Finally! Got my Glenwood Base Heater installed!

Re: Finally! Got my Glenwood Base Heater installed!

PostBy: dlj On: Sat Feb 06, 2010 3:01 pm

wsherrick wrote:How are you doing with your burn times and shaking schedule etc. Also what temps are you running it at during the cold weather? Mine has been very consistant. I feed it once a day and keep it around 450-500 degrees on the stove barrel and around 120-140 on the stove pipe. I haven't experienced the drop off in temps like you described above though.


I have to pick up a second thermometer for the stove pipe. I'd like to know how I'm running on that. If I run the stove between 450 and 500 it doesn't move enough air to keep my whole house nice and toasty so I run 550 to 650 when I'm home.

I also have to feed twice a day to keep the stove pretty consistant in temp. So when I leave in the morning I make sure it's full and running well and then again when I get home at night. On weekends I like to play with it so I'll fuss with it more often, but that's purely because I like to.... I running pretty close to 50 pounds of coal a day, but I think I've got really crappy coal. It has a lot of sulphur, when I fill it you can smell it and the flames have a lot of green not the nice pure blue people describe as good anthracite. I also find that I use my front door damper a lot more than you do to have the fire run nicely so I'm wondering if I have a semianthracite coal. I'm talking ASTM D388 coal classification system... I'm rather irritated with my coal supply so for next year, I'm doing a lot more research into coal before buying. I'm going to try to get a load directly from a breaker in PA for my whole winters supply but I'm still researching all the details.

I'm still in the learning phase of how best to run this stove, but I'm well over the hump. The stove is heating my entire house significantly better than the oil furnace can. It's pretty amazing how well this stove heats.

I busted two holes in a back wall behind the stove that allows air flow into my back dining room and the convection currents set up have really made the entire house purr. It's also become apparent that the heat drop is partially due to how the whole house is being heated so if part of the back of the house begins to drop in temp, it pushes that drop. Then when I'm reheating, I'm pushing the entire house back up to my preferred temp. The house is being kept between about 65 and 72, depending upon if we are home or not. But letting it drop lower takes too long to push back up, so even when I'm not home, I'm still keeping the 65 as bottom temp.

dj
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Re: Finally! Got my Glenwood Base Heater installed!

PostBy: wsherrick On: Sun Feb 07, 2010 12:48 am

That extra hundred degree step up in stove temp. makes a lot of difference, especially if you consider all of the surface area that these stoves have to kick out heat. I think I can run mine a little cooler because of the way my house is set up. It is designed much like houses were back in the 19th century. It has a central stairwell from the bottom to the top with the rooms open to the stairs on each level, thus;it is very easy for the heat to come up the stairs all the way to the bedrooms on top. This Summer I am going to put in some floor registers to help the air circulate better. It should also help in the warm weather also to help keep the house cool with minimal need for air conditioning.

By the way, did you find the web site for the Auburn Stove Foundry in New Glouchester, Maine? I believe they have or can fabricate anything we need for our stoves.
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Re: Finally! Got my Glenwood Base Heater installed!

PostBy: dlj On: Sun Feb 07, 2010 10:35 am

wsherrick wrote:That extra hundred degree step up in stove temp. makes a lot of difference, especially if you consider all of the surface area that these stoves have to kick out heat. I think I can run mine a little cooler because of the way my house is set up. It is designed much like houses were back in the 19th century. It has a central stairwell from the bottom to the top with the rooms open to the stairs on each level, thus;it is very easy for the heat to come up the stairs all the way to the bedrooms on top. This Summer I am going to put in some floor registers to help the air circulate better. It should also help in the warm weather also to help keep the house cool with minimal need for air conditioning.

By the way, did you find the web site for the Auburn Stove Foundry in New Glouchester, Maine? I believe they have or can fabricate anything we need for our stoves.


Yes indeed, an extra hundred degrees makes a huge difference. At that temperature, let's see, I left the house at 6 am and got back at 10 pm, so that's 16 hours and the fire was on it's last legs, still going, but I had to nurse it back to life. If I'd been running down 100 degrees I would have probably still had 1/3 to 1/2 of the load still going strong. Earlier, when the outside temps were warmer, I'd done that same time period and it almost felt like I didn't have to feed the stove when I got home. But then it was running down close to 350 and the consumption was really low at those temps...

I'm thinking about a major redesign of the layout of my house. My wife and I like an open floor plan and so we are thinking about how to change the layout of the house. It won't happen for at least a year, more likely longer who knows, but in preparation of doing it, I'm going to measure and layout this whole house. Maybe I should post the layout here and ask for opinions on how the heat flow might be affected. I still can't figure out how the heck this stove is heating my whole house..

I did check out auburn foundry, thanks for the link. Sounds like they can make about anything I'd need. They don't list our stove on their web site, only the kitchen stove models, but they can make castings as one off's.

dj
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Re: Finally! Got my Glenwood Base Heater installed!

PostBy: dlj On: Thu Mar 11, 2010 10:22 pm

Here's a bit of an update on how my Glenwood has been working.

During the coldest temperatures here, I was burning probably close to 75 pounds of coal a day, heating my entire house and keeping it between 68 and 76 degrees in most of the house (depending if I was home or not). There are some cold spots in the house and the living room where the stove lives was real toasty. But the house was very comfortable. Much more so than using the oil furnace for heat...

Now that the temperatures are warming up, here we're running in the 40's to 50's in the day. Right now it's 45 degrees. I'm still buring coal. I'm now burning a little less than 25 pounds of coal a day and keeping the house at about 68 degrees. Nice and comfortable.

I'm pleasantly surprised at how nicely the stove backs down and idles. The living room is not hot, you can just tell the stove is there running. But you have to pay attention.

My wife tells me she has never been more comfortable in this house in the winter...

I'm not sure at this point when I may let the fire just burn out... I guess when either I run out of coal or the weather makes it so I don't need any heat...

dj
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Re: Finally! Got my Glenwood Base Heater installed!

PostBy: wsherrick On: Fri Mar 12, 2010 4:32 pm

I have been running my Glenwood on Idle for the past several days. I have been using similiar amounts of coal as you have been using. I have been going through less than a scuttle full per each 24 hour period. Twice a day I will give it a little shake and put on about 10 or 12 pounds of coal. The Glenwood just keeps rolling at around 300 degrees without variation hour after hour day after day. I don't have to fiddle with the draft settings at all. I open up the pipe damper and set it to direct draft when shaking and loading and thats it. The house stays at a pleasant, even temperature no matter how cold it is outside, the stove has been so easy to adjust to the weather conditions. My loading and maintenance schedule has remained exactly the same throughout the entire heating season. The only changes to the schedule has been how much coal to add and how much draft to give the fire. There are NO problems with ash buildup or overfiring or unexpected extremes of heat output. No problems at all to speak of. I am SO GLAD I bought one of these.
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Re: Finally! Got my Glenwood Base Heater installed!

PostBy: colt On: Thu Mar 18, 2010 8:11 pm

Hello I'm colt from Michigan and that is 1 nice base heater.I recently purchased a Quaker # 8 Base heater and I can wait to get it home and working.
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Re: Finally! Got my Glenwood Base Heater installed!

PostBy: dlj On: Thu Mar 18, 2010 11:51 pm

colt wrote:Hello I'm colt from Michigan and that is 1 nice base heater.I recently purchased a Quaker # 8 Base heater and I can wait to get it home and working.


Colt, More photos!!!!! Gotta have more photos! I've seen a number of base heaters but haven't seen a Quaker. That little side photo next to your name just doesn't make it!

I'm just dleighted with mine. I'm actually still running it as the nights are still pretty chilly. It's idleing down very nicely. I'm still learning the slow burn part, but full bore I've got down very well...

I almost let it go out a day or two ago. But then the temp dropped back down and I actually had to stoke back to hot for a night. But the season is almost done...

Where are you going to put yours? How are the grates in it? Condition? Give us more details...

dj
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Re: Finally! Got my Glenwood Base Heater installed!

PostBy: wsherrick On: Fri Mar 19, 2010 4:08 am

colt wrote:Hello I'm colt from Michigan and that is 1 nice base heater.I recently purchased a Quaker # 8 Base heater and I can wait to get it home and working.


Hi Colt. Let's see some detail photos of your baseburner. I would love to see some more of it and tell us where you are going to install it. If it is good and tight and everything is in proper order; you will be SUPER happy with its performance and efficiency. I couldn't be more pleased with my Glenwood No 6.
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Re: Finally! Got my Glenwood Base Heater installed!

PostBy: wsherrick On: Sat Mar 20, 2010 5:40 am

An exerpt from the "Antique Stove Hospital," web page which describes how good Baker Baseheaters are. Apparently he has one or two for sale

Baseheaters were made by several companies in Taunton, Mass starting around 1905 up till around 1933 or so. I have just removed two from an estate in Newport, RI. The nickel plating on both is NOT redone but is original to the stove. They were sold under two names and are identical except for the name on the door. the picture is the smaller of the two and is a #6 Household baseheater. The other one is a Quaker Baseheater #8 and dwarfs this stove. We do not see many of these but when we do we grab them as they are the best of all the baseheaters. The bottom is held together by long rods that eliminate any stress on the large bottom plate. The #8 is so large that it has an oven under the dome big enough to cook a small turkey. These are real heating machines and will last a lifetime or two. The #8 is simply one of the most impressive heaters ever made and if you burn coal you cannot find a better stove. Ready to go---$3000
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Re: Finally! Got my Glenwood Base Heater installed!

PostBy: dlj On: Sat Mar 20, 2010 12:57 pm

wsherrick wrote:An exerpt from the "Antique Stove Hospital," web page which describes how good Baker Baseheaters are. Apparently he has one or two for sale

Baseheaters were made by several companies in Taunton, Mass starting around 1905 up till around 1933 or so. I have just removed two from an estate in Newport, RI. The nickel plating on both is NOT redone but is original to the stove. They were sold under two names and are identical except for the name on the door. the picture is the smaller of the two and is a #6 Household baseheater. The other one is a Quaker Baseheater #8 and dwarfs this stove. We do not see many of these but when we do we grab them as they are the best of all the baseheaters. The bottom is held together by long rods that eliminate any stress on the large bottom plate. The #8 is so large that it has an oven under the dome big enough to cook a small turkey. These are real heating machines and will last a lifetime or two. The #8 is simply one of the most impressive heaters ever made and if you burn coal you cannot find a better stove. Ready to go---$3000



Ah, yes, I saw the #6 there when I picked up my Glenwood from him. It was standing next to mine. Although it's a #6, it's a lot bigger than the Glenwood. I didn't see the #8, but if it's from the same line, it has to be huge!

dj
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Re: Finally! Got my Glenwood Base Heater installed!

PostBy: colt On: Wed Mar 24, 2010 9:24 pm

dlj wrote:
colt wrote:Hello I'm colt from Michigan and that is 1 nice base heater.I recently purchased a Quaker # 8 Base heater and I can wait to get it home and working.


Colt, More photos!!!!! Gotta have more photos! I've seen a number of base heaters but haven't seen a Quaker. That little side photo next to your name just doesn't make it!

I'm just dleighted with mine. I'm actually still running it as the nights are still pretty chilly. It's idleing down very nicely. I'm still learning the slow burn part, but full bore I've got down very well...

I almost let it go out a day or two ago. But then the temp dropped back down and I actually had to stoke back to hot for a night. But the season is almost done...

Where are you going to put yours? How are the grates in it? Condition? Give us more details...

dj
I'll send more photo's as soon as the Antique Hospital sends me more.I'm picking the stove up in June form RI and stopping in PA on the way back to the buy bukk nut or stove.
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Stove/Furnace Make: Quaker #8
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Re: Finally! Got my Glenwood Base Heater installed!

PostBy: colt On: Thu Mar 25, 2010 1:40 pm

dlj wrote:
wsherrick wrote:An exerpt from the "Antique Stove Hospital," web page which describes how good Baker Baseheaters are. Apparently he has one or two for sale

Baseheaters were made by several companies in Taunton, Mass starting around 1905 up till around 1933 or so. I have just removed two from an estate in Newport, RI. The nickel plating on both is NOT redone but is original to the stove. They were sold under two names and are identical except for the name on the door. the picture is the smaller of the two and is a #6 Household baseheater. The other one is a Quaker Baseheater #8 and dwarfs this stove. We do not see many of these but when we do we grab them as they are the best of all the baseheaters. The bottom is held together by long rods that eliminate any stress on the large bottom plate. The #8 is so large that it has an oven under the dome big enough to cook a small turkey. These are real heating machines and will last a lifetime or two. The #8 is simply one of the most impressive heaters ever made and if you burn coal you cannot find a better stove. Ready to go---$3000



Ah, yes, I saw the #6 there when I picked up my Glenwood from him. It was standing next to mine. Although it's a #6, it's a lot bigger than the Glenwood. I didn't see the #8, but if it's from the same line, it has to be huge!

dj

The Stove Hospital has one Quaker Base Heater left the # 6.
colt
 
Stove/Furnace Make: Quaker #8
Stove/Furnace Model: Quaker #8

Re: Finally! Got my Glenwood Base Heater installed!

PostBy: colt On: Thu Mar 25, 2010 1:40 pm

dlj wrote:
wsherrick wrote:An exerpt from the "Antique Stove Hospital," web page which describes how good Baker Baseheaters are. Apparently he has one or two for sale

Baseheaters were made by several companies in Taunton, Mass starting around 1905 up till around 1933 or so. I have just removed two from an estate in Newport, RI. The nickel plating on both is NOT redone but is original to the stove. They were sold under two names and are identical except for the name on the door. the picture is the smaller of the two and is a #6 Household baseheater. The other one is a Quaker Baseheater #8 and dwarfs this stove. We do not see many of these but when we do we grab them as they are the best of all the baseheaters. The bottom is held together by long rods that eliminate any stress on the large bottom plate. The #8 is so large that it has an oven under the dome big enough to cook a small turkey. These are real heating machines and will last a lifetime or two. The #8 is simply one of the most impressive heaters ever made and if you burn coal you cannot find a better stove. Ready to go---$3000



Ah, yes, I saw the #6 there when I picked up my Glenwood from him. It was standing next to mine. Although it's a #6, it's a lot bigger than the Glenwood. I didn't see the #8, but if it's from the same line, it has to be huge!

dj

The Stove Hospital has one Quaker Base Heater left the # 6.
colt
 
Stove/Furnace Make: Quaker #8
Stove/Furnace Model: Quaker #8

Re: Finally! Got my Glenwood Base Heater installed!

PostBy: colt On: Thu Mar 25, 2010 1:42 pm

colt wrote:
dlj wrote:
wsherrick wrote:An exerpt from the "Antique Stove Hospital," web page which describes how good Baker Baseheaters are. Apparently he has one or two for sale

Baseheaters were made by several companies in Taunton, Mass starting around 1905 up till around 1933 or so. I have just removed two from an estate in Newport, RI. The nickel plating on both is NOT redone but is original to the stove. They were sold under two names and are identical except for the name on the door. the picture is the smaller of the two and is a #6 Household baseheater. The other one is a Quaker Baseheater #8 and dwarfs this stove. We do not see many of these but when we do we grab them as they are the best of all the baseheaters. The bottom is held together by long rods that eliminate any stress on the large bottom plate. The #8 is so large that it has an oven under the dome big enough to cook a small turkey. These are real heating machines and will last a lifetime or two. The #8 is simply one of the most impressive heaters ever made and if you burn coal you cannot find a better stove. Ready to go---$3000



Ah, yes, I saw the #6 there when I picked up my Glenwood from him. It was standing next to mine. Although it's a #6, it's a lot bigger than the Glenwood. I didn't see the #8, but if it's from the same line, it has to be huge!

dj

The Stove Hospital has one Quaker Base Heater left the # 6.The Quaker # 8 was sold to colt!
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Stove/Furnace Make: Quaker #8
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Re: Finally! Got my Glenwood Base Heater installed!

PostBy: coalnewbie On: Sun Aug 22, 2010 1:30 pm

So Mr Herrick, when are your Glenwood videos coming to youtube - can't wait? I agree those 100 year old baseheaters look practical and fun. The HMV touch with the phonograph in he SA videos was priceless, can I request a playola piano in the next series. Can you estimate the BTU and efficiency of the #6 vs the #8.

Simon
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