stockingfull wrote:Of course, Gore's not a scientist. But he's spent more time on this subject than any of us has, and he knows where the scientists on this subject are, and he can report on what they're saying in reaction to the news. It's either something big, or it ain't.
I'd be more than willing to debate Gore on this topic and would be willing to bet I'd bury him. I'm completely serious when I say that too. He's nothing but a mouthpiece hence the reason he has refused to debate anyone on this issue in a public forum.
Does anybody here, even the most ardent fossil fuel advocate, think Big Energy is above that sort of thing?
No they aren't but the new "Big energy" companies have much more to lose that the old ones. You do realize there is more money to made by those that support this? The profits in energy will be shifted from one market to another although at a much larger cost to the end consumer. Companies like Shell Oil, Exxon, Goldman Sachs and hundreds of others you think of being losers will be be reaping huge benefits. Do you really think they will sit on the sidelines and watch their business's crumble? They will be happy to provide this product and once regulated with a guaranteed market you can expect the big boys to come in and sweep these upstarts aside.
Had a very good meeting with Shell yesterday. Only a minor part of the
agenda, but I expect they will accept an invitation to act as a strategic
partner and will contribute to a studentship fund though under certain
conditions. I now have to wait for the top-level soundings at their end
after the meeting to result in a response. We, however, have to discuss
asap what a strategic partnership means, what a studentship fund is, etc,
etc. By email? In person?
I hear that Shell's name came up at the TC meeting. I'm ccing this to Tim
who I think was involved in that discussion so all concerned know not to
make an independent approach at this stage without consulting me!
I'm talking to Shell International's climate change team but this approach
will do equally for the new foundation as it's only one step or so off
Shell's equivalent of a board level. I do know a little about the Fdn and
what kind of projects they are looking for. It could be relevant for the
new building, incidentally, though opinions are mixed as to whether it's
within the remit.
I'll also note that wihtin the relesaed files was list of "potential funding" sources that included four private companies heavily invested in the renewable energy market including this one in the US:
The Who wrote:Meet the new boss
Same as the old boss