Navy SEALs Face Assault Charges for Capturing Terrorist

Navy SEALs Face Assault Charges for Capturing Terrorist

PostBy: sterling40man On: Tue Nov 24, 2009 4:57 pm

http://www.foxnews.com/story/0,2933,576646,00.html

The three, all members of the Navy's elite commando unit, have refused non-judicial punishment — called an admiral's mast — and have requested a trial by court-martial.

Ahmed Hashim Abed, whom the military code-named "Objective Amber," told investigators he was punched by his captors — and he had the bloody lip to prove it.



It'll never get to a court martial, but it's still BS!
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Re: Navy SEALs Face Assault Charges for Capturing Terrorist

PostBy: 009to090 On: Tue Nov 24, 2009 5:03 pm

Punched by his Captures. Hes lucky thats all he got. :mad3:
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Re: Navy SEALs Face Assault Charges for Capturing Terrorist

PostBy: samhill On: Tue Nov 24, 2009 5:16 pm

The story is really hard to believe but with all the other crap going on over there it just might be true. All the more reason to get our forces home.
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Re: Navy SEALs Face Assault Charges for Capturing Terrorist

PostBy: rberq On: Tue Nov 24, 2009 8:19 pm

Did they in fact punch him? I couldn't quite tell from the story. I assume there is evidence other than a bloody lip? And if they did punch him, why? Is that how you want yourself (or your son) treated by the local cops if he's hauled into the police station?
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Re: Navy SEALs Face Assault Charges for Capturing Terrorist

PostBy: coalkirk On: Tue Nov 24, 2009 9:27 pm

FOR GODS SAKE MAN!!!!! This *censored* dragged our guys through the streets, hung them upside down on a rope from a bridge and set them on FIRE. He gets a bloody lip and your are going to be his advocate?? I would have shot the SOB in his the arms, legs, balls, then face. And, yes! If my son had done what this jerk did, I would want them to bloody his lip. Unfreakin believable!
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Re: Navy SEALs Face Assault Charges for Capturing Terrorist

PostBy: SMITTY On: Tue Nov 24, 2009 10:04 pm

Right on CoalKirk - I couldn't have said it better.

An eye for an eye - We should have just shot them all & figured the details out later. Unbelievable that these REAL AMERICAN HEROS are facing assault charges!!!! :mad: :mad: :mad:
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Re: Navy SEALs Face Assault Charges for Capturing Terrorist

PostBy: mr1precision On: Tue Nov 24, 2009 10:44 pm

Can you imagine if they pulled this crap in WWII. We'd be speaking German now. :mad:
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Re: Navy SEALs Face Assault Charges for Capturing Terrorist

PostBy: SMITTY On: Tue Nov 24, 2009 11:06 pm

Exactly -- either that or a combo of Jap & German ....

Thank God for those vets. I'm sure going to miss that generation. :cry:
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Re: Navy SEALs Face Assault Charges for Capturing Terrorist

PostBy: sterling40man On: Thu Apr 22, 2010 1:15 pm

One of them was aquitted. :dancing: :D The second one starts his trial tomorrow and the third on May 3.
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Re: Navy SEALs Face Assault Charges for Capturing Terrorist

PostBy: freetown fred On: Thu Apr 22, 2010 3:49 pm

OK rberq,you no longer humor Momma or me :cry:
rberq wrote:Did they in fact punch him? I couldn't quite tell from the story. I assume there is evidence other than a bloody lip? And if they did punch him, why? Is that how you want yourself (or your son) treated by the local cops if he's hauled into the police station?
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Re: Navy SEALs Face Assault Charges for Capturing Terrorist

PostBy: Dann757 On: Thu Apr 22, 2010 4:07 pm

rberq wrote:Did they in fact punch him? I couldn't quite tell from the story. I assume there is evidence other than a bloody lip? And if they did punch him, why? Is that how you want yourself (or your son) treated by the local cops if he's hauled into the police station?

A bleeding heart liberal will always stick up for the enemy. Unbelievable.

I had the privilege of meeting a young Navy Seal candidate last week. I try to remember I stand on American soil that thousands fought and died for, sacrificing everything.
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Re: Navy SEALs Face Assault Charges for Capturing Terrorist

PostBy: rberq On: Thu Apr 22, 2010 6:30 pm

Dann757 wrote:A bleeding heart liberal will always stick up for the enemy. Unbelievable.

"People sleep peaceably in their beds at night only because rough men stand ready to do violence on their behalf." Attributed to George Orwell and Winston Churchill, among others.

Maybe that's what we are talking about here, and I fully understand that you don't train a pit bull to kill, then expect it to take tender care of the kittens. Don't accuse me of sticking up for the enemy; that is a cheap shot, because it is not what I did. I simply asked for more information about the story. Navy Seals are expected to show discipline and obey orders. Did they punch the guy (or not) in the heat of battle, in the process of capturing him? Or did they do it later, while he was in detention or while he was being interrogated? Big difference, but that was not at all clear. And what's a punch in the gut got to do with a bloody lip? If you don't know the answer, just say so. Why wasn't the whole unit charged? Why only three? Surely there was SOME basis for questioning their behavior, or the whole chain of command above them are idiots.

So you are acting just like the Seals are accused of acting. You're frustrated and you want to whack somebody, so I ask a simple question about discipline, and you're all over me. Cops lead rough lives sometimes, too. Like I said, do you want them to compensate by beating the sh*t out of you or someone in your family, just because you happen to be handy?
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Re: Navy SEALs Face Assault Charges for Capturing Terrorist

PostBy: freetown fred On: Thu Apr 22, 2010 7:56 pm

Bob,I'm totally befuddled,mystified & disappointed that you would even make this comparison,but, from following many of your posts,I guess it's just the nature of the beast :(
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Re: Navy SEALs Face Assault Charges for Capturing Terrorist

PostBy: rberq On: Thu Apr 22, 2010 9:41 pm

And Fred, I'm befuddled that you don't see my point. These guys did a great job, apparently, but then a few of them stepped seriously out of line, and were called to task for it. What kind of message does it send to the troops, at all levels, if they see a few loose cannon self-appointed hot shots defying orders and getting away with it?
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Re: Navy SEALs Face Assault Charges for Capturing Terrorist

PostBy: lowfog01 On: Fri Apr 23, 2010 5:13 am

rberq wrote:And Fred, I'm befuddled that you don't see my point. These guys did a great job, apparently, but then a few of them stepped seriously out of line, and were called to task for it. What kind of message does it send to the troops, at all levels, if they see a few loose cannon self-appointed hot shots defying orders and getting away with it?


Bob, you should take a minute and do a little research on this case. It is not "apparent" that the anyone stepped out of line. What is apparent to me is that all charges should have been dropped from the beginning. This none event got attention because it happened right after Abu Graes (spelling). I'm not providing links because all you need to do to is google Navy Seals Iraqi mistreatment and pages will appear. It was interesting to note that while Fox gave this the most coverage, most of the information came from the Associated Press hardly a right wing organization. In my humble opinion these heroes were hung out to dry in order to provide CYA possibilities for higher ups. Why else were they originally offered Article 15s or non judicial punishment. Someone up the chain wanted to be able to prove they did something and never counted on the SEALS standing on the truth. Most every one else would have said, "anything, just so I can get on with my life." Those commanders backed themselves into a corner and had to go forth with the charges. Have a great day, Lisa
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