My current huge project

Re: My current huge project

PostBy: Sting On: Sat Jan 23, 2010 9:18 pm

Still like that big fridge - freezer :D

have you "finned" the under floor pex yet?
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Re: My current huge project

PostBy: LsFarm On: Sat Jan 23, 2010 10:17 pm

Hi Sting, Hi Whistlenut.

Sting: I did put a piece of 'molded' flashing over the pex, stapled this long 'fin' to the subfloor, then insulate the joist spaces, I did an 'experiment' first.. a space with just pex, one with just the aluminum 'plate', one with foil faced insulation, and a space with the plate and insulation. The increase in floor temp was measurable. from the pex only to the plate and insulation was 10-11* warmer.. and most importantly,, the floor stayed warm for hours longer after the pex cooled off in the insulated joist space. Thank you for firmly suggesting that I add the aluminum fin/plate.. it was worth the money and effort.

Whistlenut: Thanks for the encouraging comments..[how did you know I was getting burned-out? :shock: ]
I have my AA260 out in a remote building, about halfway between my house and shop. I have burried PexAlPex to the house and shop.
I use the DHW coil in the AA to heat the floor in the shop. Since I have glycol in this system, I didn't want to mix it with the rest of the system's water. So it is independant from the house and boiler's water.
In the house I have a 40 plate water/water heat exchanger to transfer heat into the hot water heat system [s], then the water goes through a 30 plate water/water exchanger that preheats the cold water going into my DHW heater. Then the cooler water is piped back to the AA.

This system works fine if hot water is used at least twice a day, and usually it is, morning shower, and evening dishes and sometimes laundry. But when I'm not home, the DHW heater will fire and use some propane to keep the water at a minimum temperature.. I've always intended to add a small circulation loop to keep the tank/heater warm,, but my propane use is so little now, I'm probably not going to worry too much about it. If the DHW heater ever croaks, I'll probably put in an indirect water heater/tank. Or at least add a circulation loop when I install a new DHW heater/tank.

My coal use seems to be less than last year, but the weather this year is milder than last, so it's hard to say.. the house is MUCH more comfortable and consistantly warm.. the heat only cycles on a few times per day.. used to be a few times per hour. When it does cycle on, it runs for a longer period of time, since it has to heat the concrete suspended slab, but the slab then stays warm for many hours. I LOVE this hydronic radiant floor system !!

Greg L
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Stoker Coal Boiler: Axeman Anderson 260
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Baseburners & Antiques: Keystone 11, Art Garland

Re: My current huge project

PostBy: Freddy On: Sun Jan 24, 2010 7:56 am

LsFarm wrote:I use the DHW coil in the AA to heat the floor in the shop.


I didn't know you did that! I use my coil for my infloor also. I thought that was my original idea....dang! It's hard to think a new thought. *smile*
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Re: My current huge project

PostBy: Hambden Bob On: Sun Jan 24, 2010 8:31 am

LS,your project is amazing. So are all of your coal burning compadres here with you. I haven't commented until now and I should have much earlier. Burnout only occurs because you bothered to engage. You have taught,shown,demonstrated and given freely of your valuable time here. Others have cared and done the same. There's a huge,quiet strength in that. Stay with it. Your ongoing documentary here should serve others,like me, very well for a long time to come. I will try to do the same when it's my turn. Well Done ! LS,,,Well Done.........Hambden Bob.....
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Re: My current huge project

PostBy: LsFarm On: Mon Jan 25, 2010 9:05 pm

I'm slowly getting it drywalled.. We worked for a good part of the day, three of us.. two on drywall, one on insulation in the walls. The ceiling in the living room or family room is up. it looks nice.. but I can tell that once the walls are done, the rooms will definitely appear to shrink.. inevitable i guess.

I found a problem with the big 9' patio door in the living room, the swinging door appears to have warped.. the hinge side is perfectly plumb,, but the latch side has pulled away from the door seal at the top, by about 1/4" I can see daylight through the gap.. I called the company warrantee folks.. and hope to hear back from a rep soon.. hopefully I'll only have to replace the hinged door, and not the whole 9' assembly !!

I'm off to work for 5 days starting tomorrow morning, I gave the guys a laundry list of items to do while i'm gone.. so hopefully more drywall will be up when I'm back home on Saturday.

Greg L
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Stoker Coal Boiler: Axeman Anderson 260
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Baseburners & Antiques: Keystone 11, Art Garland

Re: My current huge project

PostBy: SMITTY On: Mon Jan 25, 2010 9:19 pm

Mint! It will be done before you know it! Looks like your almost there ... the home stretch! :punk:

I forecast low coal consumption for '11 ... 8-)
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Re: My current huge project

PostBy: RMA On: Wed Jan 27, 2010 12:36 pm

the home stretch! :punk:



home stretch?

Hey Smitty I get it! :D


Bob
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Re: My current huge project

PostBy: LsFarm On: Sat Jan 30, 2010 11:05 pm

More drywall photos, Soon I'll be calling the drywall finishers.

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Stoker Coal Boiler: Axeman Anderson 260
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Baseburners & Antiques: Keystone 11, Art Garland

Re: My current huge project

PostBy: europachris On: Sun Jan 31, 2010 9:57 am

LsFarm wrote:I found a problem with the big 9' patio door in the living room, the swinging door appears to have warped.. the hinge side is perfectly plumb,, but the latch side has pulled away from the door seal at the top, by about 1/4" I can see daylight through the gap.. I called the company warrantee folks.. and hope to hear back from a rep soon.. hopefully I'll only have to replace the hinged door, and not the whole 9' assembly !!
Greg L

Uh Oh....I hope that's not due to the quality of "help" used for installing that door..... :oops: Remember, I was drafted! :!:

Hopefully it is the door and not something else - I doubt it is the house moving around unless all that concrete you poured is causing the planet to distort. :P

Lookin' good! I'm ready for the housewarming party! I'll bring a big pile of Chicago dogs or pizza along!

Chris
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Re: My current huge project

PostBy: LsFarm On: Thu Feb 04, 2010 10:44 am

The drywall finishing guys started yesterday, got all the inside and outside corners, and the joints done with first coat. They are coming back today for round two.
I don't have photos, since I'm at recurrent training/checkrides. I may make a low-pass through the house between training and my flights starting on Sunday.

I won't have ALL the drywall done, the wall adjoining the old section of the house still will need framing for a double pocket door, and furring out to make it look right, the wall is crooked and wavey.

Greg L
LsFarm
 
Stoker Coal Boiler: Axeman Anderson 260
Hand Fed Coal Boiler: Self-built 'Big Bertha' SS Boiler
Baseburners & Antiques: Keystone 11, Art Garland

Re: My current huge project

PostBy: sterling40man On: Thu Feb 04, 2010 11:40 am

LsFarm wrote:I don't have photos, since I'm at recurrent training/checkrides.


Not acceptable! :nana: :lol:

Looking good Greg!
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Re: My current huge project

PostBy: LsFarm On: Sat Feb 06, 2010 9:54 am

It's almost painting time. I finished my recurrent training and checkrides early enough to get home on friday evening.. Took these photos.

So far the drywall finishing job looks pretty good, there is at least one more finish coat of compound to be applied and some sanding.. The drywall dust is going to be a pain. But once done and primed.. it's DONE..

Paint, trim, staircase/balcony railings, flooring and trim still on the list.

Greg L

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Stoker Coal Boiler: Axeman Anderson 260
Hand Fed Coal Boiler: Self-built 'Big Bertha' SS Boiler
Baseburners & Antiques: Keystone 11, Art Garland

Re: My current huge project

PostBy: whistlenut On: Sat Feb 06, 2010 10:04 am

Great progress; terrific news on the coal usage and comfort factor. Radiant is just like an invisible helping hand. Not a sound, and not too hot, or too cold. It is great with a solid fuel appliance, and next year, when she's all finished, you will begin to reap the benefits of a job well done.
PS: Thanks for keeping the local contractors busy. If others were able to help out, our economy would be seeing some daylight!
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Stoker Coal Boiler: AA130's,260's, AHS130&260's,EFM900,GJ&VanWert
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Hand Fed Coal Furnace: Van Wert, NYer's, Ford,Jensen.
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Re: My current huge project

PostBy: LsFarm On: Sat Feb 06, 2010 10:14 am

There hasn't been a week gone by yet that I don't get a business card or two, or a flyer in my mailbox, or stuck in the front door jamb from some tradesman or another. Everybody is hungry out here.. I've tried to spread it around, without causing too much angst and animosity between different guys with similar skills and desires to do the job.

So far I've used six or eight different guys/crews. All really appreciated the work.. nobody sluffing off, or skipping days.. All willing to do more.

Now, if I could get the Jeld-Wen door rep to call and make an appointment to look at and replace the badly warped doors, then I'd be pretty happy with the whole job..

I'll be eating/breathing drywall dust next week

Greg L
LsFarm
 
Stoker Coal Boiler: Axeman Anderson 260
Hand Fed Coal Boiler: Self-built 'Big Bertha' SS Boiler
Baseburners & Antiques: Keystone 11, Art Garland

Re: My current huge project

PostBy: whistlenut On: Sat Feb 06, 2010 10:25 am

Don't the finishers have those sanding vacuums on the pole? The dust is a real PITA, but a blueberry muffin helps cut the chalky taste.....
The JennWeld folks are very good to deal with......
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Stoker Coal Boiler: AA130's,260's, AHS130&260's,EFM900,GJ&VanWert
Hand Fed Coal Boiler: Franks Boiler,Itasca415,NYer130,Van Wert
Hot Air Coal Stoker Furnace: Yellow Flame
Hot Air Coal Stoker Stove: Alaska-4,Keystoker-2,
Hand Fed Coal Stove: Alaska,Gibraltor,Keystone,Vc Vigilant 2
Hand Fed Coal Furnace: Van Wert, NYer's, Ford,Jensen.
Coal Size/Type: Rice,Buck,Pea,Nut&Stove
Other Heating: Oil HWBB