My current huge project

Re: My current huge project

PostBy: Rick 386 On: Tue Jan 05, 2010 11:15 am

Greg,

You know if you got that fridge installed and well stocked, you might get some help to finish the project...................


Just sayin' :whistle:




Rick
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Stoker Coal Boiler: AA 260 heating both sides of twin farmhouse
Hot Air Coal Stoker Stove: LL Hyfire II w/ coaltrol in garage
Coal Size/Type: Pea in AA 260, Rice in LL Hyfire II
Other Heating: Gas fired infared at work

Re: My current huge project

PostBy: titleist1 On: Tue Jan 05, 2010 12:51 pm

LsFarm wrote:OK, from the instalation instructions, I need a minimum of 34" from finish floor to countertop, I have 34 1/4" from finished floor [I put down some pieces of slate and added for thinset] to the bottom of the countertop., Pretty close, I may raise these cabinets 1/2" just to be safe.

Thanks again for the heads up..

Greg L.


Nice looking cab's....look like Cherry?

I would definitely add the 1/2", and if I had it lying around I would use 3/4" ply, since the replacement dishwasher 12 years from now will probably need 34 3/8" if your luck is like mine!

Usually I am a day late with suggestions like that, glad you caught it.
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Hot Air Coal Stoker Stove: Harman Mag Stoker (old style) one in basement, one in workshop
Hand Fed Coal Stove: Harman Mark III on standby for long power outages
Coal Size/Type: Rice/Anthracite; Nut/Anthracite

Re: My current huge project

PostBy: LsFarm On: Tue Jan 05, 2010 3:06 pm

No, you guys caught it,, thanks again !

Now, about that well stocked fridge... it would be a heck of a road trip... I'm about 585 miles from Superior coal.. a 9-10 hour drive ! Adn after several days of work and drinking.. to drive back home... ouch!!

I've decided that now that the holidays are past, and I didn't get done enough to entertain for them.. I'll aim for a family Easter get-together. That will give me a month or two of 'breathing room'.

Greg L
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Stoker Coal Boiler: Axeman Anderson 260
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Baseburners & Antiques: Keystone 11, Art Garland


Re: My current huge project

PostBy: titleist1 On: Thu Jan 07, 2010 2:51 pm

Greg, How about some more progress pics?!?! You aren't slacking off are you?? :D

One thing I did that I am real happy with is to install lighting under the uppers. Don't know if you already considered it or not, but I would definitely recommend it. We have a cathedral ceiling which makes task lighting difficult and these do the job. I forget offhand what make / model but I'll look it up if you want the info. I know they are 5 watt xenon bulbs which don't get hot like the halogen ones do. It is a low voltage system, I placed the transformer on top of the uppers hidden by the crown moulding and installed a wall switch below it. The flexible stranded wire is installed in a track and the bulbs attach to the track and stab into the stranded copper for power. You can insert as many as your transformer is rated for anywhere along the track to customize the light footprint. This pic gives an idea of the light they throw off.

Wait until after the electrical inspector won't be coming around again to do it so he won't offer any more "help"!

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Hot Air Coal Stoker Stove: Harman Mag Stoker (old style) one in basement, one in workshop
Hand Fed Coal Stove: Harman Mark III on standby for long power outages
Coal Size/Type: Rice/Anthracite; Nut/Anthracite

Re: My current huge project

PostBy: coalkirk On: Thu Jan 07, 2010 5:05 pm

They work great and in most cases because they are low voltage DC do not need to be inspected.
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Re: My current huge project

PostBy: 009to090 On: Thu Jan 07, 2010 7:15 pm

Low voltage DC can be run thru the cabinets. 110vac can not legally be run thru cabinets
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Stoker Coal Boiler: EFM 520 HighBoy
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Coal Size/Type: Anthracite Rice

Re: My current huge project

PostBy: coalkirk On: Thu Jan 07, 2010 7:27 pm

DVC500 at last wrote:Low voltage DC can be run thru the cabinets. 110vac can not legally be run thru cabinets

I think it can but it has to be in conduit or be the metal armored type wiring. I'd go with low voltage. It's cheaper to operate too.
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Stoker Coal Boiler: Harman VF3000
Coal Size/Type: antrhcite/rice coal

Re: My current huge project

PostBy: LsFarm On: Fri Jan 08, 2010 2:24 am

I wired for over cabinet lights, with switch controls.. and under cabinet wiring, with switches on the lights themselves.

I'll attach a photo or two here..I've been flying since tuesday the 5th, so there are no new photos since the weekend..

Greg

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I took photos of all burried wires, they are pulled through 'old work' wire boxes now that the cabinets are on the walls. Photos taken to locate the wires under the drywall
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many of the cabinets are up. The island will be next.
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Stoker Coal Boiler: Axeman Anderson 260
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Re: My current huge project

PostBy: Freddy On: Fri Jan 08, 2010 7:16 am

Greg wrote "<stapled up radiant heat> is not as good as conducting heat as the concrete suspended slab on the first floor."

For sure. The water temp in staple up wants to be higher than the concrete too. I put 3 1/2" of fiberglass under the tubing to help the heat to go up, but alas, I was sweating in my shop under the tubes. Someone told me I needed foil ..... something about the reflectivity of it makes the difference. Also, the foil MUST be at least 2 1/2" from the tubing....something about the length of the radiant heat wave. I used that foil bubble wrap and immediately it made a HUGE difference. I no longer sweat in my shop and the ceramic tile floors are nice & comfy. I wonder if the fiberglass helps at all, but it's nice for sound reduction.
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Stoker Coal Boiler: Axeman Anderson 130 (pea)
Hot Air Coal Stoker Stove: Reading piece o' junk in the barn (rice)
Coal Size/Type: Pea size, Superior, deep mined

Re: My current huge project

PostBy: LsFarm On: Mon Jan 11, 2010 2:36 pm

I ordered foil-faced R11 to put in the joist spaces to reflect the heat up to the underside of the floor deck.. the pex is 'suspended' from the bottom of the deck.. I could have bought the aluminum plates that snap over the pex, but they are noisy from the expansion/contraction of the pex tubing. The foil-faced insulation should do the trick. The aluminum plates conduct the heat to the plywood faster, but still must have insulation in the joist space..

With the foil-faced insulation in the joist space, about 3-4" under the floor, the whole space gets hot, and the plywood is evenly heated. Slower heat up, but more even distribution.. and for me,, a little less money spent.. the aluminum plates for the whole under floor would be several hundred dollars..

I also spent some time and installed part of the trim kit for the double fridge/freezer, and I like the results. Next will be the 2x6 wall at the outside end of the island, this will support the slab of granite bar top.. gotta make it strong, it will be attached directly to the floor joists, not the flooring.

Greg L

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Re: My current huge project

PostBy: sterling40man On: Mon Jan 11, 2010 3:03 pm

Now that's a frige! :D Great job Greg!
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Re: My current huge project

PostBy: LsFarm On: Mon Jan 11, 2010 3:32 pm

This double fridge/freezer is one of the best-kept secrets in the industry.. these are Frigidaire units. Freezer only and Fridge only, countertop depth, 16.5 cuft each.. From Sears Kenmore, with the trim kit around $2200.. A Subzero or Wolf, or KitchenAid etc.. all north of $11K.. so a huge price difference..

and for most of us.. they look the same.. maybe even better than the big buck models.. The rest of the appliances are KitchenAid.. Dishwasher, TrashMasher, warming oven, convection over and microwave oven,, and cooktop stove unit, with 'periscope' pop up fan in the island..

Greg L
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Stoker Coal Boiler: Axeman Anderson 260
Hand Fed Coal Boiler: Self-built 'Big Bertha' SS Boiler
Baseburners & Antiques: Keystone 11, Art Garland

Re: My current huge project

PostBy: SMITTY On: Mon Jan 11, 2010 3:35 pm

WOW! You could stock enough beer in that to last me a week! :shock: :D
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Stoker Coal Boiler: Patriot Coal - custom built by Jim Dorsey
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Coal Size/Type: Rice / Blaschak anthracite
Other Heating: Oil fired Burnham boiler

Re: My current huge project

PostBy: RMA On: Mon Jan 11, 2010 3:50 pm

Greg,

I was reading through your posts of a really ambitious project...Gonna be super, for sure.

I did notice one entry, that you made, that really got my attention:

I went to HD and bought a new piece of #4 aluminum.. it 'only' cost anothe $200 or so..


I don't know much about wiring but I think that in my neck of the woods (NJ) Aluminum House wiring is a Major no-no.
Maybe it's desirable for some applications, as yours....

Bob
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Re: My current huge project

PostBy: 009to090 On: Mon Jan 11, 2010 5:18 pm

RMA wrote:I don't know much about wiring but I think that in my neck of the woods (NJ) Aluminum House wiring is a Major no-no.
Maybe it's desirable for some applications, as yours....
Bob


Bob, Al in NJ is acceptable as long as all connections are made with Electrical Paste. My #4 for the range and A/C passed inspection, no problem.
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Stoker Coal Boiler: EFM 520 HighBoy
Hot Air Coal Stoker Stove: DVC-500 x 2
Coal Size/Type: Anthracite Rice