What is a Democrat?

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What is a Democrat?

PostBy: KLook On: Fri Dec 11, 2009 8:36 pm

Ok folks, here we go. A chance to show my ignorance. :D
The way I see it is, Communist, Fascist, Marxist and Nazis are all Socialist. They hold most everything in common except for a few key things.
Communist are about class. Nazis are about race and fascist are about nation. I think Marxist are just against anything that involves liberty and capatilism. :D
Here is some of what Mussolini rose to power promoting.
Lower voting age to 18 25 for represtentatives and universal sufferage, including women.
End the draft
8 hour work day
The creation of various gov. bodies run by workers representatives.(or Obama?)
Reform of old age and pensions systems
Build rigid school system to condition the youth
Tax the crap out of the rich that would amount to a one time partial expropriation of all wealtn
Seize all goods belonging to religious congregations and abolish revenues.
review all military contracts and sequester 85% of all war profits
Nationalize all arms and explosives industries.

Does any of that sound like a Rep.?? I have found that even the "experts" cant agree on what is LIberal and what is Right Wing. That is because each group has seized on whatever method they can to promote themselves when it is convienient.
This is just a brief discription, I am still reading and learning and I probably never will figure it out.

So, what is a Democrat?
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Re: What is a Democrat?

PostBy: Black_And_Blue On: Fri Dec 11, 2009 10:13 pm

"Give me control of a nation's money and I care not who makes it's laws".

—Mayer Amschel Bauer Rothschild.


ETA :

"I am a most unhappy man. I have unwittingly ruined my country. A great industrial nation is controlled by its system of credit. Our system of credit is concentrated. The growth of the nation, therefore, and all our activities are in the hands of a few men. We have come to be one of the worst ruled, one of the most completely controlled and dominated Governments in the civilized world no longer a Government by free opinion, no longer a Government by conviction and the vote of the majority, but a Government by the opinion and duress of a small group of dominant men."

-Woodrow Wilson, after signing the Federal Reserve into existence
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Re: What is a Democrat?

PostBy: SMITTY On: Fri Dec 11, 2009 11:24 pm

KLook wrote:So, what is a Democrat?

I'm gonna plead the mom clause on that one .... (mom clause: " IF YOU DON'T HAVE ANYTHING NICE TO SAY .......) :D
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Re: What is a Democrat?

PostBy: mikeandgerry On: Sat Dec 12, 2009 12:33 am

Hard to say what a democrat or republican is except watered down liberals and convervatives. It's easier to define liberals and conservatives, so I offer this, a short history of the western world:

Condensed Western History

For those that don't know about history...... here is a
condensed version.

Humans originally existed as members of small bands of
nomadic hunters/gatherers. They lived on deer in the
mountains during the summer and would go to the coast and
live on fish and lobster in the winter.

The two most important events in all of history were:

1. The invention of beer, and
2. The invention of the wheel.

The wheel was invented to get man to the beer.

These were the foundation of modern civilization and
together were the catalyst for the splitting of humanity
into two distinct subgroups:

1. Liberals
2. Conservatives.

Once beer was discovered, it required grain and that was
the beginning of agriculture. Neither the glass bottle nor
aluminum can were invented yet, so while our early humans
were sitting around waiting for them to be invented, they
just stayed close to the brewery. That's how villages
were formed.

Some men spent their days tracking and killing animals to
barbeque at night while they were drinking beer. This was
the beginning of what is known as the Conservative movement.

Other men who were weaker and less skilled at hunting
learned to live off the conservatives by showing up for the
nightly barbeques and doing the sewing, fetching, and
hairdressing. This was the beginning of the Liberal
movement.

Some of these Liberal men eventually evolved into
women. The rest became known as “girlie-men”.

Some noteworthy liberal achievements include
the domestication of cats, the invention of group hugs,
and the concept of democratic voting to decide
how to divide the meat and beer that Conservatives provided.

Over the years, Conservatives came to be symbolized by the
largest, most powerful land animal on earth, the Elephant.
Liberals are appropriately symbolized by the Jackass.

Modern Liberals like imported beer (with lime added),
but most prefer white wine or imported bottled water. They
like to eat raw fish wrapped in seaweed, but when forced into
eating beef (under loud protest), they demand it well-done.
Quiche, tofu, and hummus are standard liberal fare. Another
interesting evolutionary side note: most of their women have
higher testosterone levels than their men. Most social
workers, personal injury attorneys, journalists, dreamers
in Hollywood and group therapists are liberals. It was Liberals
that invented the designated hitter rule because it wasn't
fair to make the pitcher also bat.

Conservatives drink domestic beer. They eat red meat and
still provide for their women. Conservatives are big-game
hunters, rodeo cowboys, lumberjacks, construction workers,
firemen, engineers, medical doctors, police officers, corporate
executives, athletes, and US Marines. Conservatives who
own companies hire other conservatives who want to work for
a living.

Liberals produce little or nothing. They like to govern the
producers and decide what to do with the production.
Liberals believe Europeans are more enlightened than
Americans. That is why most of the Liberals remained in
Europe when Conservatives were coming to America. They
crept in after the Wild West was tamed and created a
business of trying to get more for nothing.

Here ends today's lesson in Western History....... It
should be noted that a Liberal may have a continuing urge to
angrily respond to the above without forwarding.

A Conservative will simply laugh and be so satisfied of the
absolute truth of this Western History that it will be forwarded
immediately to other conservatives and also to Liberals
just to let them know the real version of Western History hasn't
been manipulated.
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Re: What is a Democrat?

PostBy: topper On: Sat Dec 12, 2009 7:17 am

i didn't know democrats were so simple
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Re: What is a Democrat?

PostBy: SMITTY On: Sat Dec 12, 2009 7:35 am

mikeandgerry wrote:Hard to say what a democrat or republican is except watered down liberals and convervatives. It's easier to define liberals and conservatives, so I offer this, a short history of the western world:

Condensed Western History.........



:rofl: :rofl: :rofl: :punk: :punk:
Thanks for the new email!! :D
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Re: What is a Democrat?

PostBy: tvb On: Sat Dec 12, 2009 7:41 am

Okay, so we can draw one conclusion thus far - conservatives take stuff written by other people off the intertubes and claim it as their own. So, we can deduce that conservatives are okay with stealing.

Go on, this might actually get interesting.
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Re: What is a Democrat?

PostBy: whistlenut On: Sat Dec 12, 2009 7:43 am

But fortunately Richard was kind enough to keep me posted on Col Tibbet's grandson's location, and his aircraft of choice...even his 'cargo' capabilities. We are waaaaaaaayyyyyyyy past the cowboy and Indians stage! However...... :discuss: bop2 :taz: :bang: :nana: :rofl: :doh: :surrender: :flush:
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Re: What is a Democrat?

PostBy: SMITTY On: Sat Dec 12, 2009 7:51 am

tvb wrote:Okay, so we can draw one conclusion thus far - conservatives take stuff written by other people off the intertubes and claim it as their own. So, we can deduce that conservatives are okay with stealing.

Go on, this might actually get interesting.

Where in that post did he state it was his? :?:
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Re: What is a Democrat?

PostBy: tvb On: Sat Dec 12, 2009 7:54 am

SMITTY wrote:
tvb wrote:Okay, so we can draw one conclusion thus far - conservatives take stuff written by other people off the intertubes and claim it as their own. So, we can deduce that conservatives are okay with stealing.

Go on, this might actually get interesting.

Where in that post did he state it was his? :?:


Generally, if you post without attribution, it's your writing.
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Re: What is a Democrat?

PostBy: SMITTY On: Sat Dec 12, 2009 7:56 am

Ok .... I'll take your word for it. :|
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Re: What is a Democrat?

PostBy: ErikLaurence On: Sat Dec 12, 2009 8:17 am

So much for "Thoughtful and Intelligent".

Shall we move this thread back to politics?
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Re: What is a Democrat?

PostBy: whistlenut On: Sat Dec 12, 2009 8:41 am

Just kiddin'..................and please.....no more politics....I promise I'll be good! Isn't there something in the Geneva Convention that prohibits that kind of abuse....?

I'll go play outside...it's 12 now....still going down.....damned you smitty, you have melted the ozone layer away, and the PRV has ruptured.....we're all gonna freeze! :mad: :stretcher: :drool: :eek2:
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Re: What is a Democrat?

PostBy: Black_And_Blue On: Sat Dec 12, 2009 9:29 am

Far Americans, the only real way to measure a Federal politician is their adherence to the Constitution.

Parties don't matter anymore. Either you support a limited Federal government with States rights as it was conceived, or you are a traitor to your fellow free man.

Corruption has besieged our original system.
The republican is the only form of government which is not eternally at open or secret war with the rights of mankind.

-TJ * Letter to William Hunter (11 March 1790)
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Re: What is a Democrat?

PostBy: ErikLaurence On: Sat Dec 12, 2009 9:33 am

Black_And_Blue wrote:
The republican is the only form of government which is not eternally at open or secret war with the rights of mankind.

-TJ * Letter to William Hunter (11 March 1790)



That's republican with a small "r".

He is not referring to the Republican party which did not exist during TJ's lifetime.
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