US Hot Blast Furnace 1557

 
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Post by matotunka » Sun. Jan. 25, 2009 8:43 pm

We have a Hitzer #82 wood and coal stove and it is great. Heats our whole house for less than gas or electricity. We use mainly wood and little coal. Couldn't have a better stove and don't have to go outside to load it. The Amish know what they are doing.


 
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Post by matotunka » Sun. Jan. 25, 2009 8:43 pm

We have a Hitzer #82 wood and coal stove and it is great. Heats our whole house for less than gas or electricity. We use mainly wood and little coal. Couldn't have a better stove and don't have to go outside to load it. The Amish know what they are doing. :D

 
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Post by DOUG » Sun. Jan. 25, 2009 9:08 pm

I don't know how I missed this post. I'm usually up on all the U.S.Stove posts. I have to agree that you will be much happier with the Hitzer 82 furnace than the 1557. You know after studying the Hitzer 82 furnace, it sure resembles an old Riteway Stove design. I wonder if it's the same one they used to produce? Anyway, I know it's a very well constructed unit and should provide you many years of trouble free service. I almost bought one before I ended up with a U.S.Stove Clayton. You'll have to post some more pictures of your stove in operation and give us some data on how well and how long it burns on different fuel, wood, anthracite in different sizes, relating to the heat demand. Thanks, DOUG

 
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Post by gerard » Sun. Jan. 25, 2009 9:10 pm

Yukon makes dual fuel furnaces that burn wood/coal and/or oil/gas. I have one and this is my first season on coal and am very happy with it. It's a forced air so the fan comes on with a thermostat in the plenum. When it calls for heat the damper opens automatically from the thermostat. I'm heating about 3000sq ft, average insulation, some newer windows, some older single glaze. House is two story with furnace in basement. I tend to the stove twice a day. Takes about 5 minutes to dump the ashes, shake down, and load new coal (about 5 shovel fulls per load, depending on temps). Furnace keeps up just fine with outside temps down to 0deg f.

 
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Post by DOUG » Sun. Jan. 25, 2009 9:25 pm

Hey, gerard. I just checked out their web site. Pretty impressive unit. Got any pictures of it in operation. Maybe start a new post on the subject so others can benefit also in trying to make the best educated decision on what options are available and how well they work. I'm interested to see it work and I'm sure others are too.

Don't want to change the thread topic, U.S.Stove Hot Blast Furnace 1557. Any U.S.Stove 1557 owners with pictures of theirs in operation and tips on firing their 1557 unit?

I'm still waiting for some more updated pictures of the guy that put a glass window in his fire door. How is the glass holding up? Still staying clean?

What about an update on the combustion blower fan in the ash door project of his 1557? Let's have some reports. Thanks, :idea: :) DOUG

 
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Post by john bronson » Thu. Oct. 15, 2009 5:06 pm

Us stove hotblast 1557m.This design is very Poor ,quality is low, very low standard, end result piece of junk!!! I got new in 2008 used one year.air draft control broke first week. it is made with a thin low grade bolt. This junk cannot be made in the USA. it is like assemble in the USA to me . 1100sf home cold in back bed room. ‘’Cannot over fire it” .hard ware is low POOR grade .ALSO bad draft CAN NOT ADJUST IT GOOD , ash pan TO SMALL. to hard to clean ash out of furnace. after you pry and shake to get ash pan out . even if you empty it after ever firing, that is bull *censored*. it is to small to get into, also FIRE brick NO GOOD CHEAP LIKE THE REST OF THE STOVE.THE FIRE BOX is warped !!! no I did not over fire it..it IS CHEAP LOW GRADE STEEL 7 GAGE that is 3/16 !!! I need my ass kick for buying this junk !!!! THE US STOVE HOT BLAST!!!!!. WHAT A BAD JOKE. I have been burning coal/wood for 35 years I have a nice one in my garage I got in 2002 .and I should have got the same for the house, but home ????? did not have one in the summer. That is when I do my work .I can not install it in the winter time to cold for me.. I hope I can sale this us hotblast 1557m to some one. I paid $1300.00 For it. and $119.23 FOR A LIMITED CONTROL .plus tax. I have used it one year. I hope I can get at least get $600.00 for it,but I will take best offer if I had to. I hope I do not lose to much money for being so stupid.. “THE STUPTID NEITHER FORGIVE NOR FORGET ‘’

 
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Post by gitrdonecoal » Fri. Oct. 16, 2009 4:56 pm

hey john, sorry to hear about your bad experience. I have the same stove, bought it last year. I used to be a member to this site, but was inactive too long, oops. I joined back up to help othet hotblast owners who have problems, like I did. I can honestly say I love this unit and got it to burn coal great, thanks to the help from nepa. it is a learning curve, of course to get this thing to burn it, but once you learn it it aint that bad. I have done a few things to it.
1. I used furnace cement to seal off the load door vent and to seal off the "2 holes" on the front face plate. (sorry I cant explain better, im getting a blackberry soon, so pics soon)
2. I cut the back of the ash pan so when I slide the ash pan into the furnace I can scoop the ashes that fall into the back.
3. by drilling and tapping the female end of the shaker grate, I put two bolts into it, making the two shaker grates work as one, making the ashes fall out better.
4. after shaking, I slice between the grate and the grate holder to make the ashes fall out better and get a better draft, make air come in through the coals better, ect.

any questions that people may have feel free to get ahold of me, post a reply, or pm me.
John :shifty:


 
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Post by no74falcon » Sat. Jan. 02, 2010 8:25 pm

Hi everyone. Really glad I found this forum as I have just purchased a new Hitzer 82FA in October and am starting to get used to it. I have been burning wood mostly but am slowly figuring out the coal burning too. I first looked at the 1557m before I saw the Hitzer and decided to go with the 82FA instead. I am so glad I did! I am in central NY and while I only have a 1250 sq ft house, the insulation is horrible. Tonight it is 6 degrees outside and I have the house at a comfortable 91... :)

 
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Post by gitrdonecoal » Sun. Jan. 03, 2010 9:23 am

wow it seems as though everyone hates these US stoves. I could not be happier with mine

 
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Post by no74falcon » Sun. Jan. 03, 2010 9:34 am

Gitrdonecoal, I certainly wasn't implying that I hate the US Stove, I was just saying that after reading some posts, not only on this thread , but on the whole board, I am very happy I went with my Hitzer. I have a lot to learn about burning coal in mine yet but I am finding it a very easy learning curve, especially with what I have learned on here. I will admit, I have a neighbor on the other side of the hill that purchased a 1557M a couple years ago and is very jealous of my Hitzer.

 
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Post by gitrdonecoal » Sun. Jan. 03, 2010 9:46 am

o no, not implying anything. I had to do a few things to get it going correctly, nothing expensive, actually free. but for 1150 bucks, ya really cant go wrong. and it burns wood too, not that I enjoy cutting and splitting and stacking, but im a contractor, so it gives me something to do in the slow winter months lol. if your buddy is still having problems with it have him read the US stove fixes here thread. there I spelled out all the tips I learned and modifications. how much did your hitzer 82 cost?

 
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Post by no74falcon » Sun. Jan. 03, 2010 12:52 pm

Im very upset! I was logged in and made a very lengthy reply and when I went to post the reply, the site had logged me out and I lost the whole post. :mad: Anyway, gonna shorten it up this time. I paid $1500 for my Hitzer, with the blower, optional filter housing, and 1/4 ton of coal. The 1557M has gone up to $1250 at TSC. I had planned on burning wood but with the coal they gave me, I am learning and will probably burn a lot more in the future. I looked at both stoves very closely before I made a decision and the Hitzer is built a lot heavier.

 
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Post by tjsfalcon » Sun. Feb. 01, 2015 9:23 am

gitrdonecoal wrote:hey john, sorry to hear about your bad experience. I have the same stove, bought it last year. I used to be a member to this site, but was inactive too long, oops. I joined back up to help othet hotblast owners who have problems, like I did. I can honestly say I love this unit and got it to burn coal great, thanks to the help from nepa. it is a learning curve, of course to get this thing to burn it, but once you learn it it aint that bad. I have done a few things to it.
1. I used furnace cement to seal off the load door vent and to seal off the "2 holes" on the front face plate. (sorry I cant explain better, im getting a blackberry soon, so pics soon)
2. I cut the back of the ash pan so when I slide the ash pan into the furnace I can scoop the ashes that fall into the back.
3. by drilling and tapping the female end of the shaker grate, I put two bolts into it, making the two shaker grates work as one, making the ashes fall out better.
4. after shaking, I slice between the grate and the grate holder to make the ashes fall out better and get a better draft, make air come in through the coals better, ect.

any questions that people may have feel free to get ahold of me, post a reply, or pm me.
John :shifty:
Hi Gitrdonecoal,
I have had my US Hot Blast Furnace 1557M for a few years now. Been a pretty good with the exception of a blower going out the second year. I am trying my hand at burning coal this year, trying to get a longer burn time out of the stove. I have only been burning coal for a 4 days so far with minimal luck. :) I have been reading a LOT about how coal is much different, would rather have bottom air then top. I see where you said you sealed the door vents on your 1557M when you are burning coal. I notice the vent doesn't close all the way. Are you able to burn wood in the spring and fall with the vents plugged?? Would it be better to block them so I could open them back up?? I have learned a lot about coal burning in the last few days. Keep a good bed of Hot coals, load small amounts at a time, don't fiddle with it, poke it and shake it only a couple times a day. Any new and improved tips would be Greatly Appreciated.

Thanx, Doug

 
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Post by Lightning » Sun. Feb. 01, 2015 9:39 am

Hi Doug.. check the link in my signature for information about blocking the primary air bypasses to successfully burn anthracite in your furnace. It will make a world of difference. :)

 
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Post by Lightning » Sun. Feb. 01, 2015 11:16 am

Geez, I just read thru this thread and find it no wonder why they get a bad wrap. Maybe they are junk, I haven't used anything else to compare them to :lol: At any rate, we got no complaints when it's 75 in my 2400 sq ft house and -5 outside. It's easy to make these produce plenty of heat.


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