Coal Stove Blamed for Douglas Fire

Coal Stove Blamed for Douglas Fire

PostBy: Citizen0001 On: Tue Dec 22, 2009 12:36 am

Any else see this in the T&G today? Hope it wasn't a member from this board. Thankfully no one was hurt.

http://www.telegram.com/article/20091221/NEWS/912219982/1101/LOCAL
Citizen0001
 
Coal Size/Type: Rice
Stove/Furnace Make: Alaska
Stove/Furnace Model: Channing III

Re: Coal Stove Blamed for Douglas Fire

PostBy: SMITTY On: Tue Dec 22, 2009 1:16 am

Something doesn't add up there ....

First off, when the story was first reported, they said it was a woodstove. Secondly ... how does a coal stove burn your house down? Unless he left the ash door open .... :gee:
SMITTY
 
Stoker Coal Boiler: Patriot Coal - custom built by Jim Dorsey
Hand Fed Coal Stove: Harman Mark III (not currently in use)
Coal Size/Type: Rice / Blaschak anthracite
Other Heating: Oil fired Burnham boiler

Re: Coal Stove Blamed for Douglas Fire

PostBy: Richard S. On: Tue Dec 22, 2009 1:48 am

Comment left, chimney fire from coal is impossible. ;)
Richard S.
 
Stoker Coal Boiler: Van Wert VA1200
Coal Size/Type: Buckwheat/Anthracite


Re: Coal Stove Blamed for Douglas Fire

PostBy: SMITTY On: Tue Dec 22, 2009 1:58 am

Did you browse our liberal paper? :lol: :D

I added a comment also, just to back up what you said. I'm waiting for the anti-coal set to start posting. :roll: I subscribed ....
SMITTY
 
Stoker Coal Boiler: Patriot Coal - custom built by Jim Dorsey
Hand Fed Coal Stove: Harman Mark III (not currently in use)
Coal Size/Type: Rice / Blaschak anthracite
Other Heating: Oil fired Burnham boiler

Re: Coal Stove Blamed for Douglas Fire

PostBy: whistlenut On: Tue Dec 22, 2009 3:35 am

On again, we need more info! I'm calling the chief in the AM to see what the real story is. I'll post when I get credible evidence one way or the other! :idea:
whistlenut
 
Stoker Coal Boiler: AA130's,260's, AHS130&260's,EFM900,GJ&VanWert
Hand Fed Coal Boiler: Franks Boiler,Itasca415,NYer130,Van Wert
Hot Air Coal Stoker Furnace: Yellow Flame
Hot Air Coal Stoker Stove: Alaska-4,Keystoker-2,
Hand Fed Coal Stove: Alaska,Gibraltor,Keystone,Vc Vigilant 2
Hand Fed Coal Furnace: Van Wert, NYer's, Ford,Jensen.
Coal Size/Type: Rice,Buck,Pea,Nut&Stove
Other Heating: Oil HWBB

Re: Coal Stove Blamed for Douglas Fire

PostBy: Adamiscold On: Thu Dec 24, 2009 2:58 pm

Someone posted this; "I have read all the posts by the people who burn coal stoves. I never burned coal, so I did some checking. I found the following from the instruction manual of a Magnafire Coal Stove:

THE MOST IMPORTANT THING TO REMEMBER ABOUT CHIMNEYS IS THEIR NEED FOR MAINTENANCE AND CLEANING. IF A CHIMNEY IS NOT CLEANED ON A FREQUENT BASIS, IT WILL AFFECT DRAFT, AS WELL AS BE A CONTRIBUTING FACTOR TO A POTENTIAL CHIMNEY FIRE.

They also talk about a potential build-up of gasses if the draft is affected by wind or obstructions that can lead to pockets of gasses that can explode. If there is a crack in the chimney these gasses can collect in that pocket, and when the door is opened they can ignite and explode.

Those of you who burn the stoves may not believe this, but the guys who make them claim it can happen.

I have also heard that a film can build up on the lining of a chimney and care should be taken when cleaning the chimney that you do not create a spark, which can ignite the film in the flue. I would imagine that if there is a crack in the flue the same material that can gather in the flue itself can gather in an area around the crack, thus creating a fire potential.
"



Isn't the soot or ash in the chimney from a coal stove 100% non combustible? Isn't more acidic then it is flammable? If any type of coal was leaving a film in the chimney wouldn't it be Bit coal? From my understanding there isn't many of them around here but I sure would like to know what company is giving him his information?
Adamiscold
 
Stove/Furnace Make: Chubby Sr. Old School

Re: Coal Stove Blamed for Douglas Fire

PostBy: rockwood On: Thu Dec 24, 2009 4:10 pm

Adamiscold wrote:If any type of coal was leaving a film in the chimney wouldn't it be Bit coal?

Soot from soft coal doesn't cause flue fires.
rockwood
 
Hot Air Coal Stoker Furnace: Stokermatic coal furnace
Hand Fed Coal Stove: Rockwood Stoveworks Circulator
Baseburners & Antiques: Malleable/Monarch Range
Coal Size/Type: Soft coal: Lump and stoker (slack coal)

Re: Coal Stove Blamed for Douglas Fire

PostBy: Berlin On: Wed Feb 10, 2010 7:00 am

complete load of crap, and whoever wrote that instruction manual is a complete idiot.
Berlin
 
Hot Air Coal Stoker Furnace: Will-Burt Combustioneer 77B
Coal Size/Type: Ohio BITUMINOUS pea stoker coal

Re: Coal Stove Blamed for Douglas Fire

PostBy: CapeCoaler On: Wed Feb 10, 2010 5:22 pm

Read the manual yourself...
http://www.hearthnhome.com/downloads/installManuals/Mark_I_II_III.pdf
No mention of Chimney Fire danger in my quick read...
CapeCoaler
 
Stoker Coal Boiler: want AA130
Hand Fed Coal Stove: DS Machine BS#4, Harman MKII, Hitzer 503,...
Coal Size/Type: Pea/Nut/Stove