Here is what the Democrats need to do to pass thier bill

Here is what the Democrats need to do to pass thier bill

PostBy: smokeyCityTeacher On: Sat Jan 23, 2010 12:48 am

Have O speak directly to the people and say -

"We screwed up and we know it. He heard what you said in MASS and we understand we made it too big and too complex.
We will now offer you a simple bill. It works like this...

You ALL get the exact same health care plan and coverage as we do - the very same health plan and level of coverage/subsidization -- as every U.S Senator has right now. "


...california dreamin
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Re: Here is what the Democrats need to do to pass thier bill

PostBy: brckwlt On: Sat Jan 23, 2010 12:55 am

smokeyCityTeacher wrote:Have O speak directly to the people and say -

"We screwed up and we know it. He heard what you said in MASS and we understand we made it too big and too complex.
We will now offer you a simple bill. It works like this...

You ALL get the exact same health care plan and coverage as we do - the very same health plan and level of coverage/subsidization -- as every U.S Senator has right now. "


...california dreamin


that would probably cost us 10 trillion instead of 1 trillion or whatever the current cost is to do socialized health care. and i still wouldnt want "free" health care from the government. Plus it wouldnt be free anyway. we would still pay for it in taxes
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Re: Here is what the Democrats need to do to pass thier bill

PostBy: Poconoeagle On: Sat Jan 23, 2010 12:56 am

wouldnt that be nice to actually have a govt that could do that, AND do that across the boards for any and all issues......

I bet we the people would ,after a trust re-build period of time, actually pay them dearly for acting in our best interest and taking care of us citizens well.

Gee wouldnt that be nice......... :gee:



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Re: Here is what the Democrats need to do to pass thier bill

PostBy: smokeyCityTeacher On: Sat Jan 23, 2010 1:02 am

Poconoeagle wrote:wouldnt that be nice to actually have a govt that could do that, AND do that across the boards for any and all issues......

I bet we the people would ,after a trust re-build period of time, actually pay them dearly for acting in our best interest and taking care of us citizens well.

Gee wouldnt that be nice......... :gee:



and before I wake up - I have a dream.. A dream that politicians don't pass laws that affect the people but not themselves.

As for the $10T issue. We would save trillions just on the fact that there is no new bureaucracy to build. Its already there. We just add more names to the database of who is in the plan. Its funny that its OUR money - but they will tell us that what we are giving THEM is too good for US.
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Re: Here is what the Democrats need to do to pass thier bill

PostBy: tvb On: Sat Jan 23, 2010 6:15 am

We will now offer you a simple bill. It works like this...

You ALL get the exact same health care plan and coverage as we do - the very same health plan and level of coverage/subsidization -- as every U.S Senator has right now. "


That was the original plan. It's called the public option and your side (along with Joe Lieberman, representing Aetna and other health insurance companies, along with couple other DINOs with egos bigger than those who elected them) said NO!
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Re: Here is what the Democrats need to do to pass thier bill

PostBy: JohnMck On: Sat Jan 23, 2010 7:34 am

No, That was not the original plan. Congress was exempt from the Health Care nightmare that they were trying to foist on us.
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Re: Here is what the Democrats need to do to pass thier bill

PostBy: samhill On: Sat Jan 23, 2010 8:43 am

All they would have to do is tax the money spent by the ins. co.s lobbist against the bill & it would be half paid for by now. Isn`t it wonderful how big business will spend so much money looking out for the best interest of the average person.
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Re: Here is what the Democrats need to do to pass thier bill

PostBy: coalkirk On: Sat Jan 23, 2010 8:49 am

tvb wrote:
We will now offer you a simple bill. It works like this...

You ALL get the exact same health care plan and coverage as we do - the very same health plan and level of coverage/subsidization -- as every U.S Senator has right now. "


That was the original plan. It's called the public option and your side (along with Joe Lieberman, representing Aetna and other health insurance companies, along with couple other DINOs with egos bigger than those who elected them) said NO!


Instead of saving the whales today, do some reading about the proposed health care bill that just got killed. It was nothing more than a trillion dollar gift to the insurance companies. Where are you going to get your news now that Air-heads America is in the dumper?
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Re: Here is what the Democrats need to do to pass thier bill

PostBy: tvb On: Sat Jan 23, 2010 8:56 am

CK, instead of continuing to show the world your extreme passive aggressiveness, why don't YOU go back and read what was ORIGINALLY proposed regarding the public option ... an option your side kicked and screamed about before they even saw it.
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Re: Here is what the Democrats need to do to pass thier bill

PostBy: samhill On: Sat Jan 23, 2010 9:10 am

I think they should just put the five newest from each house & both parties in an undisclosed location for a month & after that time vote on whatever they came up with. No outside influence, no pork, no lobbiest just come up with what they believe is the best fix for the people (not themselves).
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Re: Here is what the Democrats need to do to pass thier bill

PostBy: jpete On: Sat Jan 23, 2010 9:22 am

I can't believe we are arguing about how much government control we want. If you are unable or unwilling to run your own life or feel you really need someone to tell you how to live I have a couple "government options" for you. Join the military or go to prison. Please. Leave the capable, responsible people alone.
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Re: Here is what the Democrats need to do to pass thier bill

PostBy: lowfog01 On: Sat Jan 23, 2010 9:33 am

tvb wrote:CK, instead of continuing to show the world your extreme passive aggressiveness, why don't YOU go back and read what was ORIGINALLY proposed regarding the public option ... an option your side kicked and screamed about before they even saw it.


You're blind acceptance of every thing coming from the left of center continues to amaze me. Tell me just how was anyone other then the "favored few" supposed to see or say anything when your heroes changed the locks and refused to let the “right” in the room much less in the conversation. Or didn't you read/see that in the mainstream media you depend on for your news? This experiment in one party government should have scared the pants of every man, woman and child in the US; it still should because this isn’t over yet. This bill is nothing more than a tax and spend attempt at giving socialism an even stronger foothold in the United States. Have you looked at the documentation that shows the average American's insurance rates would have skyrocketed? Do you know that there is something like 250 new taxes in the bill? Why would you support something that “dumps” on the elderly and the youth just coming of age? Are you really ready to give the Government power over your life and death medical decisions? That morphs into your everyday existence because the food you eat, the activities you chose to participate in and general life choices will all be tied back to what medical care you will receive. The fact that MA, which already has an universal health insurance and still voted for the candidate who pledged to vote no on this bill should be smacking you along side your head. I just don’t get it but then I haven't NEEDED someone to take care of me since I was 18. I suggest you spend time reading the Constitution instead of the crap coming out of the left side of Congress. Have a great day, Lisa


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Re: Here is what the Democrats need to do to pass thier bill

PostBy: Black_And_Blue On: Sat Jan 23, 2010 9:34 am

tvb wrote:
We will now offer you a simple bill. It works like this...

You ALL get the exact same health care plan and coverage as we do - the very same health plan and level of coverage/subsidization -- as every U.S Senator has right now. "


That was the original plan. It's called the public option and your side (along with Joe Lieberman, representing Aetna and other health insurance companies, along with couple other DINOs with egos bigger than those who elected them) said NO!



TVB : The Democrats had the physical majority to pass whatever they wanted without any Republican input.

So why didn't they just do it, hmmm?
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Re: Here is what the Democrats need to do to pass thier bill

PostBy: tvb On: Sat Jan 23, 2010 9:41 am

Black_And_Blue wrote:

So why didn't they just do it, hmmm?


It's a good question, why didn't they? I guess that would be because there are some within that majority who really should have Rs behind their name.

Regardless, it's mighty funny that the OP thinks the Public Option is such a great idea and apparently some of his cohorts here do too. Even funnier is how that wasn't the case a few months ago when it was on the table and quickly knocked off by those DINOs and your side.
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Re: Here is what the Democrats need to do to pass thier bill

PostBy: tvb On: Sat Jan 23, 2010 9:43 am

lowfog01 wrote:
The fact that MA, which already has an universal health insurance and still voted for the candidate who pledged to vote no on this bill should be smacking you along side your head. I just don’t get it but then I haven't NEEDED someone to take care of me since I was 18. I suggest you spend time reading the Constitution instead of the crap coming out of the left side of Congress. Have a great day, Lisa


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Do you not know what the public option is?

And your Saint Scotty McHotty voted for and thinks the MassPlan is a great plan.
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