What is a Democrat?

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Re: What is a Democrat?

PostBy: Black_And_Blue On: Sat Dec 12, 2009 9:41 am

ErikLaurence wrote:
Black_And_Blue wrote:
The republican is the only form of government which is not eternally at open or secret war with the rights of mankind.

-TJ * Letter to William Hunter (11 March 1790)



That's republican with a small "r".

He is not referring to the Republican party which did not exist during TJ's lifetime.


I thought it was self evident.
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Re: What is a Democrat?

PostBy: KLook On: Sat Dec 12, 2009 5:05 pm

I like what I see so far. No one is willing to step forward and declare themselves a Democrat and then tell me what it stands for. What the hell, would someone tell me what a Republican is? I am neither so enlighten me. Where is the usually vocal, typing like a fool stockinful when you want him? It was a simple question. What do you stand for?

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Re: What is a Democrat?

PostBy: samhill On: Sat Dec 12, 2009 5:18 pm

I`m a democrat but funniest thing I don`t go to neither the far left or right, its just the party that I am in. Don`t agree with everything nor am I against everything that a republican may suggest, guess that kind of makes me middle of the road.
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Re: What is a Democrat?

PostBy: KLook On: Sat Dec 12, 2009 5:25 pm

Everyone thinks they are middle of the road. And generally you surround yourself with like minded people. What do you think a Democrat stands for?

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Re: What is a Democrat?

PostBy: samhill On: Sat Dec 12, 2009 6:00 pm

I really don`t think a democrat or a republican stands for anything more than just a label that someone chooses to register as, I used to be a republican & it didn`t change my way of thinking or the way I vote. To me it has become the same as whats your religion or ethnic background, it makes no difference.
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Re: What is a Democrat?

PostBy: KLook On: Sat Dec 12, 2009 6:07 pm

You chose a religion based on your beliefs. You cannot chose your ethnicity. You chose to support the Democrat's for some reason. But you have no idea what they believe?

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Re: What is a Democrat?

PostBy: samhill On: Sat Dec 12, 2009 7:03 pm

Are you saying that just because someone is registered democrat he or she must believe a certain way & likewise for a registered republican? If so I truely fell sorry for you, one is no better than the other. If a democrat is so evil is a independant less evil? Do you really think that being a republican is right & all others are wrong?
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Re: What is a Democrat?

PostBy: tvb On: Sat Dec 12, 2009 7:27 pm

samhill wrote: Do you really think that being a republican is right & all others are wrong?


Isn't that the American way? Think about it - how many religions say you must belief in their set of theorems or else?
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Re: What is a Democrat?

PostBy: samhill On: Sat Dec 12, 2009 7:37 pm

Religion & politics are two different animals but from experience I can say that most if not all army chaplins can do services in several religions. But getting back to politics klook how is it that people can run for office on both political tickets? I myself don`t think they should be able to but I see it on just about every local election ballot & I normally just don`t vote for that position at all unless I know first hand of a viable write-in.
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Re: What is a Democrat?

PostBy: KLook On: Sun Dec 13, 2009 12:04 am

First of all, I am not a Rep. as stated above. You think you are an independent thinker but you register Dem. which says something about you. What is it saying is all I'm asking. If you don't agree with either party why are you a Dem.? Fess up. Don't attack me for asking the question.
You are the one that invoked the religion thing. I said religion was a choice. period.
As to people running on both ballots. I have never seen that. If there is no opposition, why not I guess. Sounds kind of strange though. I remember my business partners father running for county sheriff a couple of times as a Rep. but could not win. He switched to a Dem. and won the first year he ran. Was he a different man? I don't think so.
I don't use quotes well, so sorry I did not post your comments in this post. I think you know you made them however. Don't take this personaly just debate it with me and don't change the subject. And now that the fabulous tvb has weighed in, why don you answer the origional question instead of taking pot shots? What is a Democrat?
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Re: What is a Democrat?

PostBy: samhill On: Sun Dec 13, 2009 8:57 am

Klook, your asking for an answer that you want to hear but I don`t know what it is. I`m sorry about labeling you a republican I just thought because of your apparent dislike for democrats that you were one. The only reference of religion I made was that it made no difference to me as to what I thought of a person. I stated that I didn`t think a party choice stood for much of anything, I was under the impression that you had to be registered with a party to vote in primaries, I believe thats the way it was maybe not so any longer. Now my question is what does the fact that I`m a dem. say to you? Do you believe that it somehow makes me inferior, less patriotic, or what is just so wrong about being a dem. in you opinion? Nothing personal will be taken, just curious.
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Re: What is a Democrat?

PostBy: KLook On: Sun Dec 13, 2009 5:59 pm

Sorry I have not replied samhill. I have been out all day and I have to go out again. I will get back in tonight and give you an answer so we can continue this process.

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Re: What is a Democrat?

PostBy: cokehead On: Sun Dec 13, 2009 7:42 pm

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Re: What is a Democrat?

PostBy: KLook On: Sun Dec 13, 2009 10:50 pm

First of all samhill, you have turned the question around. I asked what is a Dem. and you act like a perfect politician and say what is it to you? What do you care? You obviousely don't like them. You think they are inferior to yourself. I should refuse to play along, but I will give an answer, an expect you to reciprocate.
Many of the Dems. in this forum take a moral high ground. They think they are the party of science and enlightenment. This has been so for many years I find as I read more political history. It has been my experience that the more you do for people the less they do for themselves or anyone else. The Dems. support free everything. I live in one of the most economically depressed areas of the country. According to the Gov. I have seen firsthand the results of gov. handouts. I know entire families on "disabilities" because it is a way of life. The people in charge of these handouts are gov. workers and have job security because of the number of "clients" they have. They don't try to reduce the number of "poor" people the have under them. The gov. always gets bigger and bigger with this system. My state has been controlled by the Dems. for many years. We are in financial ruins because we have to many social welfare programs for our tax base to support. And school mandates that are made in the capitol and not funded fully are destroying the rural schools. They schools could be operated much cheaper, but they have to have crazy programs and all new schools in order to educate the kids. I guess I should consider myself dumb just because I attended a 2 room schoolhouse in grade school. Yeah, a gym and performing arts center and free musical instruments and a science lab would have been nice, BUT we couldn't afford it and guess what? We still can't! But the Dems. in state gov. pushed it through and borrowed the money. Not to mention our laptop computer program. I learned to learn. Reading, Writing, and Arithmatic. I raise my sons to work. They got college educations and have good jobs. No they do not work for the gov. They like to work. One works for an evil insurance company, in the computer dept. and one works for our inept, over paid, crooked health care system. Also in computers. I had a raving liberal Dem. from Maryland that moved up here to "retire" tell me that he was looking to go back to work and naturally, he wanted a gov. job. "I"ll suck from the gov. teat until it runs dry." he proclaimed. And I responded, " Yeah, we need a whole bunch more people like you right now." He sums up the Dems. for me. Either get a gov. job and hang around the water cooler or get a free handout. The other kind is found on this site. They love to promote their "concern" for the poor, the disadvantaged, the downtrodden, etc. They are "intellectuals" and have all the answers. Just ask them. Things would be great if I were in charge they will tell you. Trust me.
Least you think I love Reps. I think the No Child Left Behind program is absolutely crazy. My brother is a retired teacher and my best friend is the local fed. rep. of the program. It is just big gov. micromanaging at an insane level. The Rep. also spent crazy money when Ronnie Reagan got in building up the military. I saw tons of money wasted on the local naval base. And obviously, I am not religious. They tend to support business a little to much and ignore the environment a little to much.
I am in the same camp with Jpete. Stop expecting gov. to solve all problems and create a utopia. The bigger the gov. gets the worse off we are. We cannot afford it and "it" keeps driving our jobs overseas worsening the situation. There is much more of course, but that should give you some ammo to attack me with. Go for it.
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Re: What is a Democrat?

PostBy: jeromemsn On: Mon Dec 14, 2009 12:51 am

A Democrat is a U.S. citizen.
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