Anybody Have BOTH Hitzer 30-95 & 50-93?

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Post by smokeyCityTeacher » Fri. Dec. 25, 2009 4:06 pm

Im wondering if the 50 is just the 30 on steroids or it is really different in some way in the design.

Its interesting that both of them will damp down to burn 1 pound of coal per hour according to Hitzer website.

 
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Post by oliver power » Fri. Dec. 25, 2009 7:16 pm

smokeyCityTeacher wrote:Im wondering if the 50 is just the 30 on steroids or it is really different in some way in the design.

Its interesting that both of them will damp down to burn 1 pound of coal per hour according to Hitzer website.
Smoky City Teacher, If you look to the right, you'll see I have both. 50-93 in basement, and 30-95 in shop. On the outside, they look simular, the 50-93 being a little bigger. On the inside, the 50-93 has two grates, and straight vertical sides in the fire box. The hopper is also a little bigger. The 30-95 has a single grate towards the front. The back side of the fire box angles towards the single front grate. And the hopper is a little smaller. You have the 30-95, (I described it for other readers). The different CFM fans don't make any difference, as they only need to run on low anyways. I will say this; The smaller dual squirell cage fan on the 50-93 runs much quieter(air noise) than the bigger single squirrell cage fan on the 30-95. HITZER might better put a small single squirrell cage fan on both models.Funny part is; Although the 50-93 throws a lot more heat, they each take a 5 gallon pail of coal at tending time. I'm guessing the 30-95 is less efficient, which is good for chimneys with poor draft.

 
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Post by grizzly2 » Sat. Dec. 26, 2009 7:54 am

Correct me if I am mistaken oliver power, but I believe the 50-93 has a welded in hopper. The three advantages of the removable 30-95 hopper are that it 1.can be removed, or better yet turned arround to act as a bafflel when burning wood 2. replaced if it was to warp badly, or burn off the bottom edges 3. can be removed for better access to the back of the stove from the inside for maintenance and repair. :)


 
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Post by oliver power » Sat. Dec. 26, 2009 7:50 pm

grizzly2 wrote:Correct me if I am mistaken oliver power, but I believe the 50-93 has a welded in hopper. The three advantages of the removable 30-95 hopper are that it 1.can be removed, or better yet turned arround to act as a bafflel when burning wood 2. replaced if it was to warp badly, or burn off the bottom edges 3. can be removed for better access to the back of the stove from the inside for maintenance and repair. :)
You are correct Grizz.

 
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Post by smokeyCityTeacher » Sun. Dec. 27, 2009 12:43 am

oliver power wrote:
grizzly2 wrote:Correct me if I am mistaken oliver power, but I believe the 50-93 has a welded in hopper. The three advantages of the removable 30-95 hopper are that it 1.can be removed, or better yet turned arround to act as a bafflel when burning wood 2. replaced if it was to warp badly, or burn off the bottom edges 3. can be removed for better access to the back of the stove from the inside for maintenance and repair. :)
You are correct Grizz.
Hitzer told me that the latest '09 version of 50-93 has a removable hopper. All in all it seems it is the same stove scaled up to almost 2 x the power. Speaking of baffles for wood burning. The Hitzer needs a flat firebrick add on that lays on the shelf in the back to force the flame and gasses forward so they have curl around and come back to the flu exit. This would keep heat in the box rather than up the flu and give secondary gases a time to burn a bit more before leaving. I'm going to find some long pieces and make my own. Ill let yunz know how it works.

 
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Post by fastcat » Sun. Dec. 27, 2009 1:12 am

I just bought a 50-93 today and it has a removable hopper.


 
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Post by smokeyCityTeacher » Sun. Dec. 27, 2009 1:33 am

fastcat wrote:I just bought a 50-93 today and it has a removable hopper.
Steel or firebrick?

I just got a replacement hopper for my 30-95 and it is all steel.
Ive seen a few pics of the insides of Hitzers and the hoppers I saw looked like they were firebrick.

 
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Post by oliver power » Sun. Dec. 27, 2009 8:17 am

fastcat wrote:I just bought a 50-93 today and it has a removable hopper.
fastcat, I haven't seen the new removable hopper on the 50-93 yet. Heard about it, but haven't seen it. Someone on this board said only the bottom of the hopper was removable, as if to say the top is still welded in. Is this the case? Would you post a picture for all of us to see? With the 30-95, the entire hopper lifts out the top of the stove. I was near my HITZER dealer while doing estimates last week. Thought about stopping to check out the new 50-93, but didn't.

 
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Post by Rex » Sun. Dec. 27, 2009 9:39 am

We have a year 1993 model 50-93. Our hopper is obviously welded in but I did remove the bottom ring once. Just remove the 4 bolts and it comes right out. 16 years and the unit is going strong.

I did order the newer hopper lid that locks. Our older model just closes shut. Maybe in the summer I'll have a welder come in and weld the newer lid in place.

We will be looking at the newer 50-93 models this week.

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