American Conservative on the Palin Phenomona

Re: American Conservative on the Palin Phenomona

PostBy: Duengeon master On: Sat Nov 21, 2009 8:05 pm

Blackdiamonddoug wrote:I voted for Palin and will continue to vote for her as long as she is a running
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I did not jump on the Palin bandwagon, I hitched the horse to the wagon before it left the barn. I heard several interviews with Sarah way back in Jan. '08 long before Mc Cain was interested in her. back then from what I heard of her,(You cant see a face on radio) not having ANY clue of what she looked like I was very impressed with what she had to say. If Palin starts an exploratory committee I will send the campaign my resume.
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Re: American Conservative on the Palin Phenomona

PostBy: mikeandgerry On: Sun Nov 22, 2009 12:31 pm

ErikLaurence wrote:The media cares about ratings far more than political philosophy, if they were trying to minimize her, they wouldn't cover her.


That is no longer true. Newspapers and television are both struggling to fight the popularity of Fox and other conservative sources.

From Conservapedia:

Most Americans consider Fox News very much part of the Mainstream Media, as, according to ratings organisation Nielsen:

Fox News has 9 of the 10 most viewed shows on Cable TV News (as of Dec 2006)
Fox News mean prime-time viewing figures are triple that of MSNBC, and double that of CNN, and exceed the total ratings of CNN, MSNBC and CNBC combined.
"In 2006, more than half the people watching cable news were watching Fox News" [3]


If popularity were the sole criterion as you suggest, then the legacy media would be shifting right, would they not? I can attest that Newsweek under the editing of Jon Meacham has gotten so biased in its presentation of factual information that I can no longer consider them an objective source.
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Re: American Conservative on the Palin Phenomona

PostBy: mikeandgerry On: Sun Nov 22, 2009 12:40 pm

stockingfull wrote: Columbia and Prez of the Harvard Law Review ain't chopped liver to begin with (can you do better?). Constitutional law prof at U. Chicago, actually elected to and served as both an Illinois state and U.S. Senator and, perhaps most importantly in this context, designed and implemented the plan for his undeniably successful presidential campaign (which included endless media interviews, none of which made headlines for his inability to identify the things he reads).

Contrast Sarah. Lessee, how many community colleges was that? Mayor of Wasilla (pop abt 10,000). Elected Gov of AK in 2006 with 115,000 votes (about half needed to win most Congressional races). Still complaining about her 2008 campaign "handlers," even to the point of the naming of her book. Clearly couldn't handle interviews with Couric and Gibson, apparently couldn't handle the "rigors" of being first-term Gov of AK. Oh, and hockey mom.



Geez Jon, reading your comment makes me think you prefer monarchy to democracy. Isn't popularity what a democracy is all about?

As I recall, for all the "interviews" that Obama was given, he never had to bat against a hardball pitched fast and, if he did, it was edited out in a hurry. Even Hillary complained.
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Re: American Conservative on the Palin Phenomona

PostBy: stockingfull On: Sun Nov 22, 2009 10:51 pm

Naw, Mike, it's just the opposite, actually. In a monarchy, you're stuck with the ruling class, even when they're underachievers, like our last POTUS. In this case, President Obama made the most of his opportunities and got an education which indeed was fit for a monarch. And, far from an underachieving monarch's performance, he was invited to the Harvard Law Review (membership of which alone is a noteworthy achievement), then elected President of the Law Review by his peers.

You're a history jock, Mike, can you even name the last President with so distinguished an educational career?

So actually, I prefer democracy, which in this case means the option to pick the smarter candidate over the dumber one. "Know-nothing-ism" has fallen out of fashion after the last crew, don'tchaknow? 8-)
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Re: American Conservative on the Palin Phenomona

PostBy: coaledsweat On: Sun Nov 22, 2009 11:55 pm

stockingfull wrote:And, far from an underachieving monarch's performance, he was invited to the Harvard Law Review (membership of which alone is a noteworthy achievement), then elected President of the Law Review by his peers.

Being invited and elected is not based on performance, that is pretty obvious at this point.
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Re: American Conservative on the Palin Phenomona

PostBy: mikeandgerry On: Mon Nov 23, 2009 3:19 am

stockingfull wrote:Naw, Mike, it's just the opposite, actually. In a monarchy, you're stuck with the ruling class, even when they're underachievers, like our last POTUS. In this case, President Obama made the most of his opportunities and got an education which indeed was fit for a monarch. And, far from an underachieving monarch's performance, he was invited to the Harvard Law Review (membership of which alone is a noteworthy achievement), then elected President of the Law Review by his peers.

You're a history jock, Mike, can you even name the last President with so distinguished an educational career?

So actually, I prefer democracy, which in this case means the option to pick the smarter candidate over the dumber one. "Know-nothing-ism" has fallen out of fashion after the last crew, don'tchaknow? 8-)


You are delusional if you think Obama achieved anything significant prior to his election to the US Senate. His "credentials" were mainly academic and rather "ho hum'. Harvard ain't nuthin' much these days. As I recall, Georgie went to Yale and you all said he was just another moron. Right?

Obama's education, like his rise to the presidency, was very much planned, scripted and guarded by his liberal mentors in order to exploit an African American for political purposes. I also remember the gushing about him in 2004 by the liberal anchors on election night and he was a complete unknown on the national scene but the left wingers knew him well. The name dropping of colleges and associates abounded. He was of a particular liberal pedigree it seemed--an heir to the throne.

If you are such a history buff, cite a challenging interview that Obama did prior to the election; One where he had to answer tough and unscripted questions and where he really was original and substantial. He doesn't even have that to his credit. Also, He didn't even have the guts to face Fox. The reason he got elected was a George Bush backlash and good grooming, nothing more. If you think you voted for the smartest person, the joke's on you. He was never tested.

The best educated president was Abraham Lincoln. He wasn't indoctrinated, selected or molded. Fortunately for Barack, he didn't go to Harvard.
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Re: American Conservative on the Palin Phenomona

PostBy: ErikLaurence On: Mon Nov 23, 2009 7:24 am

mikeandgerry wrote:
If you are such a history buff, cite a challenging interview that Obama did prior to the election; One where he had to answer tough and unscripted questions and where he really was original and substantial. He doesn't even have that to his credit. Also, He didn't even have the guts to face Fox.





When will Palin get interviewed by Olbermann?
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Re: American Conservative on the Palin Phenomona

PostBy: stockingfull On: Mon Nov 23, 2009 8:37 am

Thanks, Erik, obviously another puff-ball interview, with all those scripted, edited questions for "The Chosen One" ....

I think I see "Crow" on the breakfast menu, you know, for Mikie's "guts."

:mrgreen: :nana:
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Re: American Conservative on the Palin Phenomona

PostBy: SMITTY On: Mon Nov 23, 2009 9:47 am

Yeah real tough questions there .... :roll:

Just because O'Reilly is a conservative doesn't automatically make the questions "tough". I, and many others think he went soft on that interview & were disappointed.
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Re: American Conservative on the Palin Phenomona

PostBy: stockingfull On: Mon Nov 23, 2009 10:14 am

Yeah, right. None of those questions about the Middle East was as tough as "What do you read?" :roll:

Face it: Palin's a whiner.

http://trueslant.com/matttaibbi/2009/11/20/sarah-palin-wwe-star/
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Re: American Conservative on the Palin Phenomona

PostBy: SMITTY On: Mon Nov 23, 2009 10:20 am

But she's not in charge of an entire nation.....
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Re: American Conservative on the Palin Phenomona

PostBy: stockingfull On: Mon Nov 23, 2009 10:26 am

SMITTY wrote:But she's not in charge of an entire nation.....

Did you see SNL or just have a premonition?


http://rawstory.com/2009/11/palin-2012-disaster-movie/
This link is broken, either the page no longer exists or there is some other issue like a typo.
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Re: American Conservative on the Palin Phenomona

PostBy: SMITTY On: Mon Nov 23, 2009 10:43 am

So now the left has resorted to "could-have, would-have" scare-tactics just to make sure she doesn't get elected in '12 .... :roll:

My point was, not one person I know of knew who Obama was before late '08 - most didn't. Now this jackass is running an entire country!! :shock: He was a nobody - a senator from the most corrupt state in the nation without a clue. (although MA is catching up) His policies & actions abroad reflect that inexperience.

At least Palin has run a STATE, not an ACORN BRANCH! :lol:

The left can paint all the gloom & doom they want. Palin would make an EXCELLENT president. We need to toughen up as a nation before the rest of the world begins to use us as a doormat!
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Re: American Conservative on the Palin Phenomona

PostBy: ErikLaurence On: Mon Nov 23, 2009 10:52 am

SMITTY wrote:
The left can paint all the gloom & doom they want. Palin would make an EXCELLENT president. We need to toughen up as a nation before the rest of the world begins to use us as a doormat!



She'd do what she did in Alaska. She'd raise taxes on profitable industries.

http://seattletimes.com/html/localnews/ ... tax07.html

Then she'd spread that wealth around to all the citizens.

She talks a good game but she is fiscal policy wise, a demonstrated socialist.
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Re: American Conservative on the Palin Phenomona

PostBy: SMITTY On: Mon Nov 23, 2009 10:58 am

That's exactly what Obama is doing now ........

The only difference is, we're seeing INCREASED TAXES across the board - NOT a $3,200 total REFUND from the gov't. :idea:
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