coal mine explosion in China

coal mine explosion in China

PostBy: Poconoeagle On: Sat Nov 21, 2009 9:00 pm

dang, sounds bad. how sad for those famlies of the lost souls...


http://news.aol.com/article/china-coal-mine-blast-kills-at-least-42/778227
This link is broken, either the page no longer exists or there is some other issue like a typo.
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Re: coal mine explosion in China

PostBy: Duengeon master On: Sat Nov 21, 2009 9:08 pm

That is a government owned mine. Unfortunately the Chinese don't treat their people the way we do. I am sure more will die. GOD bless
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Re: coal mine explosion in China

PostBy: Poconoeagle On: Sat Nov 21, 2009 9:10 pm

yes. a while back i thought i read like 3ooo mine accidents in china/yr!!

money money money .... its a honey,,,,,, in a rich mans world.......abba
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Re: coal mine explosion in China

PostBy: Duengeon master On: Sat Nov 21, 2009 9:14 pm

I don't necessarily think it's money, they just don't give a $%^t about their people.
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Re: coal mine explosion in China

PostBy: Poconoeagle On: Sat Nov 21, 2009 9:16 pm

yeah not thier or any others or animals........ fish...
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Re: coal mine explosion in China

PostBy: rockwood On: Sat Nov 21, 2009 9:19 pm

Yeah, underground mining can be the most dangerous job on earth if safety is compromised. I grew up near a mine in Colorado and even though safety was foremost accidents happened. It seems like roof bolters were the ones who got hurt or killed most.
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Re: coal mine explosion in China

PostBy: Freddy On: Sat Nov 21, 2009 10:43 pm

"A total of 528 people were working in the mine at the time of the 2:30 a.m. explosion"

Wow, that's a bunch of humans underground at once. Sorry to hear of the explosion. I've read someplace that China has mine accidents way too often.
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Re: coal mine explosion in China

PostBy: 009to090 On: Sun Nov 22, 2009 12:38 am

That one was on the news cuz of the numbers of workers involved. They have WAYYYY too many accidents, cuz all their mines are govnment owned, and don't give a squat about safety. Loose a few? Theres always a few thousand waiting to replace them.
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Re: coal mine explosion in China

PostBy: Richard S. On: Sun Nov 22, 2009 1:04 am

One article I read said that the average death rate in China in coal mines per day was around the US average per year. 14 was the number if I remember correctly. Mining is certainly a dangerous job but it doesn't get into the top ten. Roofers, truck drivers, fishing, loggers.... and salespeople are more likely to be involved in a fatal accident.

I'm assuming the sales people have high fatality rate because of car accidents and it's not in reference to sales people on the floor of store.

http://www.bls.gov/iif/oshwc/cfoi/cfch0007.pdf
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Re: coal mine explosion in China

PostBy: charlie On: Sun Nov 22, 2009 1:36 am

Some years ago, the Minister of Mining from China announced that they were setting the goal of trying to kill fewer than 4000 people annually in mining accidents. We were all quite shocked that such a high number was acceptable. I think things are improving, but they do not have the same "safety first" attitude we have cultivated here. I suspect there are many aspects to the problem: culture, business practices, government, etc.

We are up to 14 this year. http://www.msha.gov/fatals/fabc2009.asp We review Fatalgrams at our mine safety meetings.
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Re: coal mine explosion in China

PostBy: ErikLaurence On: Sun Nov 22, 2009 9:02 am

Richard S. wrote:I'm assuming the sales people have high fatality rate because of car accidents and it's not in reference to sales people on the floor of store.



It might be the Best Buy guys trying to sell extended warranties...
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Re: coal mine explosion in China

PostBy: ErikLaurence On: Sun Nov 22, 2009 9:08 am

In the US the rate of coal mining deaths decreased from about .20 fatalities per 200,000 hours worked by miners (or one death per million production hours) in 1970 to about .07 fatalities in 1977 and an average of .03 fatalities for the 2001-2005 period.


Here's data on US mining fatalities over the years.

http://www.msha.gov/MSHAINFO/FactSheets/MSHAFCT2.HTM

In the late 1930s we were averaging 1500 deaths a year.

We're now averaging 69.
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Re: coal mine explosion in China

PostBy: wlape3 On: Sun Nov 22, 2009 9:23 am

Another thing to consider is manual labor is much more prevalent in China than here. Manual labor is usually cheaper than buying and operating labor saving devices. I saw a man making fill by breaking bricks with a hammer.
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