Kevin H wrote:Like McCain said, there will be a time to let the private markets take the reins, but right now, we've got to "Stop the bleeding," and I believe Obama has done so IMO. We'll never know for sure. We know the economy is more stable than it was when Obama walked in, but no telling if it would be better, worse, or same if another candidate had taken the White House. This conservative manifesto that if you cut taxes, drill oil, increase military spending, and de-regulate everything, the whole problem will be immediately and magically obliterated-- Really? How you figure?
"We know the economy is more stable than it was when Obama walked in..."
Say what - where do you get the data to support that statement? The jobless rate is now a whopping 9.7% and that's down from a flat 10%. Despite the .3 decrease the country actually lost jobs last month. Any thing that says things are better is clearly mistaken - it's all fuzzy accounting. Ask anyone of the 17% of the population that is truly unemployed. On top of that the jobs which the administration’s stimulus is creating are non sustainable government jobs. I'd be interested in you providing me with the data that shows private sector jobs are being created through the stimulus bill. Those private sector jobs are the backbone of our economy and they aren't there anymore for a variety of reasons mostly because of Obama's current economic strategy of tax and spend but also because of the spending of the last Republican administration. Combine that with the uncertainty of Obama’s redistribution of wealth and you have the cause of the current stagnate economy. And then there is the increased federal deficit which threatens the well being of every man, woman and child of this country until eternity.
"This conservative manifesto that if you cut taxes, drill oil, increase military spending, and de-regulate everything, the whole problem will be immediately and magically obliterated-- Really? How you figure? "
I suggest you look at not only the Reagan tax cuts and the historic turn around in the US economy they made but also look at those put in place by JFK during the short time he had in office. Those facts speak for themselves.
"Re jobs, where are they really? Well, since you ask, they've been shipped overseas."
You never mention why the production jobs have been shipped overseas. To causal observer that may seem counterproductive given the transportation cost incurred but the unions in this country have made it less expensive to ship the raw materials to foreign countries for production and ship the finished product back. That's particularly true of clothing, check your labels. Quite a few of mine say, assembled in xxxx of material made in the US. Putting new tariffs on imports isn't going to help anyone. In fact history shows us the opposite is true. I recommend Goggling the "The Smoot–Hawley Tariff Act of 1930" if you are really interested in facts, not opinions.
“And if the republicans are good at one thing, it's rapidly whipping low-information voters up into a frenzy. Obama, and healthcare specifically for example I've seen framed as both Communist and Nazi by low information dopes in town hall meetings. Of course, these two things are polar opposites on the political spectrum, but I guess Obama is somehow... Both??”
Boy, aren’t you all over the place with your rambling. Again you have not supported your comments with any factual information. Do you even know anyone who participated in a town hall meeting? Or are you repeating what’ve heard or seen on TV? Again I don’t have the data at my finger tips but I could find it very easily as could you if you want to. That data will show that participants in the Town Halls this summer were documented to be highly informed on the health care debate. They just disagree with your point of view so they must be misinformed.
“Palin is basically everything we've done to bring the middle class to it's knees in the last 30 years, only more so. President? Book my flight to Europe.”
All I can say to this is you may want to review recent US history. Democrats, specifically, liberal democrats have controlled the Congress for the most of the last 45 years. Remember all money bills must originate in the House of Representatives per the US Constitution. Congress holds the purse strings and because of that they control the direction the country moves.
I’m sorry you feel the need to move to another country in order to pursue your “life, liberty and the pursuit of happiness.” Me, I’m working to change things here. That being said, if you want to continue with this discussion, please start a new thread with facts not opinion. If not, let's go back to the topic of President Palin. Lisa