samhill wrote:Well mike, just to answer a few of your questions not that its any of your business but here goes. I didn`t pay anything for my last doctors visit, you see because I served this country I can go to the V.A. clinic. If it wasn`t for that I would have to pay 100% until I reached my $1,000 deductable then after I`ve paid that it would be $20 co-pay. Thats what we pay for my wife being she`s not a vet. I haven`t had a motorcycle since my late 20s, a old 20" tv, I have to dish because of where I live theres no cable service & we can`t get anything without putting up a tower to get an antenna above the tree line, because of where I live I do have a cell thats a bit spotty as far as service but its more for safety than anything. My previous wife passed away from uterin cancer which I believe would have been caught & prevented if the Ins. co. wouldn`t have denied her a hysterectomy saying that they deemed her too young even after her doc requested it & she had already been thru menopause. So you see mike not everyone that has a health ins. mega plan for free( I forgot to mention I pay very near $500/mo. for mine) & I feel lucky to have it & the fact that so far I can still afford it. As for your quick fix there is no instant gradification, everything takes time one of the country`s biggest problems IMO is that most people expect anything they want right now. Its been over 70 years of election promises not fulfilled & over 70 years of ins. lobbyists allowed to get more powerful & a bunch of Republicans publicly vowing to fight everything THIS Pres. wants & you want everything you want NOW. Maybe in your perfect world, good luck.
So if it isn't my business, why did you tell me?
Answer: To tug at my heartstrings to make me feel guilty and explain why I should pay for your medical expenses. In other words, you very much would like to make it my business!
If you think that isn't what this bill is about...think again. It's you (and others like you) taking my money for your problems because you see that I have my problems solved and you are envious. You have decided that you can use your mob influence (the democrat party) to tyrannize me indirectly (and others like me) by violating the spirit of the Constitution which is, among other things, to prevent the tyranny of the majority, the tyranny of the wealthy, and the tyranny of the government. What YOU want is to create YOUR perfect world.
This bill is charity at best and socialism at worst. Remember that always.
I never said health care was free (nor should it be). I said there are no up front costs. In other words, You won't be denied basic life sustaining treatment for lack of cash up front. If you felt that your previous wife was a victim of malpractice then see someone like Jon (Stockingfull) who will be your advocate in your claim. If the claim has merit, you will prevail.
Health care is not a right. Just because Cadillacs and caviar exists, doesn't mean that everyone has a right to them without paying for them. Same is true for health care. The aim of the left is to deny the wealthy premium care and tax them heavily in order to make health care affordable to the disadvantaged. That is class warfare. It is socialism: From each according to his ability, to each according to his need.
Republicans are fighting this bill because it doesn't represent a fair way of providing wider coverage, eliminating denial of coverage when most needed, and cost control, most of which are "problems of perception" created by a lack of desire to pay for services by a populace that regards such things erroneously as a "right" or as something that should be "free" since few have had to pay for it directly (my original point). Most of these problems would be self-regulating in a free economy or could be regulated in our current system without the need for socialistic takeover.
As I stated in an earlier post on this subject in another thread, the way to solve the "problem" is to eliminate third party payers entirely. All invoices and payments should be transacted through the patient. Then and only then, when the risk and costs are fully borne by the consumer, will the consumer exert their will. The rest is academic.
So tell me again, samhill, why do I have to pay for your health care expenses especially when you say you can afford it by virtue of your service and your earnings?