Need a little advice on an older Kodiak Stoker Stove II

Re: Need a little advice on an older Kodiak Stoker Stove II

PostBy: cntbill On: Mon Feb 01, 2010 3:06 am

Nifty Jacket 8-) - How much of an increase of heat output do you get with it?

Is there a initial setting for the stoker carpet? Like how much travel should there be to begin with? How far should the tab be from the end? .. etc?
cntbill
 
Hot Air Coal Stoker Furnace: Keystoker A70/A90
Hand Fed Coal Stove: Aarrow Astra
Coal Size/Type: Rice to Stove

Re: Need a little advice on an older Kodiak Stoker Stove II

PostBy: Rick 386 On: Mon Feb 01, 2010 9:34 am

Bill,

When I watch the carpet move, it is only like 1/4 - 5/16 " I think. If I remember, I'll measure the distance from the cap nut tonight when I get home.

The jacket was only used so that I can push the heat farther away from the stove rather than just allow it to radiate in the immediate area. It really is not much different than the jacket available for use on the LL stoves. I have access to flat sheet metal. I just bent the pieces into a "U" shape to fit the stove and then tack welded them direct to it. I then used hi temp sealer to fill in the gaps between tack welds.
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Stoker Coal Boiler: AA 260 heating both sides of twin farmhouse
Hot Air Coal Stoker Stove: LL Hyfire II w/ coaltrol in garage
Coal Size/Type: Pea in AA 260, Rice in LL Hyfire II
Other Heating: Gas fired infared at work

Re: Need a little advice on an older Kodiak Stoker Stove II

PostBy: Rick 386 On: Mon Feb 01, 2010 9:41 pm

Bill,

Just checked it tonight. At mid burn, there is 5/8" threaded rod between the carpet plate and the cap nut when the plate is being pushed backwards.



Rick
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Stoker Coal Boiler: AA 260 heating both sides of twin farmhouse
Hot Air Coal Stoker Stove: LL Hyfire II w/ coaltrol in garage
Coal Size/Type: Pea in AA 260, Rice in LL Hyfire II
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Re: Need a little advice on an older Kodiak Stoker Stove II

PostBy: cntbill On: Tue Feb 02, 2010 1:05 am

Rick 386 wrote:Bill,

Just checked it tonight. At mid burn, there is 5/8" threaded rod between the carpet plate and the cap nut when the plate is being pushed backwards.

Rick


Rick,

Thanks a lot for the info! Now I have a place to start. Hopefully I should have it ready to fire up tomorrow evening. :)

I didn't know that there is supposed to have a special exhaust vent extension, so I had to run down to the Alaska dealer in Lancaster and pick one up. The guy there gave me a couple of pointers on starting it. So I should be set with all the info I have read here on the Forum :D

Thanks again,

Bill...
cntbill
 
Hot Air Coal Stoker Furnace: Keystoker A70/A90
Hand Fed Coal Stove: Aarrow Astra
Coal Size/Type: Rice to Stove

Re: Need a little advice on an older Kodiak Stoker Stove II

PostBy: cntbill On: Thu Feb 04, 2010 3:08 am

A day later but it is up and running, the 5/8 setting seems to work out good.

Followed the instructions "How to light a stocker stove" using lump charcoal and worked like a charm... wow my first time lighting a stoker and worked right off the bat Thanks to all the members and info on this Forum!

I didn't pay too much attention on cleaning the stove, since I will be moving it in the basement sometime in the spring. But I am amazed on how much heat this thing puts out, right now running at a little over 400* and I am guessing this is probably only like a medium low setting. Vent pipe just before the baro is 100*, and after just warm, the PV is cold to touch.

Here's a couple of photo's
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Hot Air Coal Stoker Furnace: Keystoker A70/A90
Hand Fed Coal Stove: Aarrow Astra
Coal Size/Type: Rice to Stove

Re: Need a little advice on an older Kodiak Stoker Stove II

PostBy: katman On: Thu Feb 04, 2010 9:16 am

What is the "special exhaust vent extension" that you needed. I never heard of that till you mentioned it.
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Re: Need a little advice on an older Kodiak Stoker Stove II

PostBy: coal berner On: Thu Feb 04, 2010 10:14 am

cntbill wrote:A day later but it is up and running, the 5/8 setting seems to work out good.

Followed the instructions "How to light a stocker stove" using lump charcoal and worked like a charm... wow my first time lighting a stoker and worked right off the bat Thanks to all the members and info on this Forum!

I didn't pay too much attention on cleaning the stove, since I will be moving it in the basement sometime in the spring. But I am amazed on how much heat this thing puts out, right now running at a little over 400* and I am guessing this is probably only like a medium low setting. Vent pipe just before the baro is 100*, and after just warm, the PV is cold to touch.

Here's a couple of photo's

FYI if you need a manual for it Email or call Alaska there making the stoker again


http://www.alaskastove.com/site/
This link is broken, either the page no longer exists or there is some other issue like a typo.
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Re: Need a little advice on an older Kodiak Stoker Stove II

PostBy: LsFarm On: Thu Feb 04, 2010 10:25 am

A 'full burn' would be with the grate completely covered with red, burning coal.. with the last 1" or less just burnt ash. So right now you are roughly at 'half' capacity, according to the photo.

With a little clean up, you will have a virtually new stove for a few $$ and some work. Congrats !.

Greg L

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Re: Need a little advice on an older Kodiak Stoker Stove II

PostBy: cntbill On: Thu Feb 04, 2010 11:18 am

katman wrote:What is the "special exhaust vent extension" that you needed. I never heard of that till you mentioned it.


It seems the older Alaska Stoker Stoves had them (the dealer had a bunch on the shelf). The exhaust vent size is just a little larger where a 6" pipe won't fit over or in, the extension is cone shape. Here is a link to another thread where I posted a photo

Distance of Baro from stove and PowerVent

LsFarm wrote:A 'full burn' would be with the grate completely covered with red, burning coal.. with the last 1" or less just burnt ash. So right now you are roughly at 'half' capacity, according to the photo.

With a little clean up, you will have a virtually new stove for a few $$ and some work. Congrats !.

Greg L

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Good to know, that setting is from Rick's measurements. Yes, a bit of a good clean up and some minor details so I can't complain on what I have into it. I really just wanted to see how well this stove will work and get a handle on it, then when I move it to the basement I'll be prepared and understand it better.

coal berner wrote:FYI if you need a manual for it Email or call Alaska there making the stoker again

http://www.alaskastove.com/site/
This link is broken, either the page no longer exists or there is some other issue like a typo.


That's interesting that Alaska is making them again, I would like to take a gander of the "new" one and see what improvements there might be. And yes I sent Alaska an email and they have the manual available, if I remember correctly it is like $8.00 plus shipping.
cntbill
 
Hot Air Coal Stoker Furnace: Keystoker A70/A90
Hand Fed Coal Stove: Aarrow Astra
Coal Size/Type: Rice to Stove

Re: Need a little advice on an older Kodiak Stoker Stove II

PostBy: Rick 386 On: Thu Feb 04, 2010 12:09 pm

Bill,

Looking good. That pic looks just about like the fire on mine with that setting. Now if you want to experiment a little bit, turn that cam lobe out 1 more time toward the cap nut. wait 1 hour and see how much fire you get. If you have fire and about 1" of ash before it falls off the grate, that will be your max heat setting. If there is still too much ash, give it another turn. You need to find that max setting.

Then if it warms up a bit and you have more time, try going the reverse to get your minimum setting. For me it seems to be 4 - 5 turns from min to max. When I had this in my work garage, I used to set it at min for overnight. Then when coming in to the shop in the morning, a quick 4 turns, 1 or 2 manual activations of the carpet and I would be at max fire in about 5 minutes.


Congrads on the light up. You can also put a box fan near the stove to wash off some more heat.




Rick
Rick 386
 
Stoker Coal Boiler: AA 260 heating both sides of twin farmhouse
Hot Air Coal Stoker Stove: LL Hyfire II w/ coaltrol in garage
Coal Size/Type: Pea in AA 260, Rice in LL Hyfire II
Other Heating: Gas fired infared at work

Re: Need a little advice on an older Kodiak Stoker Stove II

PostBy: cntbill On: Thu Feb 04, 2010 12:46 pm

Rick 386 wrote:Bill,

Looking good. That pic looks just about like the fire on mine with that setting. Now if you want to experiment a little bit, turn that cam lobe out 1 more time toward the cap nut. wait 1 hour and see how much fire you get. If you have fire and about 1" of ash before it falls off the grate, that will be your max heat setting. If there is still too much ash, give it another turn. You need to find that max setting.

Then if it warms up a bit and you have more time, try going the reverse to get your minimum setting. For me it seems to be 4 - 5 turns from min to max. When I had this in my work garage, I used to set it at min for overnight. Then when coming in to the shop in the morning, a quick 4 turns, 1 or 2 manual activations of the carpet and I would be at max fire in about 5 minutes.


Congrads on the light up. You can also put a box fan near the stove to wash off some more heat.




Rick


Thanks for all the advice! :D

I turned it back two just before going to sleep, and right now stove is at 350* (at least where I put the thermometer), there is about 3" of ash on the end and a little better than 2" of fire. I can see that this is going to be a bit of experimenting to get the feel of it.

Box fan would be a good idea, considering that my patch job on the blower fan didn't quite work out. After about running it for 2 hrs. the rubber/plastic parts that drive the cage came loose and the cage was rattling on the housing, so I just put 2 120v 4" cooling fans from a server case on top of the bin cover blowing out the front. They work pretty good but a little loud.

Thanks
cntbill
 
Hot Air Coal Stoker Furnace: Keystoker A70/A90
Hand Fed Coal Stove: Aarrow Astra
Coal Size/Type: Rice to Stove

Re: Need a little advice on an older Kodiak Stoker Stove II

PostBy: Brian On: Thu Feb 04, 2010 5:02 pm

Check the Grainger web site for Transflow Blower 56w. Grainger item #4c744 price each $75.85. Dayton motor.Good Luck
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Re: Need a little advice on an older Kodiak Stoker Stove II

PostBy: cntbill On: Thu Feb 04, 2010 5:11 pm

Brian wrote:Check the Grainger web site for Transflow Blower 56w. Grainger item #4c744 price each $75.85. Dayton motor.Good Luck


Thanks for the info, I'll check it out...
cntbill
 
Hot Air Coal Stoker Furnace: Keystoker A70/A90
Hand Fed Coal Stove: Aarrow Astra
Coal Size/Type: Rice to Stove

Re: Need a little advice on an older Kodiak Stoker Stove II

PostBy: cntbill On: Wed Feb 10, 2010 2:56 am

Ok... now I have another question as I picked up an Manometer. What is the suggested draft setting using a power venter for this stove measured with a manometer?

Or maybe I should put this question in the chimney area?

Thanks,

Bill...
cntbill
 
Hot Air Coal Stoker Furnace: Keystoker A70/A90
Hand Fed Coal Stove: Aarrow Astra
Coal Size/Type: Rice to Stove

Re: Need a little advice on an older Kodiak Stoker Stove II

PostBy: cntbill On: Sun Feb 21, 2010 2:27 am

Been running the stove for a bit now and so far so good, this thing is a breeze to operate, empty ash each day, add coal every other day, :) But a question on the temperature.

I have the thermometer on the front in the middle towards the top (see earlier post pic) as I would guess this to be one of the hottest places on the stove. What I am guessing is when at the "Low setting", the temp is about 200* turn it up one spin and it's at 300*, one more turn of the tab puts it about 375-400*. So are these temps about right? And just out of curiosity, what would be the safest High temp?
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Hot Air Coal Stoker Furnace: Keystoker A70/A90
Hand Fed Coal Stove: Aarrow Astra
Coal Size/Type: Rice to Stove

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