BIT COAL FOR STEAM LOCOMOTIVE

BIT COAL FOR STEAM LOCOMOTIVE

PostBy: New Hope Engineer On: Mon Dec 07, 2009 12:51 pm

I am looking to get 22 - 24 tons delivered to new hope pa to burn in the steam loco.
We are currently getting coal from some mine in western pa for 110.00 a ton delivered.This has got to be some of the most crappy coal i have ever burned. :mad: It has alot rock in it and is clinkering up like you wouldnt believe!
If anyone knows of a dealer or mine that could help me out would be great.
mark
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Re: BIT COAL FOR STEAM LOCOMOTIVE

PostBy: gambler On: Mon Dec 07, 2009 1:11 pm

Only 22-24 tons?? Bring the train over and take back a train load of bit.
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Re: BIT COAL FOR STEAM LOCOMOTIVE

PostBy: Berlin On: Mon Dec 07, 2009 1:23 pm

what is the name of the mine? Mark at Valier coalyard supplies coal to loco's all over the country. give him a call, tell him your issues and I'm sure he'll be able to sell you coal that won't do any of those things. http://www.valiercoalyard.com/contacts.html
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Re: BIT COAL FOR STEAM LOCOMOTIVE

PostBy: 009to090 On: Mon Dec 07, 2009 1:52 pm

I agree with Gambler..... Steer that loco WEST, and bring back a couple car loads.
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Re: BIT COAL FOR STEAM LOCOMOTIVE

PostBy: Sting On: Mon Dec 07, 2009 2:06 pm

Bring a load of Ant tracks coal this way -- take a load of bit back :D :D :D :D

Hey really 110.00 a ton delivered to where from WHERE????

That cannot cover the cost of freight :shock:
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Re: BIT COAL FOR STEAM LOCOMOTIVE

PostBy: danzig On: Tue Dec 08, 2009 10:23 am

call rosebud mining in kittaning pa. thet have good quality coal
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Re: BIT COAL FOR STEAM LOCOMOTIVE

PostBy: steamup On: Mon Dec 14, 2009 1:26 pm

Talk to the folks at Penn coal. They may have some good suggestions. Not all bit is equal.

http://www.penncoal.com/default.php


If you are talking model steam loco, the buy "POCAHONTAS LIVE STEAM COAL". It is a bit pricy but well worth it. I have used coal from the pocahontas vein with great enjoyment.

If you are a full scale person, then you will need something that is in bigger pieces.
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Re: BIT COAL FOR STEAM LOCOMOTIVE

PostBy: New Hope Engineer On: Tue Dec 15, 2009 7:18 am

steamup wrote:Talk to the folks at Penn coal. They may have some good suggestions. Not all bit is equal.

http://www.penncoal.com/default.php


If you are talking model steam loco, the buy "POCAHONTAS LIVE STEAM COAL". It is a bit pricy but well worth it. I have used coal from the pocahontas vein with great enjoyment.

If you are a full scale person, then you will need something that is in bigger pieces.

thanx for the link,i fowarded it to the person in charge.
yea we are the real thing.(full scale) :)
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Re: BIT COAL FOR STEAM LOCOMOTIVE

PostBy: packard bill On: Wed Dec 23, 2009 5:09 pm

How often do you brush the tubes with Bit.? I'll bet that's a delicious job with bituminous. Do you burn it because of cost, btu value/lb, or fire-up time? With all the anthracite here and small "drags" of excursion runs, why not burn coal with less filth? I'm not being a smart a**, I am genuinely interested in knowing.

packard bill
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Re: BIT COAL FOR STEAM LOCOMOTIVE

PostBy: New Hope Engineer On: Wed Dec 23, 2009 9:14 pm

the locomotive was made to burn bit.hard coal would not be able to keep up with the steam needs.you would need a larger firebox. ;)
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Re: BIT COAL FOR STEAM LOCOMOTIVE

PostBy: SMITTY On: Wed Dec 23, 2009 9:55 pm

The steam locomotive likes it fast & hot, I take it ....... just like soooo many of my exes .... :rimshot: :alone:
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Re: BIT COAL FOR STEAM LOCOMOTIVE

PostBy: rockwood On: Wed Dec 23, 2009 10:15 pm

Are (or were) there any locomotives designed for hard coal? I haven't ever heard of one.
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Re: BIT COAL FOR STEAM LOCOMOTIVE

PostBy: 009to090 On: Wed Dec 23, 2009 10:22 pm

Yeah, there were some here on the east coast.
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Re: BIT COAL FOR STEAM LOCOMOTIVE

PostBy: Yanche On: Wed Dec 23, 2009 11:37 pm

rockwood wrote:Are (or were) there any locomotives designed for hard coal? I haven't ever heard of one.
Both the Lehigh Valley and NJ Central rail roads had steam locomotives. As a young child I rode the NJ Central passenger trains across central NJ to relatives several times a year. It was a big deal for a young kid to do it on your own. Of course my parents put me on the train and my aunt or uncle was there to pick me up at the destination. Here's a link to the Lehigh Valley engines:


http://www.american-rails.com/lehigh-valley-railroad-steam-locomotives.html
This link is broken, either the page no longer exists or there is some other issue like a typo.
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Re: BIT COAL FOR STEAM LOCOMOTIVE

PostBy: New Hope Engineer On: Thu Dec 24, 2009 10:34 am

Yanche wrote:
rockwood wrote:Are (or were) there any locomotives designed for hard coal? I haven't ever heard of one.
Both the Lehigh Valley and NJ Central rail roads had steam locomotives. As a young child I rode the NJ Central passenger trains across central NJ to relatives several times a year. It was a big deal for a young kid to do it on your own. Of course my parents put me on the train and my aunt or uncle was there to pick me up at the destination. Here's a link to the Lehigh Valley engines:


http://www.american-rails.com/lehigh-valley-railroad-steam-locomotives.html
This link is broken, either the page no longer exists or there is some other issue like a typo.

the reading and NYO&W also had hard coal burners.
here is a cnj hard coal burner in flemington nj from 1953
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