stockingfull wrote:Actually, how others have been treated for the same offenses is not only "precedent" but the cornerstone of our law.
In this case, however, the President has brought "change" in the form of a new and refreshing type of "patriotism," focused more on substance and less on symbols, the real meanings of which have been forgotten by so many in this country.
stockingfull wrote:When and where did you learn about the anthem?
Because I've been in some pretty big ballparks and, while everybody knows hats are to come off, I never saw hatless people with hands on hearts for the Anthem before the summer of 2008.
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stockingfull wrote:Brock, ALL gov't is "socialism" at one level or another.
Didn't you ever watch an old movie? Your hat goes over your heart for the national anthem.
Here's a photo that shows the ball players with hats over heart. Hard to see but they are all facing the flag for the national anthem.
The difference is in degrees. The left chooses to interpret the Constitution quite liberally while the right chooses to interpret it conservatively and literally in the context of the Framer's desires. The left is wrong and seeks to subvert the document through equivocation.
Madison saw it coming on the "general welfare" clause.
stockingfull wrote:Christ, Mike, I thought you'd found something useful, not a b/w shot of micro-ballplayers! Even with a magnifying glass, though, doesn't prove anything; those ballplayers are (a) in uniform and (b) wearing hats.
What I was and am referring to is the custom when people are hatless and not in any uniform. I've said that all along and nobody's demonstrated the custom yet.
stockingfull wrote:What I was and am referring to is the custom when people are hatless and not in any uniform. I've said that all along and nobody's demonstrated the custom yet.
stockingfull wrote:Tell us when it started. How old you were, and who taught you.
Because it's an obscure "custom" for hatless people in civilian clothes.
The US Code (Titles 4 and 36) specifies four circumstances for rendering the hand-over-heart salute:
1. When the US flag is raised or lowered
2. When the US flag is carried past in a review or parade
3. When reciting the pledge of allegiance
4. When the national anthem is played
The saluter should face the flag in all cases. If the national anthem is played when the flag is not displayed, the saluter should face the source of the music.
stockingfull wrote:Whether it's in the U.S. Code or not, it wasn't taught until you wingnutters decided to make it an issue for Obama.
Find me pics of Ike, or Dubya, or Ronnie Ray-guns covering up for the Anthem in a suit. And find them before they were Presidents.