My current huge project

Re: My current huge project

PostBy: freetown fred On: Sun May 02, 2010 5:57 pm

You keep gaining on it my friend,that's mostly all we can do--I like the railing design simplistic w/ just enough Deco to catch the eye :) Look fwd to late week pix
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Re: My current huge project

PostBy: LsFarm On: Sun May 02, 2010 10:28 pm

It sure doesn't look like a weekend's worth of work, but each cut and fitted piece of slate tile is about 20 minutes of labor.. plus the time to put it down in thinset. So about 40' of fitted border and all the triangle pieces, each needing several fittings to get the grout lines even and inline.. Very labor intensive..
And I have another roughly 200' of border to go. Some of it will be such that I can use one template for several pieces of slate. Hopefully this will speed up the process..

While it is a very slow and laborious process, the results are worth it, the nice neat, straight grout lines look great. It looks like a very professional job. The floor is quite level, very few grout joints with even a 1/16" height variation.. the hand fitting pays off.

Next weekend and the following week will show a lot of progress. Can't wait.

Greg L
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The grout line down the 8" border on the left came out very straight with only a little 'natural' variation in width, the same line under the bar also came out nice.
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Lots of fussy cut-and-fit around the walls, cabinets and borders.. but I'm pretty happy with the end result
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The white board on the floor is just a staight-edge, this is where the wood floor will start.
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Re: My current huge project

PostBy: LsFarm On: Mon May 03, 2010 9:46 am

Got up early this morning, and started wiping off the slate. Lots and lots of haze and spatters of thinset left behind.. but it comes up fairly easlily. I'm sure glad I took the time to sort, inspect and pre-seal the slate beforehand.. makes the cleanup much easier.

I walked around on the new sections, in socks. I found no 'toe-stubbers' or low spots.. that puts a smile on my face ! :)

The carpet guy is bringing in the roll of carpet and pad for the stairs and balcony, we need to get this up the stairs and into the big open 'attic' or 'laundry room' that has an unobstructed floor, so we can roll it out for cutting an piecing...

I'm off to JFK today for work,, a 'short week' this week, I'll be back on Thursday..

Greg L
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Re: My current huge project

PostBy: LsFarm On: Fri May 07, 2010 12:53 pm

I returned home yesterday, had a voicemail message from the steel fabricator to please call him.. He wanted me to stop by and inspect the first painted section of railing. He wanted to make sure I was happy with it's appearance with paint on it before he finishes the rest and paints the sections..

The paint I had him buy is PPG DP90, a black epoxy based primer/sealer.. pretty much the best primer/sealer I've ever used. My painting professional friends allways use this product or similar type when doing high-end paint jobs on custom or restored cars.. It's good for decades in the weather.. so it should be good for almost forever on the inside railing.

I inspected some of my antique car parts/pieces and a car chassis that I had painted with this product about 20 years ago, and it looked like i'd painted it yesterday, [once I cleaned off the dust/dirt]. The primer drys to a semi-gloss/semi-flat finish..

Unfortunately the newer version of this paint seems to dry to a glossier finish that I saw on my older painted pieces.. I'm not sure I want the railing to be quite this glossy.. But I'm going to look at it for awhile, and maybe try some truely flat-black paint on a section to see if I like that look better..

In the photo below, the shorter piece with the decorative knuckles is the final product.. the taller plain section is only being used to hold up and brace the other.. the final pieces will be welded together in place, then final coats of paint applied..

As for me, for today and this weekend, it's more time on my knees measuring and piecing in/cutting to fit slate for the floor..

Greg L
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The tall, plain section on the right is being used to prop up and hold the shorter, finished and ornamented section.
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Re: My current huge project

PostBy: Dann757 On: Fri May 07, 2010 1:10 pm

I threw down the cheapest Lowes tiles in the kitchen here. They were like 69 cents apiece. Now I regret it because I don't like the color. I call it zombie flesh grey/beige. Least of my worries.

Your slate floor looks awesome. I saw a home show, and the installers of 18x18 stone said they always set the tile then bring it back up again as a
matter of course, to check the coverage and also to keep the floor running level no matter what.

Watch out for flat black on your railings, it scuffs and shows whatever touches it.
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Re: My current huge project

PostBy: freetown fred On: Fri May 07, 2010 4:30 pm

Gregg,you know I have trouble voicin my opinions :lol: with the looks of everything else in the stair area,I would not go too flat nor to glossy--uh-oh--where's that leave ya :)aren't the wall lamps also wrought??one good thing about paint is that you can pretty much mix whatever shade you want.I'm sure your guy isn't doing that job for free.You'll make the right choice.The railing is really going to accentuate(ko0ol word) the whole stair area(most eye catching)Better you getting back to that floor then me ;)
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Re: My current huge project

PostBy: LsFarm On: Fri May 07, 2010 5:02 pm

Thanks guys, even with the flattest stuff I have found, there still is a 'reflection' off of the flat areas on the steel bars.. The carpet will brighten up the stairs and balcony area, so I think I'm gonna go very flat.. and if I want a bit more sheen then I can wipe it down with 0000 steel wool.

Dan, I agree, and am a bit concerned about the scuffing on the very flat paint,, but I think there will be only two or three areas where I may [being a klutz] kick the railing, leaving marks.. And, this house is supposed to become a shoes off house.. [I've never had a shoes-off house before].. so if I kick the railing, it will leave a mark.. on me..

Fred, my dog seems to be able to leave claw marks on the slate, it wipes off with a damp towel or even a sock on my foot, the slate has had two coatings of penetrating sealer, will the 'finish' sealer be harder/tougher and not show the toenail marks?? Or will I have to train my mutt to wear socks? :shock:

I had to move indoors today, lots of rain and thunderstorms.. so I cleaned out the breezeway and brought the tile saw indoors.. it's closer too, and I'm not tracking as much mud indoors either.. So far I'm getting a lot of slate placed downa and trimmed to fit. I hope to get enough cut to keep me or help busy putting it down in thinset for a day. Maybe on Sunday.

Well back to the wet-saw.

Greg L
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Re: My current huge project

PostBy: LsFarm On: Sun May 09, 2010 10:36 am

I worked late last night,, I was cleaning out buckets and washing thinset off tools and my hands at 11pm last night.. I overdid it a bit

At about 8PM, I mixed up a bucket of slightly thinner thinset to put down a few tiles that were thick and needed only a very thin layer of mud.. But then moved on to some thinner tiles, and needed thicker thinset, so I mixed up some in the normal consistancy.. I had plenty of precut pieces ready to put down.. but now I had almost two full buckets of thinset mixed, and I don't throw out thinset !!

As I worked around the island putting down tiles, leveling, cleaning as I went, I worked around till I was done with the perimeter of the island.. then I discovered that I couldn't get up off my knees.. I was so stiff in the kneeling position that even with pulling on the countertop, I couldn't get up. So I crawled over to the stairs, and crawled up the stairsteps, till I could turn around and slowly straighten my legs. When I did stand up, my knees really protested.. I'm not sure thay are going to last the rest of this week. I'm certainly not going to stay on my knees for two straight hours again..

I still had enough thinset mixed up to put down about 4-5 more pieces of slate, so back to the floor I went, and about an hour later I had used up most of the mud, and gave up for the night..

I've already started in again this morning,, I'm off this week, and other than a doc appt or two, I plan on doing nothing but slate tile till this %%##$$%$%#$^^&%% job is done.. I don't want to look at it any more..

I'll attach photos of the perimeter tiles around the back of the island.. I know all these photos of slate are getting boring.. but each section is a milestone for me and this project.. sorry if it is getting monotinous [sp?]

I walked around on the newly laid slate and didn't find any toe-stubbers... WHOOO HOO !! I was afraid I may have got a case of the ' F'-its ' last night.. But it appears that all the pieces are down level and even.. This perimeter part of the island is where I'll be standing a lot while prepping and cooking, so any low or high spots will be an annoyance forever.. but it appears all is well.

I also got several pieces down along the front-door wall, another milestone of sorts..

Greg L

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Lots of cleanup to do, but the slate is flat, no toe-stubbers !
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Re: My current huge project

PostBy: freetown fred On: Sun May 09, 2010 10:47 am

Greg,you da man :) You old fool :lol: you now know that the compulsive neurotic disorder is a tile layers constant companion :crazy: Lookin fwd to the next set of pix my friend :up:
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Re: My current huge project

PostBy: LsFarm On: Thu May 13, 2010 7:07 pm

The steel fabricator came by with the balcony railings. We hauled them upstairs, and postioned the sections, put down welding blankets to protect the woodwork, welded up the sections.
I lag bolted down the bases and put on the decorative feet. The railings look great.. I'll put a maple wood banister on the top of the steel, I have maple that came from the same tree as the maple for the balcony edge and stair caps. This maple has a fair amount of 'curl' or 'tiger stripe' in it, and looks great. The stain color will match the stairs and balcony woodwork

We made the final measurements for the stair railing, so now it can be laid out and fabricated.

I didn't get much done on the slate-tile job today, but the day isn't over yet. I'll cut a few more pieces and probably mix up a half batch of thinset and put down the remaining pieces for the kitchen border.. with the kitchen done, another milestone met.

Greg L
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View from my master bedroom.
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Re: My current huge project

PostBy: freetown fred On: Thu May 13, 2010 8:16 pm

oh yea,that's looking outstanding--did you find your color for the railings??that's one rustic lookin bed frame set-up,nice.The view from the balcony is excellent & I love the natural light you've worked in w/ all the windows--hell,call it a day my young friend--it'll all be there tomorrow :) That chandylier sets that whole area off real well
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Re: My current huge project

PostBy: SMITTY On: Fri May 14, 2010 12:13 am

Kick ass railings! No headers off the top floor at your place -- that's a good thing. :D

I remember helping my ol' man do tile back in the early 80's. Ball-busting, labor-intensive work - I'm sure you know that by now! The finished product will be well worth it though -- and it's guaranteed that you'll never have to do it again. My parents house still has that same floor. We half-assed it & didn't put thinset down -- we just tiled right over the plywood! :lol: Only a couple cracks in almost 30 years.
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Re: My current huge project

PostBy: Adamiscold On: Fri May 14, 2010 7:16 am

Those railings are beautiful!!! Great work!
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Re: My current huge project

PostBy: freetown fred On: Fri May 14, 2010 7:23 am

Smitty,that wasn't half-assin it,that's just the way it was done back when--we've still got tiles down from way back & the only tell tale is that the grout always darkens a bit---light grey becomes darker grey--white becomes light grey :blah: STILL,a temporary inconvienence for a permenent improvement---the good news is that when you do it real level,after you've screwed up your knees real bad,your wheelchair won't get hung up on the grout lines,etc. in the yrs to come :lol:
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Re: My current huge project

PostBy: Dann757 On: Fri May 14, 2010 9:51 am

I'm just trying to install a 6x8 laundry room, everything almost ready. It's an old back porch, plumbing is all in, spackling done and ready for final sanding. I'm putting OSB (a couple weeks ago it was about $7 at Home Despot, now it's $14...bastards...) down on the floor and gluing carpet to it strictly to save money.
This little project is tiring me out.....
Dann757