My current huge project

Re: My current huge project

PostBy: SMITTY On: Thu Dec 24, 2009 7:16 am

In this state I swear they have a contest to see who can be the biggest prick! :roll:
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Re: My current huge project

PostBy: WNY On: Thu Dec 24, 2009 8:46 am

only had experience a couple times with electrical inspections, both passed, one a electrical contractor put in a new box, and the other I put in. No problems with either. It's to protect the homeowners, insurance companies, banks, etc....I would rather be safe.

In helping renovate my mom's house (2 apt. duplex), some of the wiring my dad did 30+ years ago was pretty scary! I went thru and put connections/splices in Boxes and actually used wire nuts!! Some of his connections were just hanging above the ceiling and only taped! Things we learn over the years! I said, "What was he thinking?"....I know him, didn't want to spend the $.10 for a wire nut.....
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Re: My current huge project

PostBy: LsFarm On: Thu Dec 24, 2009 2:50 pm

Most if not all of the code rules currently protect the purchaser of a NEW home from substandard building/wiring/plumbing practices by builders and contractors trying to save a nickle or dime.

The codes don't protect or have anything to do with buying or living in an existing house. You may when purchasing an old home, have the house inspected if your mortgage company requires it, or if you don't know much about houses or systems in a building.

My house when I bought it was a true disaster. I had smoking outlets, circuit breakers that would open from loads at opposite ends of the house. [the front bedroom and the laundry were hooked together, they are about 60' apart]. The kitchen sink drained to a swamp, there were gaps in the fieldstone foundation that a cat could [and did] crawl through. [I found out that the barn cats that came with the place wintered in the basement !]

The old section of the house, as it now stands is pretty good, a vast improvement over what it was. The bath rooms have GFCI circuits, the foundation won't allow stowaways to enter, there is insulation in the attic, and in and on the walls.. most rooms have electricity, etc.

But no code or enforcement 'protected' me from any of the dangers in this place when I bought it.. Now I bought it with full knowledge that it was a dump, and in serious need of a LOT of work. So I'm not complaining, it's just that the current inspectors just don't understand how much the house has already been improved and made safer, I certainly don't need a lecture from the inspector about what 'it needs'.

I just had to zip my lips, and look away when he started in again on 'having to have electricity in that old room'.. the main building inspector quitely said, 'lets cross that bridge later'.. end of lecture. Like I said earlier, the main building inspector had his head set square and level on his shoulders.. common sense and logical thinking abound.

But, I now have those two green stickers.. so I need to get off my rear, away from this computer, and solder up some hot water manifolds for the 2nd floor pex heat circuits..

Merry Christmas !!

Greg L
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Re: My current huge project

PostBy: coalkirk On: Thu Dec 24, 2009 3:04 pm

Hi Greg. Congrats on the 2 green stickers. What's standard and customary in one area can be radically different in another. In my county, if you put an addition on your home, you must upgrade the smoke detector protection in your entire home. I put on a small addition two years ago and had to have hard wired battery backup smokes installed throughout the home.

Merry Christmas!

Terry
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Re: My current huge project

PostBy: LsFarm On: Thu Dec 24, 2009 5:04 pm

I certainly don't think that hard wired smoke detectors are a bad idea. In fact, this morning, I crawled into the old attic, and ran a length of 14-3 from the new smoke detectors to where I will eventually install a new hard-wired detector in the old section of the house, in the hallway ceiling next to the doors to the bedrooms.
I'm willing to play the game, expecially when is really is a safety item.. but some of this stuff.. sheesh..

Like the whole old section of the house.. not a grounded outlet in the whole place.. and it's plaster construction.. I'm NOT going to pull the walls down to install new wire and grounded outlets.

Merry Christmas

Greg L
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Re: My current huge project

PostBy: LsFarm On: Wed Dec 30, 2009 9:27 am

I had to figure a way to get the drywall on the ceiling of the two story foyer. The peak is 28 feet above the foyer floor, with a stairway and balcony all around the perimeter at the second level.. so a normal stack of scafolding would not work well, it would be confined to the center only.

So I built a temporary floor over the balconies, and staircase, and made a big 'trap door' over the top of the stairs. This gave me a nice flat floor to work from, to set up and use the drywall jack and stepladders on, and for the drywall finishers and painting to be done from. The drywall is on the ceiling up to the peak, properly insulated to ~R44 or so.
The upstairs room also has it's ceiling drywalled, but not insulated yet. The cardboard is just to block the airflow from the attic area.
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I also managed to get the manifold soldered up and hot water circulating through the pex that is under the floor deck [3/4" plywood] for the second floor. I quickly found out that this method is not as good as conducting heat as the concrete suspended slab on the first floor. I will have to insulate the joist spaces to keep the heat up next tot he wood flooring, to get it to warm up better.. But at least it does heat the floor, and there are no leaks.

I get home on the afternoon of the 1st, and hope to get more drywall on the walls. Maybe some kitchen cabinets up on the walls.


Greg L
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Re: My current huge project

PostBy: LsFarm On: Sun Jan 03, 2010 12:13 am

I'm starting on the kitchen cabinets.. First I need to put up the full height cabinets to establish the top of the upper cabinets. The two tall cabinets in the photo below are actually pantry drawers.. One tall drawer with SS shelving units inside. They will flank the side-by-side Freezer and Refrigerator. There will be a cabinet bridging over the Fridge/freezer, connecting the two pantry cabinets.

I hope to get the wall cabinets up tomorrow, a corner and a side in the two outer corners. A set of flat cabinets on the right hand wall, And the appliance stack and cabinet on the left wall. Then I'll install the fridge/freezer and the surrounding cabinets and trim.

The center island will be last, I have wiring to install [sshhhh ! don't tell the inspector! ] And a heavy duty wall at the end of the island to support the granite serving bar-top. This piece of granite will be about 9' long and about 30" wide.. so it will be HEAVY. I will build the wall with at least two 2x6's going through the floor and being fastened to the floor joists. I have to wire this wall with a few outlets, and design and weld up some decorative but very strong brackets to support the overhanging granite bar-top slab.

Moving along, but MUCH slower now, I am looking foreward to getting all the cabinets and appliances in their boxes out of the way.. I'll hang a sheet of plastic over the opening to the kitchen, to keep dust out while the rest of the house is drywalled..

Greg L

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Re: My current huge project

PostBy: VigIIPeaBurner On: Sun Jan 03, 2010 9:43 pm

That scafolding looks just like mine. It's currently serving table/storage service in the shed ;)
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Re: My current huge project

PostBy: LsFarm On: Sun Jan 03, 2010 9:49 pm

The scafolding is borrowed from a neighbor, it's pretty narrow, so I have to be carefull when moving around on it, but it sure is handy for drywall work, and painting.. especially since I went with tall ceilings in most areas of the house.

Greg
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Re: My current huge project

PostBy: VigIIPeaBurner On: Sun Jan 03, 2010 11:32 pm

I think it's ~2' wide x 8'. In my younger "daze" I stacked them up to reach the peak of the gable end of the bank barn I built. Must have been stacked 16' high to the 21' peak Tied them off 3/4 of the way to the peak were I mounted a flush mount 150 W sodium vapor and put the 12' x 4' (4x4, 3 ea) Anderson awning window in. Scaffolding was a little shakey but I was immortal then & they were free. ;) God, it was 27 years ago :shock:
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Re: My current huge project

PostBy: SMITTY On: Mon Jan 04, 2010 1:02 am

Me & staging don't mix .... .... could it be the liquor? toothy

You must be noticing a difference with all that modern insulation in place. 8-)
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Re: My current huge project

PostBy: titleist1 On: Mon Jan 04, 2010 2:09 pm

Terrific looking project. Greg you probably already thought of this, but just in case it got lost in the millions of details to think about....It doesn't look like you have the finished flooring down in the kitchen, make sure you have the clearance to get a dishwasher in/out under the counter and your fridge in/out from under your upper cab by setting your base cab's on something that is the thickness of your planned finished flooring. I have run into this "minor" detail a few times on re-habs.
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Re: My current huge project

PostBy: 009to090 On: Mon Jan 04, 2010 9:12 pm

titleist1 wrote:Terrific looking project. Greg you probably already thought of this, but just in case it got lost in the millions of details to think about....It doesn't look like you have the finished flooring down in the kitchen, make sure you have the clearance to get a dishwasher in/out under the counter and your fridge in/out from under your upper cab by setting your base cab's on something that is the thickness of your planned finished flooring. I have run into this "minor" detail a few times on re-habs.

Yeah, I noticed that too. But Greg thought of every other detail, so I am assuming he raised the base cabinets to allow for the finished floor (I hope, I hope, I hope)
I always completed the finished floor BEFORE installing any cabinets. Did a floor for a friend once, who INSISTED I leave the existing cabinets and dishwasher in place, and install new sub-floor and tiles in front of it! Well, I did as I was instructed, and finished floor was 1 1/8" HIGHER than old floor (Had to match height of two other rooms). Needless to say, the only way he will be able to replace that dishwasher now, is to remove the countertop. :shock:
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Re: My current huge project

PostBy: LsFarm On: Mon Jan 04, 2010 11:55 pm

The fridge and freezer I have tons of clearance,, they have a 9" trim kit for the top and bottom.. but the dishwasher.. I DIDN'T think about that... I'll have to check and see if I have enough clearance.

THANKS for the 'heads up'..

Greg L..


Cabinets, cabinets everywhere..

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Re: My current huge project

PostBy: LsFarm On: Tue Jan 05, 2010 1:39 am

OK, from the instalation instructions, I need a minimum of 34" from finish floor to countertop, I have 34 1/4" from finished floor [I put down some pieces of slate and added for thinset] to the bottom of the countertop., Pretty close, I may raise these cabinets 1/2" just to be safe.

Thanks again for the heads up..

Greg L.
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