not care. After all, her book is called Going Rouge. She will continue to have the support of talk radio. Limbaugh, Levin, Beck et al, don't really care about winning in 2012, they just want the *censored* to be stirred so lots of people listen. I think she will do OK is some states in the primaries. I think you will have a significant "operation chaos" style movement within the hard left who want to keep her candidacy alive as long as possible. I don't think she'll be able to raise money on the par with Mitt Romney. I also doubt her fiscal conservative credentials will stand up to much scrutiny.

If she runs we're going to see the party split with the fiscal conservatives supporting Romney and the evangelical right (many of whom think Mormons are apostates) supporting Palin. If Huckabee comes in then Palin is in real trouble, because the evangelical vote with be split.



All that said. I think there's a big chance that she has no interest in running. She quit the Governors job the week she cashed the million dollar advance check from her book. She's out of public disclosure requirements. She can make as much money as she likes off her 20% base and never have to tell a soul.
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Re: American Conservative on the Palin Phenomona

PostBy: Blackdiamonddoug On: Sat Nov 21, 2009 8:52 am

I voted for Palin and will continue to vote for her as long as she is a running
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Re: American Conservative on the Palin Phenomona

PostBy: Hybrid Guy On: Sat Nov 21, 2009 9:40 am

coaledsweat wrote:
ErikLaurence wrote:
SMITTY wrote:I know one thing is certain - she ran AK just fine. Even let the oil profit checks get to their residents.



You realize the state owning a resource and distributing checks from the revenues is the textbook definition of socialism.

You need a new textbook, the one your using has blinders on it.


Gee, there's lot's of drilling in NEPA for natural gas. Does that mean the state of Pennsylvania will distribute an profits from wells drilled on state lands? I doubt it...

And, what was Sarah doing/saying when the "bridge to nowhere" fiasco was going on? Just curious.
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Re: American Conservative on the Palin Phenomona

PostBy: SMITTY On: Sat Nov 21, 2009 10:55 am

Hybrid Guy wrote:Gee, there's lot's of drilling in NEPA for natural gas. Does that mean the state of Pennsylvania will distribute an profits from wells drilled on state lands? I doubt it...

That's because Republicans aren't running the show. :idea: Dems are wasting it , like they do in every state ... and now in D.C. too.

ErikLaurence wrote:and the evangelical right (many of whom think Mormons are apostates) supporting Palin

I'm not what you would call "religious" in any way, shape, or form. I haven't set foot in a church since my wife's grandmother died last year, and before that, when one of my buddies got married back in '99. I believe in God & I respect religious folks -- if you believe so heavily in something that it makes you do GOOD, & be a decent person to others, & actually give a crap about them, then I respect that -- & others should too regardless if they believe or not!

It just amazes me how the left absolutely hates this woman & rips on her every chance they get. Just goes to show how spoiled & soft our society has become. :sick:
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Re: American Conservative on the Palin Phenomona

PostBy: stockingfull On: Sat Nov 21, 2009 11:14 am

Palin is a media phenomenon, plain and simple. She's easy on the eyes and reliable for a quick headline (usually for the wrong reason). She's been, and being, covered for all the same reasons fires or train wrecks are covered. Easy, sensational story.
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Re: American Conservative on the Palin Phenomona

PostBy: coaledsweat On: Sat Nov 21, 2009 11:33 am

stockingfull wrote:Palin is a media phenomenon, plain and simple. She's easy on the eyes and reliable for a quick headline (usually for the wrong reason). She's been, and being, covered for all the same reasons fires or train wrecks are covered. Easy, sensational story.

Isn't that how we managed to wind up with the one we have running the show now?
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Re: American Conservative on the Palin Phenomona

PostBy: stockingfull On: Sat Nov 21, 2009 12:15 pm

coaledsweat wrote:
stockingfull wrote:Palin is a media phenomenon, plain and simple. She's easy on the eyes and reliable for a quick headline (usually for the wrong reason). She's been, and being, covered for all the same reasons fires or train wrecks are covered. Easy, sensational story.

Isn't that how we managed to wind up with the one we have running the show now?

You may think so, but you'd be wrong. Columbia and Prez of the Harvard Law Review ain't chopped liver to begin with (can you do better?). Constitutional law prof at U. Chicago, actually elected to and served as both an Illinois state and U.S. Senator and, perhaps most importantly in this context, designed and implemented the plan for his undeniably successful presidential campaign (which included endless media interviews, none of which made headlines for his inability to identify the things he reads).

Contrast Sarah. Lessee, how many community colleges was that? Mayor of Wasilla (pop abt 10,000). Elected Gov of AK in 2006 with 115,000 votes (about half needed to win most Congressional races). Still complaining about her 2008 campaign "handlers," even to the point of the naming of her book. Clearly couldn't handle interviews with Couric and Gibson, apparently couldn't handle the "rigors" of being first-term Gov of AK. Oh, and hockey mom.

But don't get me wrong: we all love Sarah. Like a chemical spill.
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Re: American Conservative on the Palin Phenomona

PostBy: ErikLaurence On: Sat Nov 21, 2009 12:37 pm

You forgot when she was a local sports news reader in Alaska.

http://www.nbcnews.com/id/21134540/vp/26461777#26461777

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Let's also not forget, she was Miss Wasilla.

http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/picture ... -mate.html
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Re: American Conservative on the Palin Phenomona

PostBy: rberq On: Sat Nov 21, 2009 2:20 pm

SMITTY wrote:It just amazes me how the left absolutely hates this woman ...

It's not just the left, it's a big percentage of Republicans. No matter how much we admire (or not) her beliefs and her bod; no matter how sensible (or not) we think she is; the fact remains that she is such an obvious lightweight it is frightening to think of entrusting her with the presidency.
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Re: American Conservative on the Palin Phenomona

PostBy: Black_And_Blue On: Sat Nov 21, 2009 7:17 pm

NEW YORK (AP) - "Going Rogue" is going big.

Publisher HarperCollins said Friday that Sarah Palin's memoir sold 300,000 copies its first day, among the best openings ever for a nonfiction book. In 2004, Bill Clinton's "My Life" debuted with sales of 400,000 copies. The year before, Hillary Rodham Clinton's "Living History" started at 200,000.

"Going Rogue" was released this week and its print run already has been increased from 1.5 million copies to 2.5 million, HarperCollins announced Friday. Palin, the former Alaska governor and GOP vice presidential candidate, is in the midst of a nationwide promotional tour.


http://apnews.myway.com/article/20091120/D9C3IM400.html
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