Question: EFM Automatic Ash Removal

Question: EFM Automatic Ash Removal

PostBy: Barnzy On: Thu Dec 10, 2009 10:28 pm

I have an Old Electric Furnace Man Owners Booklet, Form No. S-48-8,(must be 1948), that
explains the general operation and care of the boiler/furnace.
Its an 11 page book, no pictures, and states on page 3, that the ashes drop off and are picked up by the ash worm and conveyed to the ash elevator which deposits the ash into sealed containers.
Does anybody have one of these units?
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Barnzy
 
Stoker Coal Boiler: EFM AP-520-1
Coal Size/Type: Rice -- Anthracite
Stove/Furnace Make: EFM
Stove/Furnace Model: AP-520-1

Re: Question: EFM Automatic Ash Removal

PostBy: Poconoeagle On: Thu Dec 10, 2009 10:55 pm

wow can you scan and post those pages? very good condition!!
Poconoeagle
 
Stove/Furnace Make: Buckwalter & Co. , EFM520
Stove/Furnace Model: No. 28 Glenwood 1880, Alaska

Re: Question: EFM Automatic Ash Removal

PostBy: Barnzy On: Thu Dec 10, 2009 11:28 pm

Will try to get my daughter to scan them.

Heres a picture of page 3.

RB
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Stoker Coal Boiler: EFM AP-520-1
Coal Size/Type: Rice -- Anthracite
Stove/Furnace Make: EFM
Stove/Furnace Model: AP-520-1

Re: Question: EFM Automatic Ash Removal

PostBy: whistlenut On: Thu Dec 10, 2009 11:41 pm

EFM was doing the ash removal way back in the teens, twenties, thirties with the larger models...much larger!
I've seen them, and these beasts are not made for the "Light in the Sneakers" brigade. I also know of one (not an EFM, but as I remember a GJ perhaps) It was removed in the early 60's, so I was too busy emulating Tiger. and my motto was: every one you miss will be one you never have".....so don't miss often!
..anyway the feed and removal augers were 75 feet long, run by huge (to a little kid)electric motors. Single phase, 220V.
about 6" diameter as I recall. Can't recall much detail, other than it was cool to watch operate.
Could you do it again? Hell yes.....but you need a few minutes to get organized, ignore the traffic noise........
This boiler is now long gone, but the ends are still framed in for a moments notice. :!: :roll:
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whistlenut
 
Stoker Coal Boiler: AA130's,260's, AHS130&260's,EFM900,GJ&VanWert
Hand Fed Coal Boiler: Franks Boiler,Itasca415,NYer130,Van Wert
Hot Air Coal Stoker Furnace: Yellow Flame
Hot Air Coal Stoker Stove: Alaska-4,Keystoker-2,
Hand Fed Coal Stove: Alaska,Gibraltor,Keystone,Vc Vigilant 2
Hand Fed Coal Furnace: Van Wert, NYer's, Ford,Jensen.
Coal Size/Type: Rice,Buck,Pea,Nut&Stove
Other Heating: Oil HWBB

Re: Question: EFM Automatic Ash Removal

PostBy: stoker-man On: Fri Dec 11, 2009 6:41 am

The coal auger and ash removal system is still in the efm building. It's huge and had to be to heat a building the size of a city block.

I grew up with the ash removal system. It was a conveyor that emptied into two ash cans which would hold about a week's worth of ashes. I was supposed to take out a bucket when I went to the barn to feed the horses and dump it in the trench. I hated the job and most of the time the ashes were overflowing in the cellar. I did that until I went into the service and then my father got rid of the stoker.

One of our dealers, Perry Webb, has Amish contacts who make ash removal systems for apartment buildings. They work well, but I don't know the cost.
stoker-man
 
Hand Fed Coal Boiler: 1981 efm wcb-24 in use 365 days a year
Coal Size/Type: Anthracite/Chestnut
Other Heating: Hearthstone wood stove

Re: Question: EFM Automatic Ash Removal

PostBy: Freddy On: Fri Dec 11, 2009 8:16 am

The one and only reason that I thought of coal was that when I was a kid a friend of my father burned coal. I can remember looking into the coal bin and also looking in at the fire. It was an automatic underfeed fire and had a round grate. I think it was EFM, but can't be sure. The other thing I remember was the ashes. It had a pipe coming out of it that would swing from side to side. He had two 30 gallon cans with special covers. It would auto-fill one can and then he'd swing it to the other can. Every couple weeks he'd go empty the cans. I didn't see, but there had to have been an auger in that ash pipe. I'm sure it was not a home made thing.
Freddy
 
Stoker Coal Boiler: Axeman Anderson 130 (pea)
Hot Air Coal Stoker Stove: Reading piece o' junk in the barn (rice)
Coal Size/Type: Pea size, Superior, deep mined

Re: Question: EFM Automatic Ash Removal

PostBy: stoker-man On: Fri Dec 11, 2009 12:19 pm

We have all the original blueprints back to the '20s in drawers. I remember seeing the print for the ash removal. I don't remember seeing any diverter handle on our unit at home, but I remember the 30 gallon ash buckets and about another 60 gallons worth of ash on the floor.
stoker-man
 
Hand Fed Coal Boiler: 1981 efm wcb-24 in use 365 days a year
Coal Size/Type: Anthracite/Chestnut
Other Heating: Hearthstone wood stove

Re: Question: EFM Automatic Ash Removal

PostBy: Poconoeagle On: Fri Dec 11, 2009 2:35 pm

Barnzy wrote:Will try to get my daughter to scan them.

Heres a picture of page 3.

RB



Very cool!! thanks! that would be GRATE :lol: :D 8-)
Poconoeagle
 
Stove/Furnace Make: Buckwalter & Co. , EFM520
Stove/Furnace Model: No. 28 Glenwood 1880, Alaska

Re: Question: EFM Automatic Ash Removal

PostBy: Freddy On: Fri Dec 11, 2009 3:38 pm

stoker-man wrote:I don't remember seeing any diverter handle



Ya know....the memories from when I was 10 yrs old may be skewed.... I clearly remember the two cans with lids that accepted the ash pipe elbow, and I remember the ash pipe coming out at an angle so it looked like if swung to the other can it would make that same angle in the other direction, but now that you say....maybe the pipe didn't swing over to the other. Maybe he had to move the full can & put the empty can under the pipe. I wish I had a photo, but all I have is that memory. He had a long dirt driveway and it had a coal ash topping. That was the one and only coal burner I saw in my entire life until I bought my Axeman some 45 years later.
Freddy
 
Stoker Coal Boiler: Axeman Anderson 130 (pea)
Hot Air Coal Stoker Stove: Reading piece o' junk in the barn (rice)
Coal Size/Type: Pea size, Superior, deep mined

Re: Question: EFM Automatic Ash Removal

PostBy: Barnzy On: Fri Dec 11, 2009 7:53 pm

Hey Poconoeagle, I thing I got these scans figured out.

Enjoy :)

RB
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Barnzy
 
Stoker Coal Boiler: EFM AP-520-1
Coal Size/Type: Rice -- Anthracite
Stove/Furnace Make: EFM
Stove/Furnace Model: AP-520-1

Re: Question: EFM Automatic Ash Removal

PostBy: Pa Dealer On: Fri Dec 11, 2009 8:41 pm

Way to go Barnzy :D




RY
Pa Dealer
 
Stoker Coal Boiler: EFM 520 DF
Coal Size/Type: Rice
Other Heating: Keystoker
Stove/Furnace Make: EFM DF 520
Stove/Furnace Model: Keystoker

Re: Question: EFM Automatic Ash Removal

PostBy: scrapper_23jr On: Fri Dec 11, 2009 9:00 pm

YES I HAVE SEVERAL IN MY ARCHIVE GARAGE. SCRAPPER
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Re: Question: EFM Automatic Ash Removal

PostBy: Poconoeagle On: Fri Dec 11, 2009 9:02 pm

Barnzy wrote:Hey Poconoeagle, I thing I got these scans figured out.

Enjoy :)

RB



Thats wonderful Barnzy!! thanks mucho!! :) :)
Poconoeagle
 
Stove/Furnace Make: Buckwalter & Co. , EFM520
Stove/Furnace Model: No. 28 Glenwood 1880, Alaska

Re: Question: EFM Automatic Ash Removal

PostBy: Poconoeagle On: Fri Dec 11, 2009 9:06 pm

:D
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Poconoeagle
 
Stove/Furnace Make: Buckwalter & Co. , EFM520
Stove/Furnace Model: No. 28 Glenwood 1880, Alaska

Re: Question: EFM Automatic Ash Removal

PostBy: Barnzy On: Fri Dec 11, 2009 10:00 pm

Hey Scrapper; You have an archive garage?

Ever consider an EFM museum open for public tours?

RB

Check your PM
Barnzy
 
Stoker Coal Boiler: EFM AP-520-1
Coal Size/Type: Rice -- Anthracite
Stove/Furnace Make: EFM
Stove/Furnace Model: AP-520-1