Finally! Got my Glenwood Base Heater installed!

Re: Finally! Got my Glenwood Base Heater installed!

PostBy: 70marlin On: Mon Jan 18, 2010 4:01 pm

That’s once beautiful stove! Great job!
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Re: Finally! Got my Glenwood Base Heater installed!

PostBy: dlj On: Mon Jan 18, 2010 9:33 pm

Well, I have it up and running. Man that is one long time since I last had a fire going in this stove. The last time I used it for heating was around 1979...

The coal guy didn't want to sel me stove coal, said I should buy nut. I bought both, Four 50 pound sags of nut and four of stove coal. I threw in a wad of newspaper, some nice oak kindling, a few chunks of ash and made nice little wood fire. Then I threw some of the stove coal on and away she went. I started about 6:00pm and it's now about 8:30. the stove is still reaching equilibrium as far as burning and stable temps. I have to get the chimney damper setting figured out. But it's running in base burner mode and the house is heating up...

I am loving it! Stove caol looks like it going to be a winner, but I have 3/4's of a bag of pea and the 4 bags of nut. I'll play with them all over the next week. But with the way it's running right now, stove is looking real good...

dj
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Hand Fed Coal Stove: Vermont Castings Resolute
Baseburners & Antiques: Glenwood Baseheater #6
Coal Size/Type: Stove coal
Other Heating: Oil Furnace, electric space heaters

Re: Finally! Got my Glenwood Base Heater installed!

PostBy: wsherrick On: Mon Jan 18, 2010 9:50 pm

Hooray!!! See I told you. Where do you have the ash pit dampers set. You can also try to see how far back you can close your pipe damper. If you have filled it up to the top, try setting the ash pit dampers to where they are just barely open and see what happens.
Oh by the way, my thermometer is set on the top of the stove barrel right under the nickel ring.
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Hand Fed Coal Stove: Glenwood Base Heater, Crawford Base Heater
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Re: Finally! Got my Glenwood Base Heater installed!

PostBy: dlj On: Mon Jan 18, 2010 10:14 pm

wsherrick wrote:Hooray!!! See I told you. Where do you have the ash pit dampers set. You can also try to see how far back you can close your pipe damper. If you have filled it up to the top, try setting the ash pit dampers to where they are just barely open and see what happens.
Oh by the way, my thermometer is set on the top of the stove barrel right under the nickel ring.


OK, so I figure a picture is worth a thousand words... Moving the thermometer to where you have it, the temp dropped almost 50 degrees, on the back plate it was 500F and up under the ring, it was closer to 450, a little above... Take a look at my bottom door vents and see what you think. I may be able to close my damper down some more, I need to get a thermometer for the pipe...

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Hand Fed Coal Stove: Vermont Castings Resolute
Baseburners & Antiques: Glenwood Baseheater #6
Coal Size/Type: Stove coal
Other Heating: Oil Furnace, electric space heaters

Re: Finally! Got my Glenwood Base Heater installed!

PostBy: wsherrick On: Mon Jan 18, 2010 11:30 pm

You can cut those ash pit dampers way back from where you have them. Close them to where they are barely open and see what happens. You can also try to close the pipe damper all the way-you shouldn't have any trouble with smoke getting in the house. Of course I don't know how your chimney draws, but; the stove will run well with just a little bit of air coming in the bottom. Keep me posted. Since you don't have a thermometer on your pipe yet-test by CAREFULLY touching the pipe about a foot away from the damper, you should be able to touch it for a few seconds before your hand gets too hot.
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Hand Fed Coal Stove: Glenwood Base Heater, Crawford Base Heater
Baseburners & Antiques: Crawford Base Heater, Glenwood, Stanley Argand
Coal Size/Type: Chestnut, Stove Size

Re: Finally! Got my Glenwood Base Heater installed!

PostBy: dlj On: Tue Jan 19, 2010 12:46 am

wsherrick wrote:You can cut those ash pit dampers way back from where you have them. Close them to where they are barely open and see what happens. You can also try to close the pipe damper all the way-you shouldn't have any trouble with smoke getting in the house. Of course I don't know how your chimney draws, but; the stove will run well with just a little bit of air coming in the bottom. Keep me posted. Since you don't have a thermometer on your pipe yet-test by CAREFULLY touching the pipe about a foot away from the damper, you should be able to touch it for a few seconds before your hand gets too hot.


Ok, I cut the bottom vents down to a crack each and closed the damper more. The damper I have is pretty solid cast iron. It's not the kind with a hole in the middle like the Griswalds I've had before. It only has the small openings where the rod passes through. I do have really good draft. When I switched out the Vermont for the Glenwood, I put a plastic over the chimney opening and it almost sucked it up the chimney -and that's without a fire...

My stove pipe was running pretty hot. I'll watch as I work on closing the damper down more...

Thanks for the input.

dj
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Hand Fed Coal Stove: Vermont Castings Resolute
Baseburners & Antiques: Glenwood Baseheater #6
Coal Size/Type: Stove coal
Other Heating: Oil Furnace, electric space heaters

Re: Finally! Got my Glenwood Base Heater installed!

PostBy: wsherrick On: Tue Jan 19, 2010 1:27 am

You can also experiment with the secondary damper in the loading door. I open mine for a few minutes after loading to get the blue flames going good. Sounds like you are off to a good start.
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Hand Fed Coal Stove: Glenwood Base Heater, Crawford Base Heater
Baseburners & Antiques: Crawford Base Heater, Glenwood, Stanley Argand
Coal Size/Type: Chestnut, Stove Size

Re: Finally! Got my Glenwood Base Heater installed!

PostBy: Rampant Lion On: Tue Jan 19, 2010 4:06 pm

Now that is a stove! I'm envious of your new, beautiful stove. Hope you enjoy burning it.
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Re: Finally! Got my Glenwood Base Heater installed!

PostBy: dlj On: Tue Jan 19, 2010 11:30 pm

Rampant Lion wrote:Now that is a stove! I'm envious of your new, beautiful stove. Hope you enjoy burning it.


Thanks a bunch. I am pretty much amazed at how well this old timer works. I just got home after leaving this morning around 6am. I got home about 10:00 pm and my house is warm and cozy. It's been just sitting there all day and the fire is still going strong. I had to play with it, couldn't resist even though my wife said to wait until tomorrow morning... Anyway, I shook it down, got all the ash out and re-filled it. The house has been at 69F all day. Well, that's in the hallway away from the stove, the living room is just delightfully toasty. I'll have to put a thermometer in there. I'd guess it's mid to high 70's.

I am indeed enjoying burning it...

dj

p.s.
I wanted to put in a link to William's Glenwood Base heater discussion. He has a lot of really useful information in there..

Got The Glenwood Base Burner Installed & Tested Last Night
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Hand Fed Coal Stove: Vermont Castings Resolute
Baseburners & Antiques: Glenwood Baseheater #6
Coal Size/Type: Stove coal
Other Heating: Oil Furnace, electric space heaters

Re: Finally! Got my Glenwood Base Heater installed!

PostBy: wsherrick On: Wed Jan 20, 2010 3:48 am

I know you are pleased. You are now on coal stove easy street. Our forebearers around 1900 really knew how to build and design stoves.
We have only to respect and appreciate what they accomplished for us and also be amazed at how much they really knew about this stuff.
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Hand Fed Coal Stove: Glenwood Base Heater, Crawford Base Heater
Baseburners & Antiques: Crawford Base Heater, Glenwood, Stanley Argand
Coal Size/Type: Chestnut, Stove Size

Re: Finally! Got my Glenwood Base Heater installed!

PostBy: wsherrick On: Thu Jan 21, 2010 4:06 am

Keep us updated on how you are doing.
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Hand Fed Coal Stove: Glenwood Base Heater, Crawford Base Heater
Baseburners & Antiques: Crawford Base Heater, Glenwood, Stanley Argand
Coal Size/Type: Chestnut, Stove Size

Re: Finally! Got my Glenwood Base Heater installed!

PostBy: dlj On: Thu Jan 21, 2010 6:37 pm

wsherrick wrote:Keep us updated on how you are doing.


Well, the stove is running great. I'm now heating my entire house just with this stove. My furnace does not kick on at all and the house is extremely comfortable. I live in a ranch so everything is on one floor. The stove is in the living room which is way on one end of the house. Somehow, and I sure can't figure out how, this stove causes the air to circulate from the bedrooms at the opposite end of the house such that they are also guite comfortable. They are cooler than the living room where the stove is, but still a lot warmer than I would have thought they could ever have been. I'm not running any fans or anything. It's just the natural convection that this stove somehow really promotes. I have a room off the kitchen that we use for our dining room and that room stays cooler than we like. So we are going to punch some holes in the wall to get air circulation into that room also.

My wife is so happy, well let's just say, life is real good....

The stove definately runs better using stove coal, but the nuts works just fine also. It's just faster to respond to adjustments either hotter or cooler using the stove coal. I'm going to burn up the pea I've got also, but haven't thrown that in yet. I'm sure any size will work as long as it doesn't fall through the grates...

Two things I just can't explain and are real pleasant surprises: the stove somehow heats the far back bedrooms and at the same time, the living room is a really pleasant comfortable temperature. I was going to run my furnace fan to spread the heat around the house, but I don't need to....

Happy and warm here!

dj
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Hand Fed Coal Stove: Vermont Castings Resolute
Baseburners & Antiques: Glenwood Baseheater #6
Coal Size/Type: Stove coal
Other Heating: Oil Furnace, electric space heaters

Re: Finally! Got my Glenwood Base Heater installed!

PostBy: wsherrick On: Sat Jan 23, 2010 6:20 am

Excellent report. Remember that a baseburner is heating not only the top of the stove, but the sides and bottom also, this might explain why it is producing the new found heat convection you've noticed.
You will be able to really test your stove late next week as a nice, fresh batch of Arctic Air is forcasted to come at us. Not to worry you'll not even notice it until you go outside. You will also notice that even when you start really producing the heat out of it, you will be burning maybe only 15 or 20 more pounds of coal per day.
Hopefully, some more people will get smart and get a Glenwood and we can start a club. :roll:

Oh, by the way, the pretty nickel skirt isn't just there for decoration. It's purpose is to break up the flow of air as it travels upward along the sides of the stove as it is heated. This goes a long way to even out the distribution of heat around the room. Without the collar and the skirt the heated air would just rise up to the ceiling.
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Hand Fed Coal Stove: Glenwood Base Heater, Crawford Base Heater
Baseburners & Antiques: Crawford Base Heater, Glenwood, Stanley Argand
Coal Size/Type: Chestnut, Stove Size

Re: Finally! Got my Glenwood Base Heater installed!

PostBy: dlj On: Sat Jan 30, 2010 2:24 pm

Well, got a lession in how this stove works in this cold weather. I got up this morning and was not pleased. It was not particularly warm in my house. I won't go through the explicatives used... But, it is now quite warm and toasty after figuring out some aspects of this stove.

This stove has a lot of cast iron to heat up. For a number of days, I've only been using part of a hod a day for the coal usage. The stove has been great, everything warm until this morning. I believe I've been coasting on all the heat stored in the cast iron and over the night last night, it finally ran out. I've put two hods in the stove so far today and running it in base burner mode with my damper at about 45 degrees and just pumping the heat back into all the cast iron and now it is back to kicking out a ton of heat and heating my whole house. Hallway thermometer is back up to 72 degrees- that's outside where the stove is. Living room is back to luxurious in temp - I've been thinking to buy a thermometer for that room but the body says - nice... I will get one, actually a few to place in different rooms to see how they all differ. I cut a whole in the wall behind the stove into my dining room, the coldest room in the house at the moment. I think I'm going to go cut a second one near the top of the wall.

This stove heats up slowly and cools down slowly. I've got to keep that in mind when wanting to change temps in the house or the outside temp is changing a lot...

So, it is 14 degrees right now outside, and 72 inside (not the warmest room in the house...)

dj
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Hand Fed Coal Stove: Vermont Castings Resolute
Baseburners & Antiques: Glenwood Baseheater #6
Coal Size/Type: Stove coal
Other Heating: Oil Furnace, electric space heaters

Re: Finally! Got my Glenwood Base Heater installed!

PostBy: wsherrick On: Sat Feb 06, 2010 7:40 am

How are you doing with your burn times and shaking schedule etc. Also what temps are you running it at during the cold weather? Mine has been very consistant. I feed it once a day and keep it around 450-500 degrees on the stove barrel and around 120-140 on the stove pipe. I haven't experienced the drop off in temps like you described above though.
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Hand Fed Coal Stove: Glenwood Base Heater, Crawford Base Heater
Baseburners & Antiques: Crawford Base Heater, Glenwood, Stanley Argand
Coal Size/Type: Chestnut, Stove Size

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