Taxes, taxes everywhere!

Re: Taxes, taxes everywhere!

PostBy: SMITTY On: Sat Dec 05, 2009 10:42 pm

I hear that! :wtf:

I thought this was "the land of the free .... :confused:
SMITTY
 
Stoker Coal Boiler: Patriot Coal - custom built by Jim Dorsey
Hand Fed Coal Stove: Harman Mark III (not currently in use)
Coal Size/Type: Rice / Blaschak anthracite
Other Heating: Oil fired Burnham boiler

Re: Taxes, taxes everywhere!

PostBy: wlape3 On: Sun Dec 06, 2009 6:35 pm

SMITTY wrote:I hear that! :wtf:

I thought this was "the land of the free .... :confused:


Used to be, now you just have to be brave to live here... :bop:
wlape3
 
Stove/Furnace Make: Alaska
Stove/Furnace Model: 140 auger, forced hot air

Re: Taxes, taxes everywhere!

PostBy: stockingfull On: Mon Dec 07, 2009 11:37 am

Don't feel bad, boyz. I have less than 1/2 acre and two-story colonial, built in 1973, about 3500 ft2.

School taxes alone here are nearly $9K, a scandal, village and town taxes another $5K, total $14K+/yr.
stockingfull
 
Stove/Furnace Make: Yellow Flame
Stove/Furnace Model: W.A. 150 Stoker Furnace


Re: Taxes, taxes everywhere!

PostBy: wlape3 On: Mon Dec 07, 2009 11:51 am

Makes me wonder what is going to happen when we just can't afford those taxes any more. In this part of NY there are a lot of older homes going to seed because their owners can't afford upkeep on fixed retirement income and pay their taxes. STAR has been cut back as have other service elderly benefit from.

It would be nice if the legislators cut back on their perks instead of on school budgets or elder care. It's a crime what these bums make for doing next to nothing. Time for a shakeup in Albany. To bad NY voters just don't seem to have the guts to turn out these career freeloaders. :mad:

Politics should be a call to public service, not a profession! :mad3:
wlape3
 
Stove/Furnace Make: Alaska
Stove/Furnace Model: 140 auger, forced hot air

Re: Taxes, taxes everywhere!

PostBy: jpete On: Mon Dec 07, 2009 8:22 pm

Ever read what some people like Thomas Paine thought about "pensioners"? As in, anyone who takes a pension from the government. :D

Let's just say it's not favorable.
jpete
 
Hand Fed Coal Stove: Harman Mk II
Coal Size/Type: Stove, Nut, Pea
Other Heating: Dino juice

Re: Taxes, taxes everywhere!

PostBy: ken On: Tue Dec 08, 2009 10:08 am

Stockingfull , thats just crazy. I'd be out of there in a heart beat.
ken
 
Stove/Furnace Make: Keystoker - Rice Coal
Stove/Furnace Model: 75K - Bay Window - Direct Vent

Re: Taxes, taxes everywhere!

PostBy: stockingfull On: Tue Dec 08, 2009 12:11 pm

ken wrote:Stockingfull , thats just crazy. I'd be out of there in a heart beat.

:secret: That's why I have to shovel coal, man. :shots:
stockingfull
 
Stove/Furnace Make: Yellow Flame
Stove/Furnace Model: W.A. 150 Stoker Furnace

Re: Taxes, taxes everywhere!

PostBy: tvb On: Tue Dec 08, 2009 12:18 pm

stockingfull wrote:Don't feel bad, boyz. I have less than 1/2 acre and two-story colonial, built in 1973, about 3500 ft2.

School taxes alone here are nearly $9K, a scandal, village and town taxes another $5K, total $14K+/yr.


Nearly $8k here for 1/4 acre, in town, 1700 sf of hundred year old lumber. Sewage is another $1000 year.
tvb
 
Stove/Furnace Make: Alaska
Stove/Furnace Model: Channing III

Re: Taxes, taxes everywhere!

PostBy: wlape3 On: Tue Dec 08, 2009 2:47 pm

tvb wrote:Nearly $8k here for 1/4 acre, in town, 1700 sf of hundred year old lumber. Sewage is another $1000 year.


When I lived in Camden county I was paying peanuts for sewage because our township had it's own treatment plant. Then, the county decided to force us into hooking up to the new county wide sewage treatment plant. My sewer bills quadrupled and I had to still pay my township! In 1996 I was paying about $180 a quarter. This was a flat fee since they said paying by water use would be unfair to families. Well, I don't know how flat fees contribute to water conservation in an area where droughts occurred every other year. Sometimes I think these guys just don't use any common sense. :x
wlape3
 
Stove/Furnace Make: Alaska
Stove/Furnace Model: 140 auger, forced hot air

Re: Taxes, taxes everywhere!

PostBy: SMITTY On: Wed Dec 09, 2009 2:30 am

tvb wrote:Nearly $8k here for 1/4 acre, in town, 1700 sf of hundred year old lumber. Sewage is another $1000 year.

Christ! I would have flown off the deep end loooong ago if I were paying that! :eek2: :eek2: I have a septic tank that I have yet to pump, & well water ..... but a pump replacement in January cost me $1,400 because I didn't want to deal with the cold ..... and made the mistake of hiring a crook ....

I base my complaints on relatives I have that pay $100 per year in property taxes (no, I didn't forget any zeros!) on 100+ acres in the midwest. When they hear what we pay, they nearly fall unconscious!
SMITTY
 
Stoker Coal Boiler: Patriot Coal - custom built by Jim Dorsey
Hand Fed Coal Stove: Harman Mark III (not currently in use)
Coal Size/Type: Rice / Blaschak anthracite
Other Heating: Oil fired Burnham boiler

Re: Taxes, taxes everywhere!

PostBy: Black_And_Blue On: Wed Dec 09, 2009 9:06 am

Typical, all the Lefty A.G.W. and H.C. reform supporters complaining about taxes....ha ha.
Black_And_Blue
 
Hot Air Coal Stoker Stove: Alaska 140

Re: Taxes, taxes everywhere!

PostBy: stockingfull On: Wed Dec 09, 2009 1:54 pm

What makes you think everybody's complaining, B&B?

I posted up mine so people in other places wouldn't think theirs were so bad.

Nobody likes higher taxes; the question is "who's going to pave and plow the road if somebody doesn't collect them?" To say nothing of fighting wars on terror?

All we've been debating lately is whether the gov't needs to step into these other areas because the pvt sector either has created or isn't solving a problem. That's the classic reason for government action of all kinds, at all levels.
stockingfull
 
Stove/Furnace Make: Yellow Flame
Stove/Furnace Model: W.A. 150 Stoker Furnace

Re: Taxes, taxes everywhere!

PostBy: tvb On: Wed Dec 09, 2009 2:42 pm

Black_And_Blue wrote:Typical, all the Lefty A.G.W. and H.C. reform supporters complaining about taxes....ha ha.


I don't really think I have much grounds to complain on. I knew what the taxes were before I bought the house. Income taxes on the other hand ... naw, I feel kinda lucky that I pay as much as I do as it reminds me that I make some decent money. Sure I'd rather keep it and spend it on other stuff, but as SF points out, I like my roads plowed and my kids educated.

That sewer bill on the other hand gets me pissed every quarter when it comes in because we are really careful with our water use and I pay the same amount for waste water as the buffoon down the street who feels the need to wash his driveway weekly.
tvb
 
Stove/Furnace Make: Alaska
Stove/Furnace Model: Channing III

Re: Taxes, taxes everywhere!

PostBy: SMITTY On: Wed Dec 09, 2009 4:05 pm

What I don't understand is, 30 ..... hell ... even 15 years ago, people made less money, & there were less people -- less income tax revenue for the state/towns ..... yet we had FREE trash pickup, the roads were ALWAYS cleared/sanded after a storm & roads got repaired.

Here we are in '09 with people making money hand over fist (even in the recession, compared to then), & we have to pay for trash removal, our taxes increase every year ... yet cities/towns are constantly complaining of going broke, the sky is always falling when schools are brought up in conversation, our roads are in worse shape than ever ....... etc etc etc.!!

Somebody is making A shitload of money vaporize into thin air ..... :confused:
SMITTY
 
Stoker Coal Boiler: Patriot Coal - custom built by Jim Dorsey
Hand Fed Coal Stove: Harman Mark III (not currently in use)
Coal Size/Type: Rice / Blaschak anthracite
Other Heating: Oil fired Burnham boiler

Re: Taxes, taxes everywhere!

PostBy: Black_And_Blue On: Wed Dec 09, 2009 4:28 pm

Inflation, the hidden rape.

Add in the extra corruption factor and there you have it.
Black_And_Blue
 
Hot Air Coal Stoker Stove: Alaska 140