Pea Coal Vs. Chestnut Coal Vs. Stove Coal

Re: Pea Coal Vs. Chestnut Coal Vs. Stove Coal

PostBy: JohnB On: Sat Dec 07, 2013 2:23 pm

A question or two for those buying Blaschak Stove coal in the 40lb bags. I'm thinking of trying some Blaschak Stove in my 50-93 but I'm told it's best to mix stove with nut. Since the sizes in their bags of nut run from pea to stove with the occasional rusty nail I'm wondering how much the sizing varies in the bags of Stove? Is it basically already mixed with nut or primarily Stove? What's the issue with just burning Stove? Does it burn faster because the large chunks allow more air through the bed?
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Re: Pea Coal Vs. Chestnut Coal Vs. Stove Coal

PostBy: Rob R. On: Sat Dec 07, 2013 2:28 pm

John, if you want to burn a mix I would plan on getting a few bags of nut & stove.
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Re: Pea Coal Vs. Chestnut Coal Vs. Stove Coal

PostBy: Dennis On: Sat Dec 07, 2013 7:55 pm

JohnB wrote:A question or two for those buying Blaschak Stove coal in the 40lb bags. I'm thinking of trying some Blaschak Stove in my 50-93 but I'm told it's best to mix stove with nut. Since the sizes in their bags of nut run from pea to stove with the occasional rusty nail I'm wondering how much the sizing varies in the bags of Stove? Is it basically already mixed with nut or primarily Stove? What's the issue with just burning Stove? Does it burn faster because the large chunks allow more air through the bed?

I,m using Blaschak stove this year,You have to get used to shaking it down,it's much harder to shake than nut.last year I tried all sorts of combinations of nut & stove and found out 50%-50% worked better for tending,but was a pain have 2 different sizes to mix.I load the stove size in,then take my poker and stir and compress the coal to make it as tight fitting as possible.I'm getting used to all the extra ash compared to using UAE the last few years.
Dennis
 
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Re: Pea Coal Vs. Chestnut Coal Vs. Stove Coal

PostBy: freetown fred On: Sun Dec 08, 2013 5:33 am

Well I got my 3 ton of NUT/STOVE mix (50-50) with bulk delivery, it mixes itself real nice comin off the truck. I couldn't be happier with the results. Same heat out-put & it seems I'm using quite a bit less coal. I'll know more realistically come April or so. Thanx George :)
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Re: Pea Coal Vs. Chestnut Coal Vs. Stove Coal

PostBy: Dennis On: Sun Dec 08, 2013 7:54 am

I went with 100% stove size,because when shaking down I get a lot of unburnt nut falling thru the grates.I really can't tell much difference yet,since the Blaschak has more ash and seems to be sticking to the sides of the boiler more and restricting heat transfer compared to UAE.As FF said,I will see how much less coal is used in the spring.
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Re: Pea Coal Vs. Chestnut Coal Vs. Stove Coal

PostBy: SuperBeetle On: Sun Dec 08, 2013 8:09 am

I burn all three sizes in my Mark II but mostly pea. It seems to work the best for me and I get very long burn to times and plenty of heat output. Pea coal is very easy to shovel as well. I average 3 tons per year heating just shy of 2000 sq. ft.
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Re: Pea Coal Vs. Chestnut Coal Vs. Stove Coal

PostBy: coalcracker On: Sun Dec 08, 2013 9:29 am

stove coal would heat the best, IF the grates in your stove are large enough to pass the occasional large chunks that fall into the ash pan- if not they'll get stuck and jam up your grate system, and sometimes you have to shut the stove down to remove them, and free up the raker system. Not good, as typically it happens on the coldest days due to Murphy's Law. Sometimes you luck out and can shake it loose or crush it with the grates. My Harman I had a piece of slate stuck in it that didn't burn, and required shutting the stove down one time, to get it loose. If the grates stick open from a large piece stuck in there, then it won't hold a fire, because you can't return the grates to the closed position.

the end result is nut coal is the best compromise between heat and ability to rake it down without getting stuck
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Re: Pea Coal Vs. Chestnut Coal Vs. Stove Coal

PostBy: JohnB On: Sun Dec 08, 2013 11:57 am

Thanks for the replys. Calling around it looks like Blaschak Stove is going to be hard to find if I just want to try a few bags. One local co-op has 50lb bags of stove coal but the woman I spoke with says the bags only say "Premium DEP Mined" with no company name. I'd prefer to try the Blaschak as that's what I'd be ordering by the pallet next summer if I switch from nut or decide to mix it.
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Re: Pea Coal Vs. Chestnut Coal Vs. Stove Coal

PostBy: Rob R. On: Sun Dec 08, 2013 3:17 pm

Go ahead a get the no name stove coal if you want to experiment. Coal characteristics can change from load to load and season to season, regardless of what the bag says.
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Re: Pea Coal Vs. Chestnut Coal Vs. Stove Coal

PostBy: JohnB On: Sun Dec 08, 2013 4:07 pm

That's the plan for now as I've struck out on Blaschak Stove around here. Rice, pea, nut, even Blacksmith coal but no one stocks their Stove. I'll be near the store with the 50lb bags of ?? Stove in a couple days so I'll grab a few bags to try out.
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Re: Pea Coal Vs. Chestnut Coal Vs. Stove Coal

PostBy: JohnB On: Thu Dec 12, 2013 12:43 pm

Picked up a bag of the no name stove coal yesterday & tried a 50/50 mix of nut/stove in the hopper last night. Went to bed at 72* & woke up to a refreshing 65.5*. Fire was WAY down, just burning under the hopper & the hopper was only down a couple inches from the night before. This stuff is BIG & evidently does not work well in the Hitzer hopper as it doesn't flow out at the bottom.

Here's a photo of the average sizing & that big one in the center isn't uncommon in the bag.

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That big one in the center is over 2" high.

Fred - How does this compare to the stove you got in your mix? Can anyone using Blaschak Stove compare the sizing? I'll use it up during the day when I can pull the coal out from under the hopper ring edge with my poker but it will be strictly Nut at night for now. Meanwhile I'll keep looking for a supplier with loose bags of the Blaschak Stove.
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Re: Pea Coal Vs. Chestnut Coal Vs. Stove Coal

PostBy: Dennis On: Thu Dec 12, 2013 1:38 pm

http://nepacrossroads.com/kb/Anthracite_Coal
that looks about right,yea, might be tough going thru the hopper. FF is using 50/50 nut/stove in his hopper
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Re: Pea Coal Vs. Chestnut Coal Vs. Stove Coal

PostBy: JohnB On: Thu Dec 12, 2013 4:57 pm

Most of the Stove pieces I've got run larger then what I see on those charts but my Blaschak Nut is all over the map size wise also. Interestingly after poking into the bottom of the hopper pile this morning to drag out some coal the stove has been running great on the 50/50 mix all day so it must be feeding out. Those big chunks definitely burn a long time! I'll give the 50/50 mix one more shot tonight & see how it goes.
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Re: Pea Coal Vs. Chestnut Coal Vs. Stove Coal

PostBy: JohnB On: Fri Dec 13, 2013 10:41 am

Well that experiment is over until I can find a bag of the Blaschak Stove. 64* in the house this morning & the hopper only dropped under 2" over night. Great for coal use, not so great for a warm house.

I see what you guys mean about different brands of coal burning differently. This no name "Deep Mined" Stove gives off a much stronger odor when it burns & the Blaschak dancing blue ladies are now dancing yellow/orange ladies. High sulfur content maybe?? Reading through some old threads I found posts stating that the Blaschak coal is strip mined & that the deep mined coal is considered better?? How so?
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Re: Pea Coal Vs. Chestnut Coal Vs. Stove Coal

PostBy: Richard S. On: Fri Dec 13, 2013 1:09 pm

JohnB wrote:Most of the Stove pieces I've got run larger then what I see on those charts...


The charts are approximate, newer screens... its smaller. Older screens... it's bigger. ;)
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