titleist1 wrote:hmmm.....i said that last week at a local meeting.....although I think the last part was misquoted slightly......surprised to see it on the web so soon....
stockingfull wrote:While we're talking about the code language of "states' rights," here's another vintage quotation from an ex-Democrat. Can you guess who it is?I believe in state's rights; I believe in people doing as much as they can for themselves at the community level and at the private level. And I believe that we've distorted the balance of our government today by giving powers that were never intended in the constitution to that federal establishment. And if I do get the job I'm looking for, I'm going to devote myself to trying to reorder those priorities and to restore to the states and local communities those functions which properly belong there.
The powers not delegated to the United States by the Constitution, nor prohibited by it to the States, are reserved to the States respectively, or to the people.
stockingfull wrote:So where'd the racists go, Mikey?
stockingfull wrote:I'm not saying every Republican is a racist. I am saying every racist is a Republican.
You had better view the Glenn Beck videos.
By party and region
Note: "Southern", as used in this section, refers to members of Congress from the eleven states that made up the Confederate States of America in the American Civil War. "Northern" refers to members from the other 39 states, regardless of the geographic location of those states.
The original House version:
* Southern Democrats: 7-87 (7%-93%)
* Southern Republicans: 0-10 (0%-100%)
* Northern Democrats: 145-9 (94%-6%)
* Northern Republicans: 138-24 (85%-15%)
The Senate version:
* Southern Democrats: 1-20 (5%-95%) (only Senator Ralph Yarborough of Texas voted in favor)
* Southern Republicans: 0-1 (0%-100%) (this was Senator John Tower of Texas)
* Northern Democrats: 45-1 (98%-2%) (only Senator Robert Byrd of West Virginia opposed the measure)
* Northern Republicans: 27-5 (84%-16%) (Senators Barry Goldwater of Arizona, Bourke Hickenlooper of Iowa, Edwin L. Mechem of New Mexico, Milward L. Simpson of Wyoming, and Norris H. Cotton of New Hampshire opposed the measure)
stockingfull wrote:mikeandgerry wrote:...
You had better view the Glenn Beck videos.
Mike, I'll watch Beck when you watch Schultz, Olbermann and Maddow.
That's what I call "fair and balanced."
KLook wrote: He (and Devil) actually have increased my awareness of political history as I started reading more about those subjects. It meerly strengthened my views about the things I already believed in.
stockingfull wrote:By the way, the quote was by none other than Ronnie Ray-guns, who wasn't above throwing out a couple "loaded phrases" during his 1980 campaign while visiting the Neshoba County Fair in good ol' Mississippi. You can read the entire transcript here:
I've been stewing about this all night...
His coal related posts are VERY rare and without any merit. His political posts are designed to do one thing and that is to incite and stor trouble. Remember his wonderful Sick cheney poll of a week ago where you had three derogatory choices to identify Cheney?
And you know he's a master.
mikeandgerry wrote:I thought it was unfortunate that Devil was banned too. Don't boycott Stockingfull. He will help you learn. You cannot defeat an enemy you don't know. You cannot win an argument you don't understand. You will learn more from your detractors than your supporters. As you say, strengthen your views through refinement.
I read it, some parts twice. Please point out where he betrayed his own racism or was encouraging or accepting of racism in those he was talking to. I didn't see it.
If you're hanging your claim of racism in this case on the reference to "state's rights" then I might suggest that he quite explicitly set out what he considered the proper role of the state's right argument in his discussion before and after he made that direct reference. In no place did he espouse a racist view, encourage our countenance racism on the part of others, or make anything approaching a racially tinged statement. If you choose to project a latent racial motive upon his reference to this foundational principle of our country (a principle still striven for by many today fully absent racist motive or intent), so be it, but I suggest it betrays your own ill will toward Reagan and your own stereotypical view of "The South" rather than any racism or playing to racial politics on the part of Reagan himself.
At least in the case of this speech. If you can point out another that doesn't require a true believer racial grievance decoder ring in order to grok it I'll read it too.