Navy SEALs Face Assault Charges for Capturing Terrorist

Re: Navy SEALs Face Assault Charges for Capturing Terrorist

PostBy: freetown fred On: Fri Apr 23, 2010 7:35 am

Thanx Lisa,that was getting tireing--for the record Bob,if one of our sons did the same type thing that these people did & the cops haden't punched them in the face,I would :( But then again,I'm sure you would have child protection at my house asking similar ridiculous questions :annoyed:
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Re: Navy SEALs Face Assault Charges for Capturing Terrorist

PostBy: rberq On: Fri Apr 23, 2010 8:17 am

lowfog01 wrote:... It is not "apparent" that the anyone stepped out of line ... most of the information came from the Associated Press hardly a right wing organization. In my humble opinion these heroes were hung out to dry in order to provide CYA possibilities for higher ups.

After reading further accounts (in the MSM, yet) I agree with you.

freetown fred wrote:... for the record Bob, if one of our sons did the same type thing that these people did & the cops haden't punched them in the face, I would

But Fred, that's the whole attitude I have been arguing against. Vigilante justice is great when you are right. But remember all those black boys hung from trees in this country. Until we change the constitution and appoint you judge, jury, and executioner, maybe we should stick to due process.
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Re: Navy SEALs Face Assault Charges for Capturing Terrorist

PostBy: Dann757 On: Fri Apr 23, 2010 8:35 am

rberq wrote:Maybe that's what we are talking about here, and I fully understand that you don't train a pit bull to kill, then expect it to take tender care of the kittens. Don't accuse me of sticking up for the enemy; that is a cheap shot, because it is not what I did. I simply asked for more information about the story. Navy Seals are expected to show discipline and obey orders. Did they punch the guy (or not) in the heat of battle, in the process of capturing him? Or did they do it later, while he was in detention or while he was being interrogated? Big difference, but that was not at all clear. And what's a punch in the gut got to do with a bloody lip? If you don't know the answer, just say so. Why wasn't the whole unit charged? Why only three? Surely there was SOME basis for questioning their behavior, or the whole chain of command above them are idiots.


I refer to your latest discharge of plebeian verbiage; in which, you have proven, once again, that there is no such thing as unutterable nonsense. Your post is an orgy of stultifying cacophonous verbal depravity; an exercise in literary impotence, and an offense to all of good taste and decency.
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Re: Navy SEALs Face Assault Charges for Capturing Terrorist

PostBy: rberq On: Fri Apr 23, 2010 8:41 am

Dann757 wrote:I refer to your latest discharge of plebeian verbiage; in which, you have proven, once again, that there is no such thing as unutterable nonsense. Your post is an orgy of stultifying cacophonous verbal depravity; an exercise in literary impotence, and an offense to all of good taste and decency.

Wow!
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Re: Navy SEALs Face Assault Charges for Capturing Terrorist

PostBy: freetown fred On: Fri Apr 23, 2010 10:30 am

Yep Bob,what Dan said :)
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Re: Navy SEALs Face Assault Charges for Capturing Terrorist

PostBy: Iceman On: Fri Apr 23, 2010 12:45 pm

You know....in my opinion we should not even be having this discussion.
Why? Because we should not even have known that this or anything else happened. We train these fine young men and women to protect this country and we should let them go about their business without trying to micro manage war. The purpose of war is to kill people and break things until one of the sides surrenders.
None of us will ever know the exact circumstances of any incident that is reported. Unless we are the ones in that particular situation we should just shut up unless we are thanking them for protecting us.
This world is more broken every day. Right is wrong and wrong is right. At the end of the day I tell you that absolute truth is absolute truth and nobody can change that.
May God bless or troops no matter what some people think about them.
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Re: Navy SEALs Face Assault Charges for Capturing Terrorist

PostBy: freetown fred On: Fri Apr 23, 2010 5:28 pm

Amen,my friend :)
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Re: Navy SEALs Face Assault Charges for Capturing Terrorist

PostBy: smokeyCityTeacher On: Mon Apr 26, 2010 2:04 am

rberq wrote:Did they in fact punch him? I couldn't quite tell from the story. I assume there is evidence other than a bloody lip? And if they did punch him, why? Is that how you want yourself (or your son) treated by the local cops if he's hauled into the police station?


please re -read your post a few times
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Re: Navy SEALs Face Assault Charges for Capturing Terrorist

PostBy: rberq On: Mon Apr 26, 2010 6:43 pm

smokeyCityTeacher wrote:please re -read your post a few times

I have no idea what you are getting at. But if you re-read the whole thread, a few times or only once, you will see that I now agree the charges were trumped up and should never have been brought in the first place.

There were two issues implicitly under discussion: (1) Did the Seals beat up on the guy in detention, when they were supposed to be guarding him? And (2) if they did beat up on him when they were guarding him, was it OK to do so because he was a bad guy? The answer to (1), per the juries, is no. The answer to (2) is, in your opinion, what?????
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Re: Navy SEALs Face Assault Charges for Capturing Terrorist

PostBy: smokeyCityTeacher On: Mon Apr 26, 2010 10:15 pm

The sheer magnitude of the dis proportionality of what he did vs what the seals did is mind boggling.


The only analogy that I can come up with is that our gov/mil strains at a flea and swallows a camel.

Is there any question that he did it? He bragged about it .. just like KSM bragged about slitting Pearl's throat.
Holder makes sure that the panty holiday bomber gets a the best lawyer on the planet in time to advise him to stop giving us intel but no such specioal red carpet was extended to our seals.

Our gov hates it citizens and coddles its enemies.

Ft. Hood: The general says that he is more concerned about the impact on diversity than the lives of the dead soldiers.

n and on

ah forget it.... i give up

rberq wrote:
smokeyCityTeacher wrote:please re -read your post a few times

I have no idea what you are getting at. But if you re-read the whole thread, a few times or only once, you will see that I now agree the charges were trumped up and should never have been brought in the first place.

There were two issues implicitly under discussion: (1) Did the Seals beat up on the guy in detention, when they were supposed to be guarding him? And (2) if they did beat up on him when they were guarding him, was it OK to do so because he was a bad guy? The answer to (1), per the juries, is no. The answer to (2) is, in your opinion, what?????
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Re: Navy SEALs Face Assault Charges for Capturing Terrorist

PostBy: sterling40man On: Tue Apr 27, 2010 8:27 am

smokeyCityTeacher wrote:Our gov hates it citizens and coddles its enemies.


I started this thread and you know what? I'm tired of all this political horse crap! This is BS, plain and simple! I don't agree with your statement. Like it or not, the Dem's control everything right now. I'm sure that will change come November. Like it or not, BHO is the President and Commander in Chief. I'm positive that will change with the next election. To say that these people love our ememies more than US citizens is wrong!
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Re: Navy SEALs Face Assault Charges for Capturing Terrorist

PostBy: smokeyCityTeacher On: Tue Apr 27, 2010 1:00 pm

sterling40man wrote:
smokeyCityTeacher wrote:Our gov hates it citizens and coddles its enemies.


I started this thread and you know what? I'm tired of all this political horse crap! This is BS, plain and simple! I don't agree with your statement. Like it or not, the Dem's control everything right now. I'm sure that will change come November. Like it or not, BHO is the President and Commander in Chief. I'm positive that will change with the next election. To say that these people love our ememies more than US citizens is wrong!


I appreciate your frustration and re phrase as follows

"They value their ideology over common sense, and to the peril of US citizens"

////and that ideology is "political correctness"

- Giving the panty bomber a lawyer and advising him to shut up is a stupid act that violates common sense.
- Court Marshaling a SEAL who punched a terrorist is a stupid act that violates common sense.
- Preaching to the ft Hood survivors that the lives of the dead soldiers are less important that the impact on diversity... is a degrading and insulting act
- Officially forbidding to use the word Muslim or Jihad in white house policy, reporting etc.
- In contrast to the above, using the words White or Christian freely to describe US citizens accused of terror plots.

These are just exemplars of a government acting on a radical sense of political correctness that is self defeating and suicidal.
They have chosen their ideology over common sense and this ideology is not that of our founding fathers nor or our parents generation.
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Re: Navy SEALs Face Assault Charges for Capturing Terrorist

PostBy: Dann757 On: Tue Apr 27, 2010 5:17 pm



To the right wing opinions here: Completely agree.
To the left wing opinions here: Bronx Cheer.
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