Advice for Hitzer 50-93

rji68 · Post by **rji68** » Wed. Feb. 03, 2010 10:23 pm

I am looking into buying one of these stoves, just not sure weather or not to go with the blower option for the extra 200.00 dollars or not? I can buy the radiant model for 1180.00 or the blower model for 1380.00 seems like a fair price to me. I have been using a old riteway 37 burning mostly wood, and growing very tired of the creosote problems with the wood and my stainless steel liner. Tried burning Anthracite in my current stove, which is possible but cant seem to get it to burn enough, the unburned coal gets hung up in my shaker grates. Any info would be great.

oliver power · Post by **oliver power** » Thu. Feb. 04, 2010 2:30 am

Personally, I'd go with the fan option.

katman · Post by **katman** » Thu. Feb. 04, 2010 8:11 am

Definately get the fan. Once you get the coal burner you will wonder why you didn't do it sooner. I have an old riteway in my workshop and a small coal stoker. I keep the riteway around for burning wood cleared from the property but it is a real pain to have to keep feeding the thing.

LsFarm · Post by **LsFarm** » Thu. Feb. 04, 2010 9:26 am

Moving this to the Hand Fired forum for better exposure.

Greg L

DigicamLife · Post by **DigicamLife** » Thu. Feb. 04, 2010 12:03 pm

When I was looking at stoves I only looked for used stoves because of the price. I ended up dealing with a fellow up in Allentown, PA who refurbs and sells stoves. I originally found him on Craig's List advertising a stove that had no blower. I liked the looks and the price on that stove and so went up there to look at it. While there I saw that he had another stove running in his workshop/garage and it had a blower. I don't know why I hadn't considered a blower as part of the package before hand but once I saw this one running and felt the hot air escaping the vent holes I knew that I had to have that option. So I ended up buying that stove instead of the original one I came to see.

The stove I bought was a Pine Barren Patrician that started out as a fireplace insert. The guy I bought it from welded legs onto the bottom installed a collar in the top vent hole and turned it into a free standing stove. One of the nice design aspects of the stove is that there are two blowers installed in the cabinet. They are both installed on the inside of the cabinet so that there is nothing hanging off of the back and that allowed me to install it very tightly into a walk in fireplace in my family room. Since there are no clearance issues and no outside blower I pushed it back within a few inches of the back wall of the fireplace.

Here are a couple of pictures of the blowers left and right and the whole installation of the stove.

The amount of heat generated by the stove is pretty fantastic and I am sure that having a blower system is the one aspect of the stove that is allowing me to heat my entire two story farm house with no other heat source currently running.

Good luck with your decision and I hope you enjoy your next stove no matter which way you go.

John

Click on the picture to get a larger image. You can see the power cord located on the left side of the stove.

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Click on the picture to get a larger image. The right side blower is next to the shaker arm.

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Click on the picture to get a larger image. It tucked in perfectly to my existing fireplace but I did go ahead and put a new SS linger all the way up and out.

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Poconoeagle · Post by **Poconoeagle** » Thu. Feb. 04, 2010 12:18 pm

DigicamLife wrote:When I was looking at stoves I only looked for used stoves because of the price. I ended up dealing with a fellow up in Allentown, PA who refurbs and sells stoves. I originally found him on Craig's List advertising a stove that had no blower. I liked the looks and the price on that stove and so went up there to look at it. While there I saw that he had another stove running in his workshop/garage and it had a blower. I don't know why I hadn't considered a blower as part of the package before hand but once I saw this one running and felt the hot air escaping the vent holes I knew that I had to have that option. So I ended up buying that stove instead of the original one I came to see.

The stove I bought was a Pine Barren Patrician that started out as a fireplace insert. The guy I bought it from welded legs onto the bottom installed a collar in the top vent hole and turned it into a free standing stove. One of the nice design aspects of the stove is that there are two blowers installed in the cabinet. They are both installed on the inside of the cabinet so that there is nothing hanging off of the back and that allowed me to install it very tightly into a walk in fireplace in my family room. Since there are no clearance issues and no outside blower I pushed it back within a few inches of the back wall of the fireplace.

Here are a couple of pictures of the blowers left and right and the whole installation of the stove.

The amount of heat generated by the stove is pretty fantastic and I am sure that having a blower system is the one aspect of the stove that is allowing me to heat my entire two story farm house with no other heat source currently running.

Good luck with your decision and I hope you enjoy your next stove no matter which way you go.

John
StoveBlower-L.jpg
StoveBlower-R.jpg
CoalStove-3.jpg

Hey John, did you concider swapping the Barro tee and the legnth of pipe above it around?? maybe it wouldnt suck direct stove radiation in as much?? just wonderin.

that looks very cool BTW...

DigicamLife · Post by **DigicamLife** » Thu. Feb. 04, 2010 12:27 pm

Poconoeagle wrote:
Hey John, did you concider swapping the Barro tee and the legnth of pipe above it around?? maybe it wouldnt suck direct stove radiation in as much?? just wonderin.

that looks very cool BTW...

Hi PE,

Not only am I considering it I am going to do so in the spring when I shut down for the season.

I had a chimney man install everything from the cap at the top of the chimney down to the stove itself and it was his decision to place the Barro at the location it ended up. Later after reading over the instructions that came with the Barro I realized that it really needs to be about 18 inches above the top of the stove. Luckily all I have to do is swap the T with the one piece of pipe above it and it will be fine. First year learning curve and man am I learning.

Thanks,

John

coalvet · Post by **coalvet** » Thu. Feb. 04, 2010 1:23 pm

John, you probably already realize this but don't forget to remove those fan screens and clean the blades and motor whenever they need it!

Rich

baldeagle · Post by **baldeagle** » Thu. Feb. 04, 2010 8:02 pm

DJI 68 We have a Hitzer 354 w/ fan .......... we ooonly use fan when its below 10F, and to get a little extra
heat in the morning. Take your choice. baldeagle

sharkman8810 · Post by **sharkman8810** » Thu. Feb. 04, 2010 9:01 pm

It would depend on how you plan on using it. Are you just heating the room or floor it is in, or are you going to try and duct the heat around? What kind of setup is your current wood burner, does it have a blower or is a fan model? Maybe match the existing kind of stove type if it is being used in the same manner. If you want to duct using a hood or cabinet around the stove, a radiant model works better. If you are space heating a blower maybe better. You can always put a fan and blow it over a radiant stove. The blower stoves are doubled walled and the blower moves the air between the two walls to heat it, while a single wall radiant will give you more heat without electricity or noise of the fan.

rji68 · Post by **rji68** » Thu. Feb. 04, 2010 10:31 pm

I am planning on putting it in the basement, where my Riteway sits now. I don't have my current stove hooked up to any duct work, it works great with just radiant heat, I have a ranch home that seams to draft very well. So that is why I am torn on the blower option. On a side note I am wondering how well my stainless liner will hold up to full time coal burning?

freetown fred · Post by **freetown fred** » Fri. Feb. 05, 2010 7:42 am

The price w/ blower is real good.I have a 50-93 heating a 200 yr old farm house--around 3000 sq. ft. I pd. a little more-- $100.00 more--for it.I don't use the blower all the time but it's real nice to have it available.I'm real pleased w/ it's performance

--it took a while to get the combination straight,but through this site--we figured it out & I sit here writing this nice & toasty--Time for barn chores--keep us posted on your progress

freetown fred · Post by **freetown fred** » Fri. Feb. 05, 2010 7:45 am

By the way--your stainless should work just fine--a chimney that's in good shape is just that,in good shape--look it over real good

freetown fred wrote:The price w/ blower is real good.I have a 50-93 heating a 200 yr old farm house--around 3000 sq. ft. I pd. a little more-- $100.00 more--for it.I don't use the blower all the time but it's real nice to have it available.I'm real pleased w/ it's performance --it took a while to get the combination straight,but through this site--we figured it out & I sit here writing this nice & toasty--Time for barn chores--keep us posted on your progress

loub · Post by **loub** » Fri. Feb. 05, 2010 12:51 pm

Just bought and installed a Hitzer 50-93 with the fan option last week. I would go with the fan it blows out a lot of nice heat.

rji68 · Post by **rji68** » Fri. Feb. 05, 2010 5:54 pm

Just wanted to thank everyone for sharing all the information. I think I am going to go with the blower model this spring after I finish up this years wood supply.