Obama blames Bush for Massachusetts

Re: Obama blames Bush for Massachusetts

PostBy: coalkirk On: Fri Jan 22, 2010 10:02 pm

stockingfull wrote:Mike, the polling showed that the people wanted a healthcare bill. Even a healthcare bill with a public option.
Until it got fouled by the Senate sausage-factory. That's when Scott Brown's numbers took off.

So I consider it a form of justice that neither Lieberman nor Nelson likely will get what the benefit of their sleazy bargains to be #60. And I sure don't agree that the public either was, or even now is, against universal healthcare.

What the public wants is a clean bill.


What the public wants is choice to select the amount and type of health care coverage that they want. Not what Obama says they have to have.
It's very funny that you keep bashing Lieberman, Nelson etc as sleazy but the other partner in the sleazy dealing, Obama, gets a pass. The deal with the unions was the final straw for most. That was so blatantly wrong. Obama came to office pledging to cut the special deals for interest groups. What a joke. He's been the king of special interest group deals.

Why did Scott Browns numbers take off? Several reasons. First, David Gergens gaff about this being the "Kennedy seat" and Browns quick come back that it was the peoples seat. That resonated with the regular Joe. Next, people were fed up with being ignored by the democratic rulers. Polls showed 70% of Americans did not want this abortion of a health care bill yet the dems were hellbent on cramming it through. Then the dirty dealing with unions, Nelson, Landreau. etc. People looked at those deals and cried foul. Even Nelsons own constituents were turned off. Didn't faze Obama, Pelosi or Reid. And finally, the dumb asses failed to read the mood in the country. While many people would like to see some healthcare reform, IT'S THE ECONOMY STUPID!!! People are either hurting or scared to death they will lose their jobs and their homes. Can't wait for the fall elections.
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Re: Obama blames Bush for Massachusetts

PostBy: stockingfull On: Fri Jan 22, 2010 10:32 pm

Let's look at the chart (but note that the timeline is not to scale):
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Just look at it:
The Lieberman torpedo struck on December 13.
The unholy Reid-Nelson deal was about December 21.
The Gergen stumble was January 12.
The Schilling gaffe was January 16.

Face it: Lieberman and Nelson created the stench; the Freedom Works bellows had a couple weeks to blow it around.

Want more detail?
http://www.nytimes.com/2010/01/21/us/politics/21reconstruct.html

It was a perfect storm. Caught us sleeping.

Won't happen again, at least not the sleeping part.
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Re: Obama blames Bush for Massachusetts

PostBy: smokeyCityTeacher On: Fri Jan 22, 2010 11:31 pm

could you superimpose the time lines of the Nebraska & UAW exemption + the Louisiana Purchase ?



stockingfull wrote:Let's look at the chart (but note that the timeline is not to scale):
Image

Just look at it:
The Lieberman torpedo struck on December 13.
The unholy Reid-Nelson deal was about December 21.
The Gergen stumble was January 12.
The Schilling gaffe was January 16.

Face it: Lieberman and Nelson created the stench; the Freedom Works bellows had a couple weeks to blow it around.

Want more detail?
http://www.nytimes.com/2010/01/21/us/politics/21reconstruct.html

It was a perfect storm. Caught us sleeping.

Won't happen again, at least not the sleeping part.
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Re: Obama blames Bush for Massachusetts

PostBy: smokeyCityTeacher On: Fri Jan 22, 2010 11:34 pm

stockingfull wrote:It was a perfect storm. Caught us sleeping.
Won't happen again, at least not the sleeping part.


They were not sleeping when the Titanic sank either and they said "God himself could not sink her".

Obama is the Titanic and his hubris is his downfall.

That perfect storm has barely begun.
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Re: Obama blames Bush for Massachusetts

PostBy: stockingfull On: Fri Jan 22, 2010 11:37 pm

Just a little poli sci for you, Teach.

Now that you're here, next time I'll send you the version with the answers in the back. ;)

We'll have some fun this year with this stuff.
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Re: Obama blames Bush for Massachusetts

PostBy: smokeyCityTeacher On: Fri Jan 22, 2010 11:45 pm

stockingfull wrote:Just a little poli sci for you, Teach.
Now that you're here, next time I'll send you the version with the answers in the back. ;)
We'll have some fun this year with this stuff.


:?: :?: :?:

whatever that means ... but OK ... i like to read the back of the book first anyway
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Re: Obama blames Bush for Massachusetts

PostBy: stockingfull On: Fri Jan 22, 2010 11:52 pm

smokeyCityTeacher wrote:
stockingfull wrote:Just a little poli sci for you, Teach.
Now that you're here, next time I'll send you the version with the answers in the back. ;)
We'll have some fun this year with this stuff.


:?: :?:

whatever that means ... but OK ... i like to read the back of the book first anyway

C'mon, man. The "teacher's edition" has the answers in the back (you know, in case the teacher doesn't know the answers :roll: ).

Keep up now. 8-)
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Re: Obama blames Bush for Massachusetts

PostBy: smokeyCityTeacher On: Fri Jan 22, 2010 11:55 pm

stockingfull wrote:
smokeyCityTeacher wrote:
stockingfull wrote:Just a little poli sci for you, Teach.
Now that you're here, next time I'll send you the version with the answers in the back. ;)
We'll have some fun this year with this stuff.


:?: :?:

whatever that means ... but OK ... i like to read the back of the book first anyway

C'mon, man. The "teacher's edition" has the answers in the back (you know, in case the teacher doesn't know the answers :roll: ).

Keep up now. 8-)



im reading ..im reading ..
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