samhill wrote:Mike! You always seem to totally amaze me how you know not only what the true meaning of what I have said in the past(your opoinion anyway) but what most other people really mean to say. There are a lot of things that people educated in the field have been paid good money to do studies on & all along they could have just come to you. The clean remark could have been refering to his not having too bad of a past instead of being filthy. Its a known conclusion that light skinned AA are deemed more trustworthy, I don`t agree with everything said but I don`t try to determine what someone "really" meant. I do think that this whole thing is going to end up being good for the country as a better understanding of race & how its percieved from all sides might just come out rather than being a taboo subject. And I`m not just picking on you its just that you were the last one to post on the subject. As to the negro remark I know a lot of people that talk just a little differently depending on the people they are with. In my lifetime I have known negros, coloreds, people of color, blacks & African Americans & they were all the same people, as a race they have a hard time deciding what they want to be called.
Sam, I had no comment on Biden's "clean" remark in this thread.
As for the "known conclusion that light-skinned African Americans are deemed more trustworthy"
, that is certainly a bigoted
and unacceptable remark from anyone
. It's like saying fat people are lazy or ugly people are cranky. It's pointless and ignorant.
That is probably the best thing to say about Reid's remarks: He was pointless and ignorant
. But I doubt he is that mindless. At this juncture, with the book not yet released and the comments not yet in context, I feel an analysis of his verbatim remark is fair game in this informal conversation.
While Reid may have been complimenting Obama and encouraging him to run for president, he might also have been duping him to get him out of the Senate. Either way, he knows now his comments were wrong:
I deeply regret using such a poor choice of words. I sincerely apologize for offending any and all Americans, especially African-Americans for my improper comments," Reid said in a statement released after the excerpts were first reported on the Web site of The Atlantic.
"I was a proud and enthusiastic supporter of Barack Obama during the campaign and have worked as hard as I can to advance President Obama's legislative agenda."
--from a Yahoo AP story.
This link is broken, either the page no longer exists or there is some other issue like a typo.
It's not a risk to say that Reid felt Obama's chameleon-like ability was politically advantageous albeit manipulative and condescending to his target audience. Hillary did the same thing in rural areas. Her country twang became more pronounced.
The point of this thread is to say that Republicans aren't given the same latitude in their remarks as the Democrats. The press quickly brands their faux pas as ignorant, racist, insensitive, etc. It's a double standard and certainly unfair. Race is an obsession of both the press and the Democrats but they fail to police themselves as vigorously as they would Republicans. The horror of Reid's comment is that "it wasn't meant for publication". That means it's OK to have the internalized bigotry so long as you don't say it publicly ?!?
As for the comment, "as a race they have a hard time deciding what they want to be called"... why don't we stop playing this race-baiting game? Let's stop keeping score on race. Let's just call citizens "Americans".