Run away temperatures..

Run away temperatures..

PostBy: Richg420 On: Mon Dec 28, 2009 2:23 am

Hello all, I have a LL Pocono using the coal trol digital.. This is my first season so i am not super familiar with all the sub menu adjustments and what not but i can say that i have had it running successfully for almost a month now holding the desired temperature to within a degree or two. I keep it set at 66 for both day and night setbacks and it has done this well. it had been a little warmer outside temperature wise today and i happened to notice on my round robin display that the inside temperature had risen to 69 at around 1 pm.. The display was still showing D 66 as 66 being my day time temp setting. So i thought nothing of it, maybe it was just because it was a warmer day outside. My wife had returned home around 8 pm to find the inside temp had risen to a blazing hot 81 degrees all the while still showing N 66 as my nighttime setback .. I had instructed her over the phone to turn the unit off using the red switch and to wait until i got home. I then called her back and asked her to unplug the stove for a few min and then plug it back it and turn it on .. she did that.. and the temps started going down. Neither i nor anyone else had touched the thermostat in over 2 weeks. This just happened on its own.. Like i said it was fine for the month its been going but all of a sudden she came home to a sauna.. i am losing my faith in this unit as i will be out of town most of the day tomorrow and dont even know if i should risk leaving it burn with no one around to keep an eye on it.. I am thinking i have a problem with this unit and thankfully it is still well under warranty.. any input anyone??
Richg420
 
Stove/Furnace Make: Leisure Line
Stove/Furnace Model: Pocono

Re: Run away temperatures..

PostBy: WNY On: Mon Dec 28, 2009 8:23 am

Contact CoalTrol first. Call Neil or Paul.

Also, have you checked your Draft / Baro Damper and have it calibrated correctly with a draft gauge?

You should not have to mess with the Menu setting too much (or at all). Other than the MAX and MIN to get your stove dialed in for optimum burning.
(Whats;s your MIN/MAX setting at currently).

How much of temperature setbacks are you using? Most of us don't use them, because coal take so long to respond and if your setbacks are more than a couple degrees, you will have overshoot. ie) If you have them set at 65 and then raise them to 70 or 72, that will really get the stove cranking and then it will take a long time (1-2 hours) to settle down and normally overshoot the setpoints.

The stove will only get so hot, even its maxed out, there's nothing to worry about, it will just be really hot. I have run my stove at max when it's below 10 degrees outside and it runs just fine.

I have had my CoalTrol for 3 years and Zero problems. I leave it at 68 most of the time and maybe raise it 1-2 degrees if I need too, but maintains perfectly.
WNY
 
Hot Air Coal Stoker Stove: Keystoker 90K, Leisure Line Hyfire I
Coal Size/Type: Rice
Stove/Furnace Make: Keystoker, LL & CoalTrol
Stove/Furnace Model: 90K, Hyfire I, VF3000 Soon

Re: Run away temperatures..

PostBy: pvolcko On: Mon Dec 28, 2009 9:19 pm

Sorry you've run into a problem. Please do call us so we can find out more and work with you to finding a solution. The number is 315-299-3589. The Coal-trol comes with a 3 year limited warranty so you shouldn't worry about that.
pvolcko
 

Re: Run away temperatures..

PostBy: Richg420 On: Tue Dec 29, 2009 3:17 am

Thanks for the help.. In response to some of WNY's questions... No i have not yet had anything properly/professionally draft gauged.. Unless an upswing in outdoor temperatures.. maybe 15 degrees.. has that dramatic of an effect.. which i doubt.. as inexperienced as i am.. The fact is that nothing was touched or adjusted for over 2 weeks other that filling and dumping ash.. and she ran fine... But to include some details i use 66 degrees for both day and night settings.. I had my max default lowered to 35 for weeks now.. upon noticing the 69 degrees at 1 pm i lowered the max feed to 30 and went to work.. and she kept on going... as a side note im pretty impressed with her output after this incident :) as i havent yet really let her rip.. but as an update it has been a day and she is back holding steady at 66.. so if i may address to pvolcko.. should i sit and wait and see how she runs.. perhaps the turning off and unplugging briefly (the settings remained intact) may have had a sort of reboot effect?? I am extremely grateful for the help especially from those representing both the coal trol company and leisure line and their active participation in these forums. It was a deciding factor in my purchase and again.. I am thankful for the quick response! Im sure we will get this worked out.. so what to do?? sit and wait?? or be without my stove for a week or 2 :( ???
Richg420
 
Stove/Furnace Make: Leisure Line
Stove/Furnace Model: Pocono

Re: Run away temperatures..

PostBy: Matthaus On: Tue Dec 29, 2009 5:45 am

Richg420 wrote:snip..so if i may address to pvolcko.. should i sit and wait and see how she runs.. snip..


Give the folks at Automation Correct a call, if no resolution is found PM me and we will discuss further until your situation is solved, these issues are best handled on the phone so that detailed information can be exchanged rapidly and effectively. I'm sure there is a simple explanation for your issue, just a matter of troubleshooting and corrective action. Also many people overlook contacting their dealer who sold the stove, those folks have seen a few issues in their time and can often solve the issue simply and quickly. Whatever you do don't delay pursuing a solution through one on one support, you deserve for your stove to operate as advertised. :)
Matthaus
 
Stoker Coal Boiler: Leisure Line WL110 Dual Fuel, natural gas
Hot Air Coal Stoker Stove: Leisure Line Lil' Heater (rental house)
Coal Size/Type: Rice and Buckwheat Anthracite

Re: Run away temperatures..

PostBy: Flyer5 On: Sat Jan 16, 2010 10:15 pm

Richg420 wrote:Thanks for the help.. In response to some of WNY's questions... No i have not yet had anything properly/professionally draft gauged.. Unless an upswing in outdoor temperatures.. maybe 15 degrees.. has that dramatic of an effect.. which i doubt.. as inexperienced as i am.. The fact is that nothing was touched or adjusted for over 2 weeks other that filling and dumping ash.. and she ran fine... But to include some details i use 66 degrees for both day and night settings.. I had my max default lowered to 35 for weeks now.. upon noticing the 69 degrees at 1 pm i lowered the max feed to 30 and went to work.. and she kept on going... as a side note im pretty impressed with her output after this incident :) as i havent yet really let her rip.. but as an update it has been a day and she is back holding steady at 66.. so if i may address to pvolcko.. should i sit and wait and see how she runs.. perhaps the turning off and unplugging briefly (the settings remained intact) may have had a sort of reboot effect?? I am extremely grateful for the help especially from those representing both the coal trol company and leisure line and their active participation in these forums. It was a deciding factor in my purchase and again.. I am thankful for the quick response! Im sure we will get this worked out.. so what to do?? sit and wait?? or be without my stove for a week or 2 :( ???


Just curious when you changed your max setpoint to 30 could you have left it on that menu ? Thanks ,Dave
Flyer5
 
Stoker Coal Boiler: Leisure Line WL110
Hot Air Coal Stoker Stove: Leisure Line Pioneer

Re: Run away temperatures..

PostBy: 4tees On: Sat Jan 16, 2010 10:28 pm

Could the problem be a min setting....I would think the coaltrol would put the stove on idle if setpoint has been reached. Is it possible the idle settings are generating too much heat? Maybe something has been running in Manual mode outside of coatrol automatic control?

Or stove is too big for space being heated and idle settings generate too much heat for space.
4tees
 
Stove/Furnace Make: Leisure Line
Stove/Furnace Model: Hyfire II with hot air jacket

Re: Run away temperatures..

PostBy: Richg420 On: Thu Nov 17, 2011 1:01 am

I feel the need to admit that it was an isolated incident.. almost forgot I posted this and it has been a while since Ive even been on here.. I love my Coal Trol.. Amazing how steady it golds a temperature..
Richg420
 
Stove/Furnace Make: Leisure Line
Stove/Furnace Model: Pocono