Why Is My Door Glass Becoming Crazed?
- DigicamLife
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I am now 1 month into my first coal stove. It is a Pine Barren unit that I bought used from a hobbyist refurbish-er in Allentown, PA. So far I am very satisfied with the stove itself. It burns well but is not as efficient as I would like. However that is another story. What I am most concerned with right now is the condition of the glass within the door.
I know that there will always be a slight build up of fly ash on the glass and that it will need to be cleaned occasionally. That I can deal with. What concerns me is the slight increase in crazing that I notice after cleaning. It is not particularly noticeable when viewing the fire from across the room but why is it happening and is it a standard reaction to being near so much heat. I looked up what should be in there (type of ceramic glass) and all the information gives me is a thermal shock rating of 1380° but nothing about how high temp glass behaves.
Any help or information out there.
John
I know that there will always be a slight build up of fly ash on the glass and that it will need to be cleaned occasionally. That I can deal with. What concerns me is the slight increase in crazing that I notice after cleaning. It is not particularly noticeable when viewing the fire from across the room but why is it happening and is it a standard reaction to being near so much heat. I looked up what should be in there (type of ceramic glass) and all the information gives me is a thermal shock rating of 1380° but nothing about how high temp glass behaves.
Any help or information out there.
John
- oliver power
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It's very common. As far as I know, it doesn't hurt anything. My glass has been crazed for years. If it was a safty issue, I'd put my brand new spare glass in.
- DigicamLife
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Ok guys, Thanks for the reassurance. So I guess what I should do in the spring is to remove the glass and carefully measure and purchase a replacement window to have on hand. I did replace a few fire bricks at my last cleaning and now I have an even dozen on hand as that is exactly the number the stove takes. At 2 bucks a piece they are cheap replacements. The glass on the other hand is going to be around 100 according to the glass place I checked.WNY wrote:Normal, could be the contaminants/impurities in the coal. Mine are the same way. Been that way for years.
Thanks again,
John
Just learn to live with it. No use in spending money just to see the fire for a while. You will learn to love the orange glow as many of us have done.DigicamLife wrote:Ok guys, Thanks for the reassurance. So I guess what I should do in the spring is to remove the glass and carefully measure and purchase a replacement window to have on hand. I did replace a few fire bricks at my last cleaning and now I have an even dozen on hand as that is exactly the number the stove takes. At 2 bucks a piece they are cheap replacements. The glass on the other hand is going to be around 100 according to the glass place I checked.WNY wrote:Normal, could be the contaminants/impurities in the coal. Mine are the same way. Been that way for years.
Thanks again,
John
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It looks like tiny spiderwebs if you look at it closely.
The best way to minimize it is to keep the upper & lower channels clean on the top & bottom mounting points of the glass (at least with Harmans). If you have good airflow through both the top & bottom, you'll get very little crazing. .. or I should say LESS crazing.
The best way to minimize it is to keep the upper & lower channels clean on the top & bottom mounting points of the glass (at least with Harmans). If you have good airflow through both the top & bottom, you'll get very little crazing. .. or I should say LESS crazing.
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I agree; Don't spend money on spare glass because the glass you have is crazed, and you want to be prepared in case something happens due to the crazed glass. I have a spare glass in case someone throws a brick through the glass. Not because my glass is crazed. I don't know why I have a spare glass. My uncle said he was going to buy a spare glass in case something ever happens to the glass in his stove. I thought it was a good idea. So I bought a spare glass. Don't ask me why. Should something ever happen, I'll be glad I have it.gambler wrote:Just learn to live with it. No use in spending money just to see the fire for a while. You will learn to love the orange glow as many of us have done.DigicamLife wrote: Ok guys, Thanks for the reassurance. So I guess what I should do in the spring is to remove the glass and carefully measure and purchase a replacement window to have on hand. I did replace a few fire bricks at my last cleaning and now I have an even dozen on hand as that is exactly the number the stove takes. At 2 bucks a piece they are cheap replacements. The glass on the other hand is going to be around 100 according to the glass place I checked.
Thanks again,
John
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Well thanks Oliver,oliver power wrote: I agree; Don't spend money on spare glass because the glass you have is crazed, and you want to be prepared in case something happens due to the crazed glass. I have a spare glass in case someone throws a brick through the glass. Not because my glass is crazed. I don't know why I have a spare glass. My uncle said he was going to buy a spare glass in case something ever happens to the glass in his stove. I thought it was a good idea. So I bought a spare glass. Don't ask me why. Should something ever happen, I'll be glad I have it.
That was a most convoluted way of telling me that it is OK to have a spare glass on hand.
Not because of the crazing but because if ever something was to happen to the glass, (brick, baseball, angry wife or kid) I would not want to be without the use of the stove for the length of time it would take to replace it. The other reason I can think of for ordering one is that I will have an intact piece of glass to measure against. I am not going to shut the stove down for more than a quick cleaning until spring, so until then lets hope nothing goes wrong.
John
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The first glass in my Hitzer crazed in fine lines running vertically after a few months of use. A year later it cracked from top to bottom for no known reason. I bought a new glass from Hitzer (Robax). A year later it has not even crazed yet. I have never overheated the stove. I kept the cracked one for a spare because it is still air tight or close to it.